Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk 4K UHD 60p/3D (2016) - Page 20 - Blu-ray Forum

HeatEquation · 02-17-2017, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

It doesn't work for a lot of visual effects heavy films. The HFR makes everything look fake or at least faker... as if you're watching a behind the scenes documentary.

Film is not real life, it's surrealism.

I one sentence you say that it looks fake. In another you say that "film is not real life" as if to suggest that it looks too real.

Can't have it both ways.

FilmFreakosaurus · 02-17-2017, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HeatEquation

I one sentence you say that it looks fake. In another you say that "film is not real life" as if to suggest that it looks too real.

Can't have it both ways.

Sure you can. You want to hide the flaws, not shine a spotlight on them.

HeatEquation · 02-17-2017, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Sure you can. You want to hide the flaws, not shine a spotlight on them.

Let's go back to 480p then, and forget about 4K HDR. You could hardly see any flaws given the fuzzy nature of standard definition.

TM2-Megatron · 02-17-2017, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HeatEquation

I one sentence you say that it looks fake. In another you say that "film is not real life" as if to suggest that it looks too real.

Can't have it both ways.

What he means is that HFR exposes the artifice of the medium, and for most (myself included) that isn't desirable. Like any other filmmaking tool, HFR presumably has its place. But personally, I don't think it's appropriate for many genres, and certainly not for full run times.

To each their own, though. But like it or not, 60fps is nowhere near becoming the new standard for filmmaking. This title certainly won't convince many, as it's too much technological tour de force and not enough movie.

StingingVelvet · 02-17-2017, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by agoofykindasuperman

Just looks misleading to the average reader I suppose.

Video reviews like this always compare within the same format, so I don't think it's misleading at all. Some just have an incorrect understanding of how the reviews work.

HeatEquation · 02-17-2017, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TM2-Megatron

What he means is that HFR exposes the artifice of the medium, and for most (myself included) that isn't desirable. Like any other filmmaking tool, HFR presumably has its place. But personally, I don't think it's appropriate for many genres, and certainly not for full run times.

To each their own, though. But like it or not, 60fps is nowhere near becoming the new standard for filmmaking. This title certainly won't convince many, as it's too much technological tour de force and not enough movie.

Higher resolution and HDR can expose flaws as well. Perhaps filmmakers should improve their craft to deal with any progress in technology that has the potential to expose any flaws in their work.

Atomic4877 · 02-18-2017, 01:43 PM

I have heard great things about the UHD on this film, so much that I purchased a copy of it yesterday with the Target B2G1 deal. I am hoping it lives up to the hype. I am not expecting a whole lot from the movie itself though, especially at 60 fps.

RockyIII · 02-18-2017, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Atomic4877

I have heard great things about the UHD on this film, so much that I purchased a copy of it yesterday with the Target B2G1 deal. I am hoping it lives up to the hype. I am not expecting a whole lot from the movie itself though, especially at 60 fps.

60fps is apt more immersive than 24fps

rockaway1836 · 02-18-2017, 02:57 PM

My son, his girl friend, my nephew and his buddy were all over last night watching this. They all liked it very much.

I found it to be funny, sad, intense at times, and thought provoking.

Everyone here enjoyed the HFR too.

RockyIII · 02-18-2017, 03:45 PM

If only this movie was not so sappy and depressing...

RockyIII · 02-18-2017, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Sure you can. You want to hide the flaws, not shine a spotlight on them.

I enjoy the flaws,,,It feels like being on set during shooting

Bmoney003 · 02-18-2017, 04:03 PM

hated the HFR....felt like i was ON SET watching them film it...the picture quality was the best i have ever seen...but the HFR made it unwatchale...i wont re-watch

RockyIII · 02-18-2017, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmoney003

hated the HFR....felt like i was ON SET watching them film it...the picture quality was the best i have ever seen...but the HFR made it unwatchale...i wont re-watch

I love HFR. I never experienced it other than by artificially enabling motion interpolation on my TV. Wish I wouldnt have missed the Hobbit in HFR when it first came out

Opips3 · 02-18-2017, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmoney003

hated the HFR....felt like i was ON SET watching them film it...the picture quality was the best i have ever seen...but the HFR made it unwatchale...i wont re-watch

I understand what you feel...uncomfort, dizzy and unrealized.

Why you are hated the HFR? Reason?...

DJJez · 02-18-2017, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmoney003

hated the HFR....felt like i was ON SET watching them film it...the picture quality was the best i have ever seen...but the HFR made it unwatchale...i wont re-watch

i totally agree. i absolutley hate the 60p frame rate. yes the detail is nice but it looks awful. i know its intended but it doesnt look/feel like a movie. the soap opera effect is just too much/unnatural

i will never buy 60p again!

rroeder · 02-18-2017, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyIII

I love HFR. I never experienced it other than by artificially enabling motion interpolation on my TV. Wish I wouldnt have missed the Hobbit in HFR when it first came out

I saw the first one in 3D HFR, it was interesting felt like a video game more than a movie.

Will my SDR 4k TV play in 60fps?

nugget2016 · 02-18-2017, 04:32 PM

meh. no thanks! i hate hfr so much. watched captain america civil war 3d on my samsung tv which doesnt play 3d in 24p. horrible soap opera effect on 3d films makes it horrid. watching cap made me feel sick with disgust. 24p any day

HeatEquation · 02-18-2017, 04:34 PM

Hold on. People feel dizzy and uncomfortable with smooth 60p but not with jittery 24p? I don't feel dizzy with either, but smooth and fluid motion making you dizzy as opposed to jittery camera work seems backwards.

RockyIII · 02-18-2017, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJez

i totally agree. i absolutley hate the 60p frame rate. yes the detail is nice but it looks awful. i know its intended but it doesnt look/feel like a movie. the soap opera effect is just too much/unnatural

i will never buy 60p again!

I will. and I hope all movies will finally be re;eased in 60fps as teh new standard...about time

RockyIII · 02-18-2017, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rroeder

I saw the first one in 3D HFR, it was interesting felt like a video game more than a movie.

Will my SDR 4k TV play in 60fps?

This is what movies have been looking like in 24fps...Time for a change...

02-18-2017, 01:43 PM	#387
Atomic4877 Active Member Member since:Feb 2017 Trading Score:62	I have heard great things about the UHD on this film, so much that I purchased a copy of it yesterday with the Target B2G1 deal. I am hoping it lives up to the hype. I am not expecting a whole lot from the movie itself though, especially at 60 fps.

02-18-2017, 02:57 PM	#389
rockaway1836 Member Member since:Sep 2006	My son, his girl friend, my nephew and his buddy were all over last night watching this. They all liked it very much. I found it to be funny, sad, intense at times, and thought provoking. Everyone here enjoyed the HFR too.

02-18-2017, 03:45 PM	#390
RockyIII Blu-ray Baron Member since:Feb 2016 Location:Miami, Fl Trading Score:25	If only this movie was not so sappy and depressing...

02-18-2017, 04:03 PM	#392
Bmoney003 Expert Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Nov 2012 Location:No. providence, RI Home Theater Gallery:28 Blu-ray collection:480 Digital collection:2 Trading Score:179	hated the HFR....felt like i was ON SET watching them film it...the picture quality was the best i have ever seen...but the HFR made it unwatchale...i wont re-watch

02-18-2017, 04:32 PM	#397
nugget2016 Active Member Member since:Feb 2016	meh. no thanks! i hate hfr so much. watched captain america civil war 3d on my samsung tv which doesnt play 3d in 24p. horrible soap opera effect on 3d films makes it horrid. watching cap made me feel sick with disgust. 24p any day

02-18-2017, 04:34 PM	#398
HeatEquation Banned Member since:Jan 2017	Hold on. People feel dizzy and uncomfortable with smooth 60p but not with jittery 24p? I don't feel dizzy with either, but smooth and fluid motion making you dizzy as opposed to jittery camera work seems backwards.

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