Oh noes teh sky is falling!

[xander]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Arrow obviously use the clear cases too.

What I really like is the thicker, more solid case. Even the early Viva Elite cases were so much thicker than current ones. Yens cases are thicker, but they have square tops that look weird. Nothing's perfect! Burn it all down!

Yes! Alamo Drafthouse uses clear as well. The ones I like are Olive's. Sturdy and yes, a little bit thicker.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

It wasn't until 2008 that Netflix had an all streaming plan, separate from the DVDs. My cable company started OnDenand way before that.

Are you in NYC? I know not all cable companies had that capability and even if they did not all of their subscribers had that option. I can see those options being available much sooner in some of the huge cities though.

It's gotten better though now that some companies offer IPTV apps through various third-party hardware (TVs, Blu-ray players, Roku, tablets, etc.)

For example, TWC has a Roku app that allows you to stream live TV. In the past few years, it has allowed more OnDemand content although it's still pretty limited, when compared to Netflix, and when OnDemand content is available it is usually limited to the last four episodes of a television program.

[kidglov3s]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

Are you in NYC? I know not all cable companies had that capability and even if they did not all of their subscribers had that option. I can see those options being available much sooner in some of the huge cities though.

It's gotten better though now that some companies offer IPTV apps through various third-party hardware (TVs, Blu-ray players, Roku, tablets, etc.)

For example, TWC has a Roku app that allows you to stream live TV. In the past few years, it has allowed more OnDemand content although it's still pretty limited, when compared to Netflix, and when OnDemand content is available it is usually limited to the last four episodes of a television program.

I know Comcast provided On-Demand options to me in Michigan at least as early as 2003. This is through the cable box on-demand.

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

Are you in NYC? I know not all cable companies had that capability and even if they did not all of their subscribers had that option. I can see those options being available much sooner in some of the huge cities though.

At the time I had Cablevision Optimum (now I have Verizon FiOS), and I had OnDemand with it in the early 2000s.

We have a plethora of options here for Television viewing:

• Cablevision Optimum OR Time-Warner Cable (depending on your area)
• Verizon FiOS
• DirecTV Satellite
• DISH Satellite
• Aereo (which now requires a TiVo)
• Good old fashion antenna.

Originally Posted by kidglov3s

I know Comcast provided On-Demand options to me in Michigan at least as early as 2003. This is through the cable box on-demand.

The funny thing is that it wasn't until 2003 when I heard of Comcast. I was a member of the now defunct Zelda Forums that went online that year, and people from the western states were complaining about Comcast.

[Packerfan75]

Originally Posted by CharlieBarkin

Netflix could just remove stuff at will, I don't like the idea of having them dictate what I can and cannot watch when I want to. Physical media is the only real way to control what I want to watch.

This is as good a defense as any why we need physical media.

[b_l_u]

I hate digital with a passion! The quality is inferior and there is just something about being able to pick a movie up and look at it. Also when I am skimming through my movies I may come across a movie that I had forgot about and get in the mood to watch it.

I think what turns people off to Blu-ray from my experience is the limited number releases and how fast some movies go OOP.

[darkknightman]

I am mostly digital now and find that I now watch more of my collection now that it is more convenient to do so. Sometimes I will have a movie playing in the background while I am doing other things. Something I didn't do with physical media. It is also very convenient to just launch a movie and skip right to some of your favorite scenes. I have some blu rays left but it would not upset me if digital becomes more mainstream. The minuses are a degradation of quality but I'm really okay with it. Vudu streaming is pretty good and I do anticipate that streaming technology is going to improve over time.

[JasonHensley]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

I am mostly digital now and find that I now watch more of my collection now that it is more convenient to do so. Sometimes I will have a movie playing in the background while I am doing other things. Something I didn't do with physical media. It is also very convenient to just launch a movie and skip right to some of your favorite scenes. I have some blu rays left but it would not upset me if digital becomes more mainstream. The minuses are a degradation of quality but I'm really okay with it. Vudu streaming is pretty good and I do anticipate that streaming technology is going to improve over time.

Is it seriously that hard for people to put a disc in a player to start a movie? Seriously? You can also "launch" a bluray and skip to a scene you want to watch.

[darkknightman]

Originally Posted by JasonHensley

Is it seriously that hard for people to put a disc in a player to start a movie? Seriously? You can also "launch" a bluray and skip to a scene you want to watch.

It's the advancement of technology. It has nothing to do with it being hard. It's just that digital is convenient. Is it hard to to get up and change channels on a TV dial? So get rid of your remote and change channels manually. Is it hard to light candles in your house instead of switching lights on? Perhaps you should go outside and cook your food over an open flame instead of the convenience of using home stoves. I am not a lazy person by any means if that is what your suggesting. I work 40 hours a week and work out at my local gym two hours a day. I just can never understand this argument. If you love your physical media, by all means that is your business. I prefer the convenience of streaming and not having the clutter of plastic discs around my house. I avoid collecting things because it is a giant pain in the ass. It causes unneeded stress. Digital is saving me all kinds of money as I purchase from people selling on forums, or I cash in the code on blu rays and then sell the blu ray on Ebay. I have spent foolishly over the years on discs and would rather spend my money on experiences rather than things.

[42041]

Studios sure make it much more hassle than it needs to be. The irony of only legitimate paying customers having to watch anti-piracy warnings still seems to be eluding them.

[JasonHensley]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

It's the advancement of technology. It has nothing to do with it being hard. It's just that digital is convenient. Is it hard to to get up and change channels on a TV dial? So get rid of your remote and change channels manually. Is it hard to light candles in your house instead of switching lights on? Perhaps you should go outside and cook your food over an open flame instead of the convenience of using home stoves. I am not a lazy person by any means if that is what your suggesting. I work 40 hours a week and work out at my local gym two hours a day. I just can never understand this argument. If you love your physical media, by all means that is your business. I prefer the convenience of streaming and not having the clutter of plastic discs around my house. I avoid collecting things because it is a giant pain in the ass. It causes unneeded stress. Digital is saving me all kinds of money as I purchase from people selling on forums, or I cash in the code on blu rays and then sell the blu ray on Ebay. I have spent foolishly over the years on discs and would rather spend my money on experiences rather than things.

Personally, if I have a movie in mind to watch, I find it no more strenuous to put it in a bluray player than it is having to load up a streaming service or whatever. I also enjoy cooking outside a majority of the time when weather permits. No need to explain your work situation. I will find it lazy when people act as though putting a disc in a tray is a much harder concept than having to load up a streaming service or collection no matter how you like to spin it.

[BMM]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

It's the advancement of technology. It has nothing to do with it being hard. It's just that digital is convenient. Is it hard to to get up and change channels on a TV dial? So get rid of your remote and change channels manually. Is it hard to light candles in your house instead of switching lights on? Perhaps you should go outside and cook your food over an open flame instead of the convenience of using home stoves. I am not a lazy person by any means if that is what your suggesting. I work 40 hours a week and work out at my local gym two hours a day. I just can never understand this argument. If you love your physical media, by all means that is your business. I prefer the convenience of streaming and not having the clutter of plastic discs around my house. I avoid collecting things because it is a giant pain in the ass. It causes unneeded stress. Digital is saving me all kinds of money as I purchase from people selling on forums, or I cash in the code on blu rays and then sell the blu ray on Ebay. I have spent foolishly over the years on discs and would rather spend my money on experiences rather than things.

Having Blu-Rays causes stress? Still trying to wrap my head around this logic.

[JasonHensley]

Also, spending money on "experiences" rather than "things" is a moronic statement. A bluray is not only an experience but also a thing that you actually own.

[schlock]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

I am mostly digital now and find that I now watch more of my collection now that it is more convenient to do so. Sometimes I will have a movie playing in the background while I am doing other things. Something I didn't do with physical media. It is also very convenient to just launch a movie and skip right to some of your favorite scenes. I have some blu rays left but it would not upset me if digital becomes more mainstream. The minuses are a degradation of quality but I'm really okay with it. Vudu streaming is pretty good and I do anticipate that streaming technology is going to improve over time.

David Lynch hates you.

[42041]

Originally Posted by JasonHensley

Also, spending money on "experiences" rather than "things" is a moronic statement. A bluray is not only an experience but also a thing that you actually own.

I don't want it to be a thing I own. The death of decent rental places has been the worst part of this transition from physical media for me.

[darkknightman]

Originally Posted by BMM

Having Blu-Rays causes stress? Still trying to wrap my head around this logic.

Collecting things is what I stated. Reading comprehension is your friend.

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

It's the advancement of technology. It has nothing to do with it being hard. It's just that digital is convenient. Is it hard to to get up and change channels on a TV dial? So get rid of your remote and change channels manually. Is it hard to light candles in your house instead of switching lights on? Perhaps you should go outside and cook your food over an open flame instead of the convenience of using home stoves. I am not a lazy person by any means if that is what your suggesting. I work 40 hours a week and work out at my local gym two hours a day. I just can never understand this argument. If you love your physical media, by all means that is your business. I prefer the convenience of streaming and not having the clutter of plastic discs around my house. I avoid collecting things because it is a giant pain in the ass. It causes unneeded stress. Digital is saving me all kinds of money as I purchase from people selling on forums, or I cash in the code on blu rays and then sell the blu ray on Ebay. I have spent foolishly over the years on discs and would rather spend my money on experiences rather than things.

The problem with streaming, is it's too expensive for what it is. The studio isn't paying for packaging, shipping, overhead, etc. Yet they charge, often times, more for streaming than the Blu-ray Disc cost. Maybe if digital movies didn't cost $15+* like they currently do.

I'd rather pay $30 for a Blu-ray Disc that I can hold in my hand, than $20 for the iTunes version of the same movie.

I can find Blu-ray titles on Amazon for around $5 that cost $15 on iTunes.

*$15 seems to be the average minimum (yes, I know $10 movie exist). Most movies, especially those by Disney, tend to be closer to $20.

Originally Posted by schlock

David Lynch hates you.

[msb1428]

All these people saying how "convenient" digital is becoming, and how its less expensive than physical media makes me laugh. What about when there is an internet outage or the speed is slow so your movie keeps rebuffing! And to pay $14.99-$19.99 to not own the movie, but own the "right to access" the movie is a joke. what happens to the money you paid for the movie you "own" when the streaming service no longer has the rights to that film..you loose it, but they keep your money, yeah no thanks

[darkknightman]

Originally Posted by JasonHensley

Personally, if I have a movie in mind to watch, I find it no more strenuous to put it in a bluray player than it is having to load up a streaming service or whatever. I also enjoy cooking outside a majority of the time when weather permits. No need to explain your work situation. I will find it lazy when people act as though putting a disc in a tray is a much harder concept than having to load up a streaming service or collection no matter how you like to spin it.

I already explained myself regarding your argument. Why is it such a problem for physical media collectors to accept that some people are okay with streaming? Why is that so threatening to you? I could go on about why I think collecting is just another form of hoarding. I have been interacting on these forums for years and have seen such irrational consumer behavior. People buying multiple version of the same movie. People buying terrible films just because they were at a discounted price. An example was someone on this forum buying Lindsey Lohan's Labor Pains blu ray because it was three dollars. Adults buying special edition blu rays because they came with lunch boxes or action figures or plush toys. We are conditioned to want to purchase things because we think it can fill holes in our lives that we don't know are there. That's why people can't stop buying things to add to their collections. Is owning thousands of movies really practical or even rational? Are you going to really watch all of those films again? I know pepole will respond with anger but I accept that. It's difficult to get unplugged from consumerism.

[darkknightman]

Originally Posted by msb1428

All these people saying how "convenient" digital is becoming, and how its less expensive than physical media makes me laugh. What about when there is an internet outage or the speed is slow so your movie keeps rebuffing! And to pay $14.99-$19.99 to not own the movie, but own the "right to access" the movie is a joke. what happens to the money you paid for the movie you "own" when the streaming service no longer has the rights to that film..you loose it, but they keep your money, yeah no thanks

Your blu ray is contingent on your electricity working. Do you worry about your power grid going down? The chance of losing electricity is much higher than losing your internet. If there is a problem with my connection I am sure I can find something else to do. When I talk about the stress that comes with owning things, this post is a prime example. And again,a physical media owner speaking about those who enjoy streaming in a condescending tone.