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ReduxInflux · 10-31-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by greekjgg

Watch how many 720p TV's will fly off the shelf this xmas and this $199 DuD will be the perfect compliment for it. THey don't need the 1080P, so the units may sell????

sure...but when it comes time for them to start buying movies...they'll be at a severe disadvantage. especially when they realize Disney only releases on Blu-ray. a lot of those cheap players will be returned or exchanged...or supplemented with a Blu-ray player purchase. the cheap ones may sell...but again...i really think this helps out Blu-ray because it gets the general public to step out of ignorance and through the door into HD. cheap hd dvd players will serve as the tunnel leading toward the Blu party room. and that's that.

CptGreedle · 10-31-2007, 02:06 PM

I know the price of these is an issue for us, but a player that has no support is still worthless. The BDA knows about this and WILL take action in time for the shopping season. Either WB will get involved, or there will be new lower prices for BD players on the shelves soon.
Just calm down and wait, they will not take this sitting down.

BLackie · 10-31-2007, 02:07 PM

I went to walmart 4 days ago and saw bout 8 of them, went back last night and they told me that they sold out and have more on order.....

mdm1699 · 10-31-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by greekjgg

He may have a point with these $199 players. I worked at Best Buy when we got our FIRST DVD display. The units cost about $300 to $1000 at that time.

The following xmas they were under the $200 mark and everyone was buying a modulator so they could watch them. I would get into demo after demo and tell people that your missing the point of DVD if your hooking it up through a modulator and don't have surround sound. At that point it was a fancy VCR that couldn't record.

People would care less and buy the DVD player anyway. THe 95% of the market that hasn't chosen a format yet are not philes like the bulk of us and will not always make a "proper" decision that is thought out. Case in point, my husband wants a dvd player for xmas. But they hook it up through the coax with a modulator?????

Watch how many 720p TV's will fly off the shelf this xmas and this $199 DuD will be the perfect compliment for it. THey don't need the 1080P, so the units may sell????

Hey sir you can have this for just $199 to got with that tv.
What's the catch? (reflex)
No catch sir. It's on sale.
Well, how about THAT other one? (suspicious)
Well, those are not on sale sir and you don't need them for that tv.
Are you saying the tv is junk? (Angry)
Hummm!
Take everything back. See you next year

Xerious · 10-31-2007, 02:08 PM

and no one seems to care that it's also an A2... it's already obsolete, hence the low low price of crap.

mystiksuicide · 10-31-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Leaf

now that sub $199 hd dvd players are flying off shelves what are blu-ray doing to counter it? if they wait to see if this have an impact on software sales it might already be too late.

We have that at BB and so far the are NOT flying of the shelves. But they are collecting dust.

Most consumers are now better educated and are aware of blu's superiority, thats not to say that there are not people who are totally ignorant and will pick up a cheap player. But also take into account the massive blu displays in BB and Target. That also has a huge influence.

Xerious · 10-31-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mdm1699

Hey sir you can have this for just $199 to got with that tv.
What's the catch? (reflex)
No catch sir. It's on sale.
Well, how about THAT other one? (suspicious)
Well, those are not on sale sir and you don't need them for that tv.
Are you saying the tv is junk? (Angry)
Hummm!
Take everything back. See you next year

lol... unfortunately, most people at who buy electronics at walmart don't care for the best (else why would they be there). they care for cheap and they know cheap doesn't equal the best. so, hd dvd has a great place at walmart... cheap and second best

tqlla · 10-31-2007, 02:13 PM

I did buy one of those players from Circuit City, with a $40 off coupon... but even with that, I am still considering returning it.

I am really starting to think this is their final do or Die attack.

SS316SRV · 10-31-2007, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tqlla

I did buy one of those players from Circuit City, with a $40 off coupon... but even with that, I am still considering returning it.

I am really starting to think this is their final do or Die attack.

You could have put that $160 in a 50 gallon drum and lit it on fire. It would have been just as productive.

thrlride · 10-31-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ReduxInflux

sure...but when it comes time for them to start buying movies...they'll be at a severe disadvantage. especially when they realize Disney only releases on Blu-ray. a lot of those cheap players will be returned or exchanged...or supplemented with a Blu-ray player purchase. the cheap ones may sell...but again...i really think this helps out Blu-ray because it gets the general public to step out of ignorance and through the door into HD. cheap hd dvd players will serve as the tunnel leading toward the Blu party room. and that's that.

It goes both ways. They may want films by paramount/dreamworks/universal.

mdm1699 · 10-31-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Xerious

lol... unfortunately, most people at who buy electronics at walmart don't care for the best (else why would they be there). they care for cheap and they know cheap doesn't equal the best. so, hd dvd has a great place at walmart... cheap and second best

I am not sure why everyone assumes that people are waiting around to buy this at Walmart. If CC, Amazon, or etc isn't sold out at that price point then it is much ado about nothing.

Xerious · 10-31-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by thrlride

It goes both ways. They may want films by paramount/dreamworks/universal.

:: meh ::

still missing out on disney, who, bar none is the biggest player in this game.

Razzy · 10-31-2007, 02:20 PM

I guess it won't be long untill Toshiba has a BOGO of it's own. By one HD DUD player get 1 free.

radagast · 10-31-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Leaf

you think joe wallmart cares? and as long as disney is on regular dvd as well he'll care even less.

IF that's the case, then they can just buy a regular DVD player for even LESS.

SS316SRV · 10-31-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Xerious

want some cheese with that whine?

i concede

I am from WI...of course I want some cheese!!!

So, last week my brother bought the 360 Addon and got the garbage bag filled with HD DVDs. Last night I text messaged him:

"Just bought the Spider-man Trilogy on Blu-ray. Are you gonna get it on HD DVD?"

The response I got:
"F U"

Xerious · 10-31-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mdm1699

I am not sure why everyone assumes that people are waiting around to buy this at Walmart. If CC, Amazon, or etc isn't sold out at that price point then it is much ado about nothing.

because hd-duders have this preception that they might have a chance.

and... for the record, if sony made an HD DVD player... i would buy it... i just don't like Toshiba... or any brands making them... oh wait, it's jut Toshiba

greekjgg · 10-31-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Xerious

lol... unfortunately, most people at who buy electronics at walmart don't care for the best (else why would they be there). they care for cheap and they know cheap doesn't equal the best. so, hd dvd has a great place at walmart... cheap and second best

This is exactly my point.

The year the sub $200 dvd players were flying off the shelf my accessory attachment was through the roof because of all the modulators I was selling with them.

The only returns after xmas we would get is the people who thought their player was defective because of the "black bars" across the top/bottom of the screen.

Xerious · 10-31-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SS316SRV

I am from WI...of course I want some cheese!!!

So, last week my brother bought the 360 Addon and got the garbage bag filled with HD DVDs. Last night I text messaged him:

"Just bought the Spider-man Trilogy on Blu-ray. Are you gonna get it on HD DVD?"

The response I got:
"F U"

classic.

radagast · 10-31-2007, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by greekjgg

Watch how many 720p TV's will fly off the shelf this xmas and this $199 DuD will be the perfect compliment for it. THey don't need the 1080P, so the units may sell????

And since this is an OOP model they will sell out and it will be done. So what?

mdm1699 · 10-31-2007, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by thrlride

It goes both ways. They may want films by paramount/dreamworks/universal.

Where are the megahits lined up from those vaulted catalogs? I don't see them on the hidefdigest.com lineup, nor have I heard them announced. You are fooling yourself if you think that Paramount/Universal/Dreamworks are going to discount their biggest Balance Sheet assets.

10-31-2007, 02:06 PM	#262
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	I know the price of these is an issue for us, but a player that has no support is still worthless. The BDA knows about this and WILL take action in time for the shopping season. Either WB will get involved, or there will be new lower prices for BD players on the shelves soon. Just calm down and wait, they will not take this sitting down.

10-31-2007, 02:07 PM	#263
BLackie Member Member since:Jan 2007	I went to walmart 4 days ago and saw bout 8 of them, went back last night and they told me that they sold out and have more on order.....

10-31-2007, 02:08 PM	#265
Xerious Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Washington, DC Blu-ray collection:238 Blu-ray reviews:4	and no one seems to care that it's also an A2... it's already obsolete, hence the low low price of crap.

10-31-2007, 02:13 PM	#268
tqlla Active Member Member since:Sep 2007	I did buy one of those players from Circuit City, with a $40 off coupon... but even with that, I am still considering returning it. I am really starting to think this is their final do or Die attack.

10-31-2007, 02:20 PM	#273
Razzy Special Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Canada Blu-ray collection:179 Blu-ray reviews:2	I guess it won't be long untill Toshiba has a BOGO of it's own. By one HD DUD player get 1 free.

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