Oh noes teh sky is falling!

[PCFan]

Originally Posted by John Klein

Considering a couple of days ago my internet went out for the entire morning, right in the middle of a show I was streaming and I couldn't finish it. Yeah, I'm never going to support digital or streaming completely. At least with physical media I only have to worry about my power.

What about scratched discs? Damaged cases? Disc rot?

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by PCFan

What about scratched discs? Damaged cases? Disc rot?

Neither ownership method is fool proof, that's for sure. The chances of iTunes going away someday and taking your purchases with it are likely no greater than the chance of a fire or tornado destroying your collection.

I think it honestly comes down to some people caring about the quality difference and others not. Some people caring about asking the company permission on new hardware and others not. Some people caring about supplements and others not. Some people caring about packaging and others not. Neither is right or wrong, it just depends on what you care about. Streaming will easily win the mainstream because the vast majority of consumers care about none of that crap and choose ease of use and convenience every time.

[PCFan]

With the router or internet issues I've been having, streaming for me sure is convenient (being sarcastic).

[PenguinMaster]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Neither ownership method is fool proof, that's for sure. The chances of iTunes going away someday and taking your purchases with it are likely no greater than the chance of a fire or tornado destroying your collection.

The bigger issue with digital is everyone's copy of an individual title being lost. While a title can certainly be removed from digital stores and become unavailable to everyone simultaneously, there is extremely little chance that every Blu-ray or DVD of a title will be destroyed.

If my copy of a Blu-ray or DVD is destroyed it is replaceable. If a title is delisted from digital stores it is not replaceable.

[knight17]

Let us just use WB's "Tom and Jerry Golden Collection" as an example.

They intially stated that all cartoons were to be released as they were originally intended, in 3 volumes.

They go ahead with the first release and then simply abandon the project.

All those who purchased the first volume, now has no way of completing the collection, simply because WB holds the rights to them (I do wish MGM didn't go bankrupt, they might have given it the recognition it deserves).

End of the day you can see what a studio is capable of when it has complete leverage and control over anything.

If this is the case for blu rays imagine what would happen with digital downloads.

At least with physical media, purchasing the stuff will end any further involvement with the studios but with digital downloads they will always have complete control.

While problems do exist with physical media (like mentioned above) at least ownership means real ownership.

Originally Posted by PCFan

What about scratched discs? Damaged cases? Disc rot?

I am yet to get a single scratched or damaged disc. Unless you don't take care of your stuff very well, disc rot is not something that will happen in the near future. Besides there is also the option of replacing them. Unfortunately the digital options can't easily be replaced should something go wrong.

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by PCFan

What about scratched discs? Damaged cases? Disc rot?

LOL, I have thousands of DVDs and Blus...none of them are scatched. I have never seen disc rot in person.

[The Batman Professor]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

I have never seen disc rot in person.

Last time I saw disc rot, the disc was 12" in diameter.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by Rich1631

Thats odd, the 4K section in the Best Buy near me (New Jersey, USA) actually has some titles sold out or like 1 copy left (Martian Extended, Mad Max, Star Trek 1 and 2). I've been near that section maybe 4-5 times in past 2 months and I've noticed stuff selling fairly well. I'm not talking hotcakes...but better than I expected. Some titles never seem to move (Spider-man 2, Fant4stic, Hancock, Peanuts)

The store I work for, the UHD's don't really sell. The only one that has moved is DEADPOOL. BATMAN v SUPERMAN was released this week and we moved a few UHD's but not like DEADPOOL.

I just don't see UHD taking off. It's going to be even more niche, I think.

[knight17]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

The store I work for, the UHD's don't really sell. The only one that has moved is DEADPOOL. BATMAN v SUPERMAN was released this week and we moved a few UHD's but not like DEADPOOL.

I just don't see UHD taking off. It's going to be even more niche, I think.

It just might take awhile like it did with Blu ray. There are a lot of people who are pretty new to Blu-ray despite it being a standard for a decade.

I myself will be getting into UHD within a year or two. I might do so a lot earlier if they include box sets with normal blu rays.

[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

So here's an interesting statistic that means nothing... I'm a member of a Disney Advisory panel and had posted this survey a few weeks ago. In total there are 500 members of this panel and almost half have responded so far. The results aren't terrible surprising, but also not as discouraging as I expected.



Yes the sample size is incredibly small and specific, but it's encouraging to see Blu Ray beating DVD and for Digital to be out right failing miserably.

Hey, ya know what I see here?
I see that people like different things, different ways...

Think of shopping at a grocery store; Nobody shops, let alone eats the same way.

So this poll tells me that we live in a multi-format world, meaning physical and streaming will coexist.

Plus , "watching" movies is different than "buying" movies. I rent movies via VOD, and buy blu-ray's of movies I like.

[Ben_UK]

Ive had disc rot. Most of my Simspons DVDs are now unusable.

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by The Batman Professor

This is particularly distasteful to me, considering that I've purchased POTA 13 times, across SIX different formats (Beta, VHS, Laserdisc, DIVX, DVD, and Blu!)

But like all good obsessives, I can't stop...

You're one of the 3 people on the planet that actually bought movies on DIVX?

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

The store I work for, the UHD's don't really sell. The only one that has moved is DEADPOOL. BATMAN v SUPERMAN was released this week and we moved a few UHD's but not like DEADPOOL.

I just don't see UHD taking off. It's going to be even more niche, I think.

That number will rise once more good titles are on UHD. The launch titles included garbage such as Fant4stic.

I don't yet own a UHD TV (or UHD player), but regardless I'd buy the UHD version of Star Wars if it ever comes out; only if it's the original unaltered theatrical versions.

[Ggould1975]

If UHD blurays take off I would be really surprised, considering the size of screen you need for it. I dunno, at this point im not getting into it at all. The vast majority I just don't see getting into it at all, you can only go so far, it's a movie, a picture, owning the film for itself. But hey I could be wrong, I heard titles aren't going to be that big on the format anyways so very niche in my opinion but we shall see

[I KEEL YOU]

Originally Posted by Ben_UK

Ive had disc rot. Most of my Simspons DVDs are now unusable.

Yeah, some Fox DVDs, Warner DVDs from 2005-2010 and Universal DVD-9s are prone to disc rot.

[Cranston37]

Originally Posted by Ggould1975

If UHD blurays take off I would be really surprised, considering the size of screen you need for it. I dunno, at this point im not getting into it at all. The vast majority I just don't see getting into it at all, you can only go so far, it's a movie, a picture, owning the film for itself. But hey I could be wrong, I heard titles aren't going to be that big on the format anyways so very niche in my opinion but we shall see

I think an option too is that the studios do away with the regular flavor Blu we have now and just release the 4K/Blu/Digital HD combo (hopefully at lower price). There are too many SKU's being released of each movie. Heck, if discs really do cost something like 5¢ to make just release one version of each movie that has 4K/Blu/DVD/DigitalHD and be done with it...

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

LOL, I have thousands of DVDs and Blus...none of them are scatched. I have never seen disc rot in person.

Exactly!
As long as you store your media in a cool, dry place they should last for a very long time.
Some of these stories I hear, I have to wonder if folks are storing their collections underwater or on the roof to get a nice tan.

[LexInHD]

I bought nearly 100 Blu-Ray titles this month. I have no intention of stopping any time soon.

[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Exactly!
As long as you store your media in a cool, dry place they should last for a very long time.
Some of these stories I hear, I have to wonder if folks are storing their collections underwater or on the roof to get a nice tan.

Being a disc manufacturer for twenty years, the saying used to be something like, "CDs and DVDs should last your lifetime, or at least fifty years".

But I don't know the lifespan of a Blu-ray.

I know in 1989, when CD-R's were $50 a pop, we'd use them as source masters for our cassette duplication and CD replication.
I had a band then, and put my music on a CD-R in 1989... and that CD-R still plays today, twenty seven years later.

[StingingVelvet]

I have always heard a professionally pressed DVD should last a lifetime if stored correctly, barring random flaws. I would guess a BD is at least the same, if not much longer.