Oh noes teh sky is falling!

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by octagon

The availability of 'tv ready' content will not be an issue. Millions and millions and millions of people have clearly and unambiguously demonstrated that they are more than happy to watch standard definition and stripped down high definition content on their big screen HDTVs.

Now, you might not like the idea of watching a DVD or a digital HD download on your big screen TV but the marketplace - you know, all those people whose behavior you're trying to predict - is totally fine with that.

And that content isn't going anywhere.

Oh, and while we're on the subject of TV ready content, I don't think you've ever responded to the multiple people who have raised the issue of watching live sports.

Do you envision billions of people watching the World Cup on their watches in a few years? And do you figure that will lead to broadcasters offering the smartphone version - and only the smartphone version - of the World Cup coverage?

Or does that seem kind of ridiculous to you?



You keep pointing to DVD and Blu-ray as if they support your 'there can be only one' mindset but they don't. Out in the marketplace DVD and Blu-ray and cable and other forms of streaming all coexist.

Even if - and this is a huge, ridiculous if - a 'smartphone copy' of Interstellar becomes the most popular way of watching Interstellar there is absolutely no reason to believe it will ever be the only way to watch Interstellar.

Just look at DVD...

Sport? Well LTE services for mobile will certainly make personal sport transmissions a lot easier and very accessible so I guess so. Sport on a tablet or smartphone? Sure for millenials at least. They are the target for now. A small package of channels (or apps) for a monthly fee. Those people are not going to pay two subscriptions are they?

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Sport? Well LTE services for mobile will certainly make personal sport transmissions a lot easier and very accessible so I guess so.

You guess so? What does that mean exactly?

Do you think phones will ever be the most popular way of watching the World Cup?

Do you think phones will ever be the only way of watching the World Cup?

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Sport on a tablet or smartphone? Sure for millenials at least. They are the target for now. A small package of channels (or apps) for a monthly fee. Those people are not going to pay two subscriptions are they?

They wouldn't need two subscriptions. They could just sync their smart device with their smart TV or access the account directly from the smart TV itself.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by octagon

You guess so? What does that mean exactly?

Do you think phones will ever be the most popular way of watching the World Cup?

Do you think phones will ever be the only way of watching the World Cup?



They wouldn't need two subscriptions. They could just sync their smart device with their smart TV or access the account directly from the smart TV itself.

Not in The future they couldn't! . Don't forget that 'pay by screen size' possibility. Devices would have to be tagged. If it works for movies it will almost certainly apply to other things.

Yeah, I think smartphones could one day become the dominant way of watching all media. Personal is the key word.

[dublinbluray108]

The thing that has got me for watching a movie on an iPad or on a tablet is that people who have that resource along with an internet connection may just rely on a limited selection of movies on that device compared to what they really have as an actual physical disc collection at home to get around while being on the go.

This scenario may currently apply to those who already have a movie or TV show on physical media but if they are not bothered to have the digital copy on UV. They may try to purchase a digital copy and later on they may say that it maybe too expensive to justify themselves in purchasing a digital copy of the same thing when they already have it on a disc and works perfectly at home on their HT.

On the other hand the only alternative for them as a pay only option is seeing it through Netflix if they are allowed to access the service.

Although if they have all their movies uploaded to iPad or Android device from their HD, well they can watch their movies on the go without any problems if they did ripped those copies from a Blu-ray or DVD.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yeah, I think smartphones could one day become the dominant way of watching all media. Personal is the key word.

That's great but it's not what I asked.

Do you think phones will ever be the only way to watch the World Cup?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by octagon

That's great but it's not what I asked.

Do you think phones will ever be the only way to watch the World Cup?

Possibly. If to sets are not used much in future it's hard to justify cost for a few sports events per year. Don't be surprised if smartwatches come into the equation at some point down the line.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by BluMan28

Let's not forget the attractiveness of selling a digital product that has no substance whatsoever, that is in fact not a product at all but actually access to product.

This has such a dramatically lower cost of production compared to producing physical media which I'm sure is rather seductive to studio exec's looking to achieve hefty bonuses by finding ways to cut costs. That alone could drive the move away from physical media, no matter what the demographics are or what perceptions of what the mass market wants these days.

I myself don't see physical media ever completely going away though. Seems to me it's going to simply become a very niche, specialized product that is rarely made and only for collectors who are willing to pay a very high price point. A present day example of this would be vinyl records. They've long since left the mass media market, but are still being made for a targeted niche group. I could see movies on physical media going down a very similar road over the next 20 years.

A digital download is certainly a product, though. It's a physical file you can copy and put on whatever machine you want.

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by octagon

That's great but it's not what I asked.

Do you think phones will ever be the only way to watch the World Cup?

No way. Sports are one of the few experiences where people want a big screen.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by singhcr

No way. Sports are one of the few experiences where people want a big screen.

Absolutely. It's madness to think people are going to watch sports on phones and on phones alone.

There's definitely a market for portable sports feeds. Checking other games on a tablet while watching some games on a TV would be pretty cool. Catching your local games while you're on the road or watching a game out in the yard or something like that is pretty cool too.

But none of that will ever replace watching sports on a big screen. It just won't.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

A digital download is certainly a product, though. It's a physical file you can copy and put on whatever machine you want.

how is it physical file when its a damn file on the computer

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by PuppetMasterBlu

I wish that were true but people are lazy and I can promise you the average person doesn't know or give a damn about Atmos.

My point is the kind of people that enjoy blu-rays and going to the theatre to experience the movie as it was meant to be experienced are not the same kind of people who torrent a cam rip to watch on their phone. There are lots of people that still enjoy the experience of the big screen with the thunderous surround sound. Many, many people don't even bother owning a surround set-up and the theatre is the only way they get to experience it. It's a fun night out and I doubt watching a cam rip alone on a phone gives the same fulfillment. The people that are happy with that experience are already a lost cause and will never spend money on blu-rays or going to the theatre.

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

A digital download is certainly a product, though. It's a physical file you can copy and put on whatever machine you want.

I don't think you know what the word "physical" means.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by mredman

how is it physical file when its a damn file on the computer

Blu-rays and DVDs are just files on discs, aren't they?

Are files stored on optical discs more 'real' or 'tangible' than files stored on magnetic media or is that just a matter of perception?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by octagon

Absolutely. It's madness to think people are going to watch sports on phones and on phones alone.

There's definitely a market for portable sports feeds. Checking other games on a tablet while watching some games on a TV would be pretty cool. Catching your local games while you're on the road or watching a game out in the yard or something like that is pretty cool too.

But none of that will ever replace watching sports on a big screen. It just won't.

But we ain't talking about sport, we are talking about movies.

[mar3o]

Hopeless.

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by octagon

Blu-rays and DVDs are just files on discs, aren't they?

Are files stored on optical discs more 'real' or 'tangible' than files stored on magnetic media or is that just a matter of perception?

Yes, because you can hold it in your hands.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Hopeless.

It is hopeless, unless we ditch streaming and embrace the disc (everyone)

[Blu-FutureUK]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

Yes, because you can hold it in your hands.

You can hold a USB Stick,HDD in your hand too

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by Blu-FutureUK

You can hold a USB Stick,HDD in your hand too

It's still an encrypted, DRM file though. So it's not tangible because you can't resell it.

[42041]

An DRM-free unprotected file is arguably more "physical" than the stuff on an encrypted blu-ray disc, in the sense that your ownership of it is total. You could carve the 1s and 0s on clay tablets if you want. To get anything useful off a bluray you need a licensed player or illegal software.