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Old 02-06-2014, 07:52 PM   #6141
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I like the library feel of having things on the shelf. It's nice to look over the shelves and then pick something to watch. It feels better to me than browsing a file folder, like I do for my music since I went all MP3 on that. Could be my age, I won't deny that.

Honestly though I mostly favor blu ray and DVD so I actually own the shows and movies, as I am a big hater of DRM and anti-consumer policies. Also I notice compression artifacts on downloads and streams VERY easily, they stand right out to me.

If you could download blu ray quality movies and shows with no DRM on them I would consider switching to digital, but I don't see that ever happening.
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Old 02-06-2014, 07:56 PM   #6142
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I like the library feel of having things on the shelf. It's nice to look over the shelves and then pick something to watch. It feels better to me than browsing a file folder, like I do for my music since I went all MP3 on that. Could be my age, I won't deny that.

Honestly though I mostly favor blu ray and DVD so I actually own the shows and movies, as I am a big hater of DRM and anti-consumer policies. Also I notice compression artifacts on downloads and streams VERY easily, they stand right out to me.

If you could download blu ray quality movies and shows with no DRM on them I would consider switching to digital, but I don't see that ever happening.
That is coming eventually, but it will likely take years or longer. You can also bet that they will be drenched in DRM. The studios want you to invest in downloads/streaming so they can have direct control over their content. With physical media they don't. This is why the studios love Netflix, Hulu, and VUDU's services because they can charge these companies whatever they see fit for their content.
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Old 02-06-2014, 08:04 PM   #6143
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That is coming eventually, but it will likely take years or longer. You can also bet that they will be drenched in DRM. The studios want you to invest in downloads/streaming so they can have direct control over their content. With physical media they don't. This is why the studios love Netflix, Hulu, and VUDU's services because they can charge these companies whatever they see fit for their content.
Well that's why I said no DRM, and that's why I think it would never happen.
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Old 02-06-2014, 08:05 PM   #6144
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Well that's why I said no DRM, and that's why I think it would never happen.
Yep, greed has always been present in human history wherever you look and chances are it always will be.
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Old 02-06-2014, 08:10 PM   #6145
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Yep, greed has always been present in human history wherever you look and chances are it always will be.
Preservation is going to become a huge issue in the future.
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Old 02-06-2014, 08:33 PM   #6146
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Preservation is going to become a huge issue in the future.
Yes, it is. If the studios are smart they will store everything digitally and back it up several times on top of the original negatives (for actual film).
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Old 02-06-2014, 08:44 PM   #6147
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Yeah in my opinion, physical media will always be better than streaming / digital.

I've used this example countless times but to me it will always be my personal reason for hating the whole streaming fad: Netflix used to have every episode of Rugrats available for streaming, which is great because Rugrats is one of my favorite childhood cartoons that still holds up today and can be enjoyed (possibly) even more than when I was a kid... the first three seasons, anyway.

For *whatever* reason, Netflix removed the first three seasons and just left the s***ty seasons on there. I can see no reason for this, because it's not like Nickelodeon was releasing DVDs at the time and asked Netflix to take those episodes off as incentive to buy the DVDs. It just really irked me because I DO know a way to record off of Netflix to make my own DVDs which would've come in really handy here, because Amazon's Rugrats season 2 DVD is missing the last half of the episodes.

Amazon Prime streaming has them, which is great, until they decide to take them off too.

So because of this insignificant (to most people) situation, I will always bear a little bit of a grudge against the whole streaming thing. It would be one thing if we could purchase the movies / shows, download them, and then copy them to our own Blu-ray Discs / DVDs, but somehow I don't see that happening.
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Old 02-06-2014, 08:48 PM   #6148
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The very fact that no digital download or streaming looks as good as blu ray should be enough.

Also, I love being able to just look and see every movie that I own. Especially when it comes to tv shows, a lot of which have very nice and unique packaging which is just special in itself. And knowing that whether some random service over the internet shuts down or not, all my movies will still work, regardless, that is nice.
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Old 02-06-2014, 08:49 PM   #6149
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I have threads from this forum automatically hard copy printed and mailed to me. That's how much I hate streaming and clouds.

-Brian

ps. I love the discs but my kids watch my iTunes and vudu copies, my neighbor is on my vudu account so she watches my movies over at her place, my wife loves amazon prime instant videos of dumb tv shows like covert affairs. So,.. some people (kids and women apparently) just like streaming better. What I have to wonder is when you have a house full of people all trying to stream something different in HD what happens then?... Does everyone's version dumb down to crap-o-vision?..
Proof that women and children like terrible things.
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Old 02-06-2014, 08:52 PM   #6150
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Proof that women and children like terrible things.
Translation: No woman wants to get with me so I have projected this rejection into an unhealthy misogynistic attitude towards them, and the fallopian filth they call offspring.
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:08 PM   #6151
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Lets get physical!

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Old 02-06-2014, 09:15 PM   #6152
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Translation: No woman wants to get with me so I have projected this rejection into an unhealthy misogynistic attitude towards them, and the fallopian filth they call offspring.
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:16 PM   #6153
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Great post. I love Netflix just as much to watch a movie to see if I want to go get it on Blu, watching documentaries, classic TV shows etc. Went to show my Dad Beer Wars a few weeks ago and "poof" it was no longer on my Canadian version of Netflix. Knightrider recently disappeared too. The headaches my wife has with her iTunes makes me very wary of having to use a portal like that for my video library.


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Yeah in my opinion, physical media will always be better than streaming / digital.

I've used this example countless times but to me it will always be my personal reason for hating the whole streaming fad: Netflix used to have every episode of Rugrats available for streaming, which is great because Rugrats is one of my favorite childhood cartoons that still holds up today and can be enjoyed (possibly) even more than when I was a kid... the first three seasons, anyway.

For *whatever* reason, Netflix removed the first three seasons and just left the s***ty seasons on there. I can see no reason for this, because it's not like Nickelodeon was releasing DVDs at the time and asked Netflix to take those episodes off as incentive to buy the DVDs. It just really irked me because I DO know a way to record off of Netflix to make my own DVDs which would've come in really handy here, because Amazon's Rugrats season 2 DVD is missing the last half of the episodes.

Amazon Prime streaming has them, which is great, until they decide to take them off too.

So because of this insignificant (to most people) situation, I will always bear a little bit of a grudge against the whole streaming thing. It would be one thing if we could purchase the movies / shows, download them, and then copy them to our own Blu-ray Discs / DVDs, but somehow I don't see that happening.
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:23 PM   #6154
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Translation: No woman wants to get with me so I have projected this rejection into an unhealthy misogynistic attitude towards them, and the fallopian filth they call offspring.
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:53 PM   #6155
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Great post. I love Netflix just as much to watch a movie to see if I want to go get it on Blu, watching documentaries, classic TV shows etc. Went to show my Dad Beer Wars a few weeks ago and "poof" it was no longer on my Canadian version of Netflix. Knightrider recently disappeared too. The headaches my wife has with her iTunes makes me very wary of having to use a portal like that for my video library.
You said THAT word. Begins with N ends with x.
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:53 PM   #6156
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I have threads from this forum automatically hard copy printed and mailed to me. That's how much I hate streaming and clouds.

-Brian

ps. I love the discs but my kids watch my iTunes and vudu copies, my neighbor is on my vudu account so she watches my movies over at her place, my wife loves amazon prime instant videos of dumb tv shows like covert affairs. So,.. some people (kids and women apparently) just like streaming better. What I have to wonder is when you have a house full of people all trying to stream something different in HD what happens then?... Does everyone's version dumb down to crap-o-vision?..
Then you're not doing your job to educate them on the evils of streaming and the greatness of physical media!
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:57 PM   #6157
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You said THAT word. Begins with N ends with x.
Streaming fans always believe their virtual movies will be around "forever".
And then the N-word happens.
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Old 02-06-2014, 10:00 PM   #6158
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Fixed that for you.

This thread makes me happy.
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Old 02-06-2014, 10:00 PM   #6159
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So are you asking if we have thought about going completely digital? If that's it, no, I haven't, but I'm doing both. Every movie and TV Show that I own on physical media, I've purchased again in iTunes. And once I replace a DVD, I do away with the DVD, but I keep Blu-Rays to keep my hard drives free of the space that HD content will take. Especially with iTunes in the Cloud, I can do that and know I can always re-download that content if I need to, or just stream through Apple TV.
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Old 02-06-2014, 10:31 PM   #6160
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So are you asking if we have thought about going completely digital? If that's it, no, I haven't, but I'm doing both. Every movie and TV Show that I own on physical media, I've purchased again in iTunes. And once I replace a DVD, I do away with the DVD, but I keep Blu-Rays to keep my hard drives free of the space that HD content will take. Especially with iTunes in the Cloud, I can do that and know I can always re-download that content if I need to, or just stream through Apple TV.
No space for both here. This is optical media sunshine.
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