Oh noes teh sky is falling!

[JasonHensley]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

I already explained myself regarding your argument. Why is it such a problem for physical media collectors to accept that some people are okay with streaming? Why is that so threatening to you? I could go on about why I think collecting is just another form of hoarding. I have been interacting on these forums for years and have seen such irrational consumer behavior. People buying multiple version of the same movie. People buying terrible films just because they were at a discounted price. An example was someone on this forum buying Lindsey Lohan's Labor Pains blu ray because it was three dollars. Adults buying special edition blu rays because they came with lunch boxes or action figures. We are conditioned to want to purchase things because we think it can fill holes in our lives that we don't know are there. That's why people can't stop buying things to add to their collections. Is owning thousands of movies really practical or even rational? Are you going to really watch all of those films again? I know many really respond with anger but I accept that. It's difficult to get unplugged from consumerism.

So someone who will pay for a digital movie collection that they have no control over are smarter than people who buy the physical version?

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

I could go on about why I think collecting is just another form of hoarding.

I just had to quote this to make sure you actually wrote it.

[42041]

Originally Posted by JasonHensley

So someone who will pay for a digital movie collection that they have no control over are smarter than people who buy the physical version?

I think both people are making decisions that they feel are reasonable for them.

[darkknightman]

Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

I just had to quote this to make sure you actually wrote it.

Care to elaborate? If you have a counter argument then state it. I am not attempting to be hostile towards you. There are several good documentaries on consumerism and buying habits and how society is constantly being programmed to desire things. Just look at the lunacy on Black Friday. Or individuals who stand in line for days to buy a new Iphone. Do you consider this to be productive or rational behavior? Is buying six copies of the same movie because of packaging or because it comes bundled with toys really the best use of someone's time and money? Does this type of behavior not cause collecting to cease to be about the movie itself?

[msb1428]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

Your blu ray is contingent on your electricity working. Do you worry about you power grid going down? The chance of losing electricity is much higher than losing your internet. If there is a problem with my connection I am sure I can find something else to do. When I talk about the stress that comes with owning things, this post is a prime example. And again,a physical media owner speaking about those who enjoy streaming in a condescending tone.

And I can say the same for you. You are doing the same exact thing that you are complaining about! a person able to access streaming media speaking to those who enjoy physical media in a condescending tone..LOL And my electricity goes out maybe once or twice a year while my "high speed" Comcast internet goes down about once a day..so you theory is bunk

[JasonHensley]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

Care to elaborate?

You can't differentiate between a true hoarder and someone who has a movie collection set up neatly.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

Your blu ray is contingent on your electricity working. Do you worry about you power grid going down? The chance of losing electricity is much higher than losing your internet. If there is a problem with my connection I am sure I can find something else to do. When I talk about the stress that comes with owning things, this post is a prime example. And again,a physical media owner speaking about those who enjoy streaming in a condescending tone.

That's odd because my internet has gone out much more often than I've ever lost power. I don't know who I should call and complain to, should I call the power company and tell them they're doing too good of a job with keeping the power on or should I contact my ISP and let them know that they're performing much worse than my power company?

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

Care to elaborate? If you have a counter argument then state it. I am not attempting to be hostile towards you. There are several good documentaries on consumerism and buying habits and how society is constantly being programmed to desire things. Just look at the lunacy on Black Friday. Or individuals who stand in line for days to buy a new Iphone. Do you consider this to be productive or rational behavior? Is buying six copies of the same movie because of packaging or because it comes bundled with toys really the best use of someone's time and money? Does this type of behavior not cause collecting to cease to be about the movie itself?

I think it's a person's own business how and when they spend their money.

And I think it's ridiculous to equate collecting with hoarding.

My dad used to collect baseball cards. I guess he was a hoarder too.

[darkknightman]

Originally Posted by msb1428

And I can say the same for you. You are doing the same exact thing that you are complaining about! a person able to access streaming media speaking to those who enjoy physical media in a condescending tone..LOL And my electricity goes out maybe once or twice a year while my "high speed" Comcast internet goes down about once a day..so you theory is bunk

Your internet goes down once a day? Really? Time to change providers.

[darkknightman]

Originally Posted by JasonHensley

You can't differentiate between a true hoarder and someone who has a movie collection set up neatly.

Why do you think hoarding is just about disorganization and junk? Try getting rid of all of your blu rays. Can you do it? Will it cause you stress? Is your collection huge in number?

[42041]

Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

And I think it's ridiculous to equate collecting with hoarding.

I wouldn't equate the two, but there's overlap between collecting and compulsive behavior. My dad used to have a collection of thousands of films that grew far faster than he watched them - he was kind of borderline OCD and felt this urge towards some idea of completeness. And I see this kind of irrational collecting on these forums regularly.

[JasonHensley]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

Why do you think hoarding is just about disorganization and junk? Try getting rid of all of your blu rays. Can you do it? Will it cause your stress? Is your collection huge in number?

I sold off my entire collection 3 years ago when I hit a very rough patch in my career and was going through a divorce. Luckily, it was a very big collection and I was able to get enough money to get my finances in order without filing for bankruptcy. I've started rebuilding my collection and am thankful that that happened to me simply because I had many movies I had bought when I was younger and had no interest in anymore. If it was a digital collection it would have been worthless.

[msb1428]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

Your internet goes down once a day? Really? Time to change providers.

Actually if you really knew anything, most peoples internets go down once a day or every other day. most just never realize it because it could be for very short periods. its mainly done for system updates and grid realignments and such.

[darkknightman]

Originally Posted by msb1428

And I can say the same for you. You are doing the same exact thing that you are complaining about! a person able to access streaming media speaking to those who enjoy physical media in a condescending tone..LOL And my electricity goes out maybe once or twice a year while my "high speed" Comcast internet goes down about once a day..so you theory is bunk

I am not using a condescending tone. I am simply pointing out consumer behavior. Again, if you are so compelled, watch some documentaries on consumerism. It's eye opening. I am just trying to challenge people to think differently and unplug from blind consumerism. You really should not take offense. I enjoy movies just as much as the next person. But every time I mention that I am enjoying streaming more than physical media, the elitists come out and suggest that I am stupid or making a bad decision.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

So where do we draw the line, seriously?

Is all collecting hoarding then? Art collectors are hoarders? People who save pictures/photo albums are hoarders?

Can you physically own anything that you don't absolutely need and not be a hoarder?

Just curious.

[darkknightman]

Originally Posted by msb1428

Actually if you really knew anything, most peoples internets go down once a day or every other day. most just never realize it because it could be for very short periods. its mainly done for system updates and grid realignments and such.

Sorry, but I can't even remember the last time my internet went down. I do a lot of gaming, work on my computer at home, and obviously stream a lot of content. I guess my internet is more reliable than yours. And again with the condescending tone. LOL.

[darkknightman]

Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

So where do we draw the line, seriously?

Is all collecting hoarding then? Art collectors are hoarders? People who save pictures/photo albums are hoarders?

Can you physically own anything that you don't absolutely need and not be a hoarder?

Just curious.

No. Not all collecting is hoarding. I do think there is a healthy level. Surrounding yourself with things that you enjoy causes comfort no doubt. But when you see people who post videos of their collections of things like action figures and games and movies that fill up several rooms, that is hoarding.

[msb1428]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

I am not using a condescending tone. I am simply pointing out consumer behavior. Again, if you are so compelled, watch some documentaries on consumerism. It's eye opening. I am just trying to challenge people to think differently and unplug from blind consumerism. You really should not take offense. I enjoy movies just as much as the next person. But every time I mention that I am enjoying streaming more than physical media, the elitists come out and suggest that I am stupid or making a bad decision.

I don't think your liking streaming is stupid at all!!! I just don't like the fact that you can loose your collection at the hands of the provider and they will not reimburse you for you loss. That's really what I don't like about it. If I could actually download a copy of the movie I would probably go digital.

[JasonHensley]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

I am not using a condescending tone. I am simply pointing out consumer behavior. Again, if you are so compelled, watch some documentaries on consumerism. It's eye opening. I am just trying to challenge people to think differently and unplug from blind consumerism. You really should not take offense. I enjoy movies just as much as the next person. But every time I mention that I am enjoying streaming more than physical media, the elitists come out and suggest that I am stupid or making a bad decision.

Why would you consider a physical collection a disease yet a digital collection is perfectly normal? Shouldn't they both be viewed as obsessive compulsive by your logic?

[JasonHensley]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

I am not using a condescending tone. I am simply pointing out consumer behavior. Again, if you are so compelled, watch some documentaries on consumerism. It's eye opening. I am just trying to challenge people to think differently and unplug from blind consumerism. You really should not take offense. I enjoy movies just as much as the next person. But every time I mention that I am enjoying streaming more than physical media, the elitists come out and suggest that I am stupid or making a bad decision.

Originally Posted by darkknightman

No. Not all collecting is hoarding. I do think there is a healthy level. Surrounding yourself with things that you enjoy causes comfort no doubt. But when you see people who post videos of their collections of things like action figures and games and movies that fill up several rooms, that is hoarding.

By your own admission, you surround yourself with electronics and are constantly online. Quit talking in a tone like you're above surrounding yourself with material possessions when, in fact, being online constantly requires you to be surrounded by material possessions.