The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread

[SeaFox]

Originally Posted by professorwho

^ I see. Well, I’ll just assume that “A Sister’s All You Need” had badly timed voice acting in the first place...

I was going to say, isn't that the show that was rife with production problems? Then I remembered that was "My Sister, My Writer". All these darn not-incest shows it's hard to keep it all straight.

[klasma]

Originally Posted by Naiera

I have a BDP-103 and noticed nothing wrong with ASAYN. Except for the soft video, but I figured that was source-related.

I have never noticed audio-sync issues with FUNi discs on either of the Oppo Blu-ray players I've had.

Look at he beginning of episode 2. The audio is way too early there relative to the mouth flaps. Then after the OP it's okay again. Now the funny thing that I just noticed: When I rewind within the beginning and then play again, the lip-sync seems to be correct. Then when I skip back to the chapter break, it's off again like at the start. E.g. Itsuki's initial "chigau" is off at first, but after rewinding back over it it's okay, but when skipping back over it it's off again. So maybe this is player-related after all (apologies to PW), just on a chapter-by-chapter basis. (Rewinding in the A-part chapter doesn't change anything.)

[klasma]

Originally Posted by chronoclast

I think the 103 is legacy now and won't have anymore firmware updates.

That's for certain. I'm curious whether the 203 has the same issues though. I just wish there was another BD player model as silent as the Oppo and with subtitle shift (and ideally multi-region capable).

[Gouki]

203 here, it's only every Funi release, so I'm prepared with my finger on the gear button. Just have to figure out if it's speed up or slow down, depending on title and sometimes episode, or, like you said, chapter stops.

Oh, Funi....

(And it's only their discs, so I place the blame on them, as this doesn't happen with any other publisher. (So far.))

[slerch666]

I haven't seen it in the last 15 or so pages of the VQ thread but I received Please Teacher! today on BD. Anyone want screen shots?

I have the DVD somewhere but I am positive there is almost nothing they could have done to the HD version to make it not be better (I don't recall the DVD being BAD but if memory serves it was a composite source). I can do comparisons on Monday if someone wants that too.

[professorwho]

I’d be down for some screenshots.

[slerch666]

Here's 9 stills I pulled out of Please Teacher!
May go back and get some DVD shots but not sure I need to. This looks pretty good.

1080i.


https://ibb.co/C6mGGT6

[Nostalgic Twilight]

Since my old Maison Ikkoku comparisons were deleted when screenshotcomparisons.com purged their database, I decided to create a few brand new ones using the final episode. I did my best to avoid spoilers and tagged the one I felt crossed the line.

Shot 1
Shot 2
Shot 3
Shot 4 (spoiler)
Shot 5

The amount of black crush in the Viz DVD is astounding for the fifth shot, and I made sure the frames were as close as possible.

Bitrate analysis of the entire final JP BD disc:



Imgur album.

[jd213]

Originally Posted by slerch666

Here's 9 stills I pulled out of Please Teacher!
May go back and get some DVD shots but not sure I need to. This looks pretty good.

1080i.


https://ibb.co/C6mGGT6

1080i? The JP BDs are 1080p24, and I don't think there were any 30fps sequences throughout the series, so 1080i would be a downgrade.

[slerch666]

I went according to the box details. I'll drop the disc in and see what's on disc in a bit.

[Naiera]

Originally Posted by jd213

... so 1080i would be a downgrade.

Should still be an upgrade from the DVDs though.

[slerch666]

Originally Posted by Naiera

Should still be an upgrade from the DVDs though.

That is not a question. Definitely poohs all over the DVD. I may do a comparison set tomorrow for it.

[Naiera]

Are you sure it's not MY Please Teacher you received, btw?

[chronoclast]

If Please Teacher was produced entirely at 24fps, it's not a question of being an upgrade or downgrade, just that Nozomi should've handled their release a little better. The licensor sent interlaced materials of which Nozomi in turn should've inverse telecine to make it progressive. Leaving it interlaced means unnecessary de-interlacing and pulldown judder.

I'm not dumping on Nozomi's release at all as it sounds like it was encoded well. They just could've done a bit more for it.

[Naiera]

Originally Posted by chronoclast

... it's not a question of being an upgrade or downgrade ...

Of course it is. If the US release is better than the DVDs, it's an upgrade.

I'm not saying it's great that it's 1080i when it should be 1080p24. That's some dumb shit, but the 1080i release can still be much better than the DVDs, as well as very, very cheap and haz subs.

[slerch666]

Originally Posted by Naiera

Are you sure it's not MY Please Teacher you received, btw?

Yes.

Because YOUR Please Teacher is sitting unopened on top of the other BD you ordered... and the other, other BD you ordered.

[Naiera]

[slerch666]

Making MKV of the DVD and BD now. Will do a comparison shot set.

Will run BDInfo, grab captures, and report on bit rate once it's all ready.

For Please! I mean.

[slerch666]

Originally Posted by chronoclast

I'm not dumping on Nozomi's release at all as it sounds like it was encoded well. They just could've done a bit more for it.

Do we know for a fact the JP BD is actually 1080p and 24 fps? This was a digitally animated/painted show so it's possible it's actually a 30i source?

I don't know which is why I asking. Looking at the Amazon JP and CDJ listing I don't see anything about video quality on them unfortunately and not sure where else to check for reliable information. Or sort of official and reliable info.

Actually, we have the same video format as the Japanese release according to this:

https://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/472683.html

And according to the main page for Please Twins, that was definitely 1080i:

http://www.please10th-anniv.com/

[slerch666]

Here's the info and comparisons for Please Teacher.

According to AV Watch and Please! 10 Year Anniversary website, the JP BDs are 1080i. The US BD from Nozomi (Rightstuf) has kept this same format.


Bitrate Viewer for the first video file:




Screen Shot Comparison (not exactly composed as I had to crop the black bars from the BD image to 1440x1080, then resized to 1440x960 poorly. DVD exported at 1440x960 PNG bilinear scaling):

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/131919

Disc Info

[Show spoiler]DISC INFO:

Disc Title: Please Teacher BD1
Disc Label: PLEASETEACHERBD1
Disc Size: 49,839,459,104 bytes
Protection: AACS
BDInfo: 0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00004.MPLS
Length: 0:22:59.077 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 0 bytes
Total Bitrate: 0.00 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080i / 29.970 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
LPCM Audio Japanese 1536 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1536 kbps / 16-bit
LPCM Audio English 1536 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1536 kbps / 16-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics English 0.000 kbps