Oh noes teh sky is falling!

[KRW1]

I might for very special movies. The Apocalypse Now's and 2001's and so forth but not for everything. Happy with my collection as it is, in a way I never was with DVD. You can project a bluray and it looks like a cinema screening which is all I ever wanted from this hobby.

(I do remember saying in 2007 that this HD thing would never take off, mind, so take that into account).

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by pixler

I bought a lot of movies of DVD and then Blu-Ray came along and I was sold on this technology so I started re-buying movies I once had on DVD so I can get them on Blu-Ray. Now we have 4K technology but I'm not buying into it, at least not yet. Blu-Ray is good enough for me. I'm not going to keep re-buying movies everytime a new technology comes out. I might upgrade later down the road but it's too soon for a new format to come out. Blu-Ray is still new, it hasn't been around for very long. Technology needs to slow down. I just hope 4K doesn't phase out Blu-Ray any time soon.

Does this really warrant a new thread?

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by pixler

INow we have 4K technology but I'm not buying into it, at least not yet. Blu-Ray is good enough for me.

That is understandable. Blu-ray is very good with high resolution video and lossless audio. I am a tech person and started with LaserDisc. Had several hundred LaserDisc that eventually got replaced with DVDs. Then many of the DVDs got replaced by D-VHS D-Theater who got replaced by Blu-rays.

Still have quite a few DVDs simply because there has not been a Blu-ray of the same title released. Same can be said of a handful of my D-Theater titles (True Lies, The Haunting, etc.)

I have no doubt that I will buy into UHDTV Blu-ray at some point but will be VERY selective in Blu-ray title replacement.

[AKORIS]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Does this really warrant a new thread?

why not?
it's just another thread to discuss stuff and that's why we're here right?

[Cbeck]

What kind of market will there even be for 4k discs when players are finally available? I would bet very little, not enough to make it worthwhile for studios to go through their catalogs and re release the same titles yet again. New releases sure, but even then I doubt it will take off. If many people didn't stream/download and still buy DVDs, I would say it would have some chance. But that isn't the case.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Does this really warrant a new thread?

IMO, no, it should be merged with this one here.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by AKORIS

why not?
it's just another thread to discuss stuff and that's why we're here right?

The 4k threads are full of people saying they will or won't be upgrading. Just seems like a redundant thread in that sense. No big deal, just my view.

[MisterXDTV]

Both the next-gen consoles won't support the new format so 4K via optical disc is already doomed... and Sony is the most active supporter of 4K.

Except Sony, all the other majors don't care about a new format and probably don't want another optical disc that is gonna be cracked in a few weeks by hackers so that everyone can download a 4K Master of their movies...

[Red Dragon]

I own over 1,800 DVDs...

My blu count is 1,200, but most of those are new films and television shows. In other words, I only 'upgraded' (repurchased titles on blu-ray that I already owned on DVD), about 20% (or roughly 350 to 360 titles). If 4K comes out, takes the world by storm and literally is the next big thing in the marketplace, I'll probably 'upgrade' about 10% of my blu-rays (if the quality and content warrant such action). So I figure I'll repurchase only about 150 films, at most. Newer additions will either be 4K, blu-ray or DVD depending on the circumstances surrounding each film. The rest of my original film library will remain either on DVD or blu-ray.

I can't speak for anyone else, but in my situation being a cinephile sometimes requires and certainly invites double and even triple dips with regard to film.

And just because i'm that much of an obsessive-compulsive zany cinephile ...here's a quick list of the first 106 films I'd most probably get in glorious 4K...

1.) "Blade Runner"

2.) "Apocalypse Now"

3.) "2001: A Space Odyssey"

4.) "A Clockwork Orange"

5.) "Full Metal Jacket"

6.) "The Godfather"

7.) "The Godfather: Part II"

8.) "Pulp Fiction"

9.) "Kill Bill Vol. I"

10.) "Kill Bill Vol. II"

11.) "Inglorious Basterds"

12.) "Django Unchained"

13.) "Sin City"

14.) "Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring"

15.) "Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers"

16.) "Lord of the Rings: Return of the King"

17.) "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey"

18.) "Jaws"

19.) "Schindler's List"

20.) "Saving Private Ryan"

21.) "Psycho"

22.) "Ghost in the Shell"

23.) "Grave of the Fireflies"

24.) "Akira"

25.) "Battle Royale"

26.) "Batman Begins"

27.) "The Dark Knight"

28.) "The Dark Knight Rises"

29.) "Watchmen"

30.) "Avalon"

31.) "Alien"

32.) "Aliens"

32.) "Alien 3"

33.) "Blackhawk Down"

34.) "Fight Club"

35.) "SE7EN"

36.) "Do the Right Thing"

37.) "Citizen Kane"

38.) "Face/Off"

39.) "Donnie Darko"

40.) "Gladiator"

41.) "Goodfellas"

42.) "Inception"

43.) "12 Monkeys"

42.) "Seven Samurai"

43.) "The Matrix"

44.) "The Matrix Reloaded"

45.) "The Matrix Revolutions"

46.) "The Terminator"

47.) "Terminator 2: Judgement Day"

48.) "Titanic"

49.) "13 Assassins"

50.) "To Live and Die in L.A."

51.) "Three Kings"

52.) "A Fist Full of Dollars"

53.) "For a Few Dollars More"

54.) "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly"

55.) "Moulin Rouge!"

56.) "Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance"

57.) "Oldboy"

58.) "Sympathy For Lady Vengeance"

59.) "Rashomon"

60.) "Sanjuro"

61.) "Unbreakable"

62.) "Versus"

63.) "The White Ribbon"

64.) "Funny Games" (Original)

65.) "Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me"

66.) "The Exorcist"

67.) "The Ninth Configuration"

68.) "Red Cliff: Part I"

69.) "Red Cliff: Part II"

70.) "Eraserhead"

71.) "The Shining"

72.) "Eyes Wide Shut"

73.) "Taxi Driver"

74.) "Lost Highway"

74.) "Mulhulland Dr."

75.) "Blue Velvet"

76.) "Reservoir Dogs"

77.) "Revolver"

78.) "A Scanner Darkly"

79.) "Salo -or- The 120 Days of Sodom"

80.) "Brotherhood of the Wolf"

81.) "The Killer"

82.) "Strange Days"

83.) "City of God"

84.) "Antichrist"

85.) "Melancholia"

86.) "Metropolis"

87.) "M"

88.) "Triumph of the Will"

89.) "Martyrs"

90.) "American Beauty"

91.) "Lawrence of Arabia"

92.) "Frankenstein"

93.) "Bride of Frankenstein"

94.) "King Kong" (original)

95.) "King Kong" (Peter Jackson)

96.) "Thirst"

97.) "Midnight Cowboy"

98.) "The Thing" (John Carpenter)

99.) "The Fly" (David Cronenberg)

100.) "Harold and Maude"

101.) "The Gold Rush"

102.) "City Lights"

103.) "The Great Dictator"

104.) "Chungking Express"

105.) "Godzilla/Gojira" (original)

106.) "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas"

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

Both the next-gen consoles won't support the new format so 4K via optical disc is already doomed... and Sony is the most active supporter of 4K.

Except Sony, all the other majors don't care about a new format and probably don't want another optical disc that is gonna be cracked in a few weeks by hackers so that everyone can download a 4K Master of their movies...

You know this for a fact?

[AKORIS]

I'm more excited about upgraded technology that will make my existing blu rays look better!

[RyanPom]

I'm done at blu ray too, and I don't support streaming movies at all. I don't want my collection to be in some server somewhere.

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

You know this for a fact?

the first part yes, PS4 and XBOX One have a normal blu-ray player.

The second part is speculation, but i don't think I heard any other major talking about 4K movies on optical discs and they want to stop piracy and/or copying in any way possible...

[mredman]

Originally Posted by RyanPom

I'm done at blu ray too, and I don't support streaming movies at all. I don't want my collection to be in some server somewhere.

^THIS. Blu ray is the last format i will buy and it looks glorious even on 120 inch screen

[mahgin86]

It took me a while to get into Blu-ray, but when I did, I plunged. Never bought so much of any type of media before, and likely I won't again. I take pride in my collection, even. It's sad to me the number of people I know with big HDTVs, but still with basic SD cable and dvd players (hooked up via RCA cables, not even upconverting). They don't know what they're missing.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by mayday72

+1
I believe this to be true as well. My nephew & my gf's kids have shown me that their generation has NO interest in collecting physical media. They are all quite content to let the internet store their movies & music. It doesn't seem to matter to them that streaming is subject to studio whims. Or that if VUDU or Zune go bust they lose their purchases. Funny thing is my nephew about lost his mind when our net went down for a few days. I just laughed at him as I happily passed the time with my physical media.

And that's the problem... extreme short sightedness on the part of the younger generation. They've more or less grown up with it, but it is still relatively young itself. They don't think about how they will be effected when streaming options are removed or when a service that they bought digital content through goes belly-up because it hasn't happened in a major way to them yet, and they won't make an issue of it until it happens. But even then they'll just move on to the next digital service and keep making the same mistakes again and again because that's just how stupid today's kids are.

I also agree with the OP that technology keeps moving too fast. And I think it's going to bite these companies in the ass. At some point PQ is going to essentially max out to a point where the quality can't get any better for the size of screens most people have in their homes (we've already maxed out audio with lossless). And to take advantage of it, the studios need to do a better job on average with their remasters anyway. What will these companies do once things get to a point where they can't get any better? There won't be much to sell us then!

[Canada]

I can see myself going for downloads maybe the generation after the next on but our internet in North America is pitiful next to practically every other place in the world.

[Insomniac01]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

And that's the problem... extreme short sidedness on the part of the younger generation. They've more or less grown up with it, but it is still relatively young itself. They don't think about how they will be effected when streaming options are removed or when a service that they bought digital content through goes belly-up because it hasn't happened in a major way to them yet, and they won't make an issue of it until it happens. But even then they'll just move on to the next digital service and keep making the same mistakes again and again because that's just how stupid today's kids are.

I also agree with the OP that technology keeps moving too fast. And I think it's going to bite these companies in the ass. At some point PQ is going to essentially max out to a point where the quality can't get any better for the size of screens most people have in their homes (we've already maxed out audio with lossless). And to take advatage of it, the studios need to do a better job on average with their remasters anyway. What will these companies do once things get to a point where they can't get any better? There won't be much to sell us then!

Such amazing presumptions you are able to make. Sadly for you they are nothing more then presumptions.

Originally Posted by pixler

I bought a lot of movies of DVD and then Blu-Ray came along and I was sold on this technology so I started re-buying movies I once had on DVD so I can get them on Blu-Ray. Now we have 4K technology but I'm not buying into it, at least not yet. Blu-Ray is good enough for me. I'm not going to keep re-buying movies everytime a new technology comes out. I might upgrade later down the road but it's too soon for a new format to come out. Blu-Ray is still new, it hasn't been around for very long. Technology needs to slow down. I just hope 4K doesn't phase out Blu-Ray any time soon.

This is the same thing countless people said about dvd. I will be with the best quality format that is consumer friendly. For now that is blu-ray, but that will change.

[macfan]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

And that's the problem... extreme short sidedness on the part of the younger generation. They've more or less grown up with it, but it is still relatively young itself. They don't think about how they will be effected when streaming options are removed or when a service that they bought digital content through goes belly-up because it hasn't happened in a major way to them yet, and they won't make an issue of it until it happens. But even then they'll just move on to the next digital service and keep making the same mistakes again and again because that's just how stupid today's kids are.

I also agree with the OP that technology keeps moving too fast. And I think it's going to bite these companies in the ass. At some point PQ is going to essentially max out to a point where the quality can't get any better for the size of screens most people have in their homes (we've already maxed out audio with lossless). And to take advatage of it, the studios need to do a better job on average with their remasters anyway. What will these companies do once things get to a point where they can't get any better? There won't be much to sell us then!

+1

As a retired teacher I can tell you I saw this all the time among my students. Now that education in the US has become nothing more than teaching to the test students don't know how to think for them selves. They can parrot back memorized answers to a standardized test but have no idea how to apply any of what passes today for knowledge. Our government is educating today's students to become following sheep. Trust me big business is just salivating at this as are political parties. This is also why today's young people go crazy if they aren't fiddling with their cell phone or have ear buds jammed in their ears. They have to be stimulated. They can't sit still for 5 minutes. Reading a good book would kill them.

[Insomniac01]

Originally Posted by macfan

+1

As a retired teacher I can tell you I saw this all the time among my students. Now that education in the US has become nothing more than teaching to the test students don't know how to think for them selves. They can parrot back memorized answers to a standardized test but have no idea how to apply any of what passes today for knowledge. Our government is educating today's students to become following sheep. Trust me big business is just salivating at this as are political parties. This is also why today's young people go crazy if they aren't fiddling with their cell phone or have ear buds jammed in their ears. They have to be stimulated. They can't sit still for 5 minutes. Reading a good book would kill them.

I'm sorry the government isn't the one responsible, if this is indeed the case the teachers are responsible as they are failing at there job. Anyway lets get this way back on topic.

How many people have seen a film at 4k in its entirety? I have and I must say, it is impressive. I doubt I will be as early of an adopter as I was blu-ray, but none the less 4k is something I am eagerly awaiting.