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[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Groot

I'd assume a lot of people who rip films onto hard drives also have a back up drive? It would be insane not to.

The discs themselves are my back up of the rip. As I said earlier it's easy to re-rip those titles.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

The discs themselves are my back up of the rip. As I said earlier it's easy to re-rip those titles.

If you don't have thousands, sure. But 30-40 minutes each for a lot of films is tedious. I'd just have a back up drive in place too, but that's me.

[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by Groot

If you don't have thousands, sure. But 30-40 minutes each for a lot of films is tedious. I'd just have a back up drive in place too, but that's me.

But does that get into redundancy? Having a disc, a back up, and a back up of the back up?

[Blu Titan]

Just FYI...from 1/1/2016 to 9/24/2016 Blu-ray sales revenue is up 9.1% over 2015 .

*Credit bruceames for compiling the weekly sales data .

[Groot]

Originally Posted by eiknarf

But does that get into redundancy? Having a disc, a back up, and a back up of the back up?

Not really? I have a back up of my computer on a second drive and I mirror it to my home server, so I have a back up of a back up. It takes up about 5 inches or so of space. With modern drives mirroring between them takes hardly no time, but I can rest assure my data is available somewhere should it get destroyed/corrupted on one front.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Groot

If you don't have thousands, sure. But 30-40 minutes each for a lot of films is tedious. I'd just have a back up drive in place too, but that's me.

Sure, that would be ideal if I was made of money.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Sure, that would be ideal if I was made of money.

If you are sticking with solid-state, sure most people can't go drop $1500 on a 4TB or $3000+ for larger. If you go with magnetic drives, a 10TB is only around $450. While not ideal for constant everyday use, it'd make a safe back up drive.

[78deluxe]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Well, I'd love to replace them with flash drives since they have no moving parts making them more reliable. The problem is that the prices are insane once you get close to a 1 TB.

At 30 min a movie you would be looking at over 400 hours to "back up" my collection. That does not involve any compression. So you are looking at 4TB drive as well.

You would want at least 1 back up drive, so make that two 4TB drives for the project and over 400 hours to do it.

400 hours is 1/5 of a year of a normal 40 hr work week. That is an absurd amount of time.

[Old Geezer]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Just FYI...from 1/1/2016 to 9/24/2016 Blu-ray sales revenue is up 9.1% over 2015 .

*Credit bruceames for compiling the weekly sales data .

Excellent! Good news indeed.

[bigshot]

Originally Posted by 78deluxe

400 hours is 1/5 of a year of a normal 40 hr work week. That is an absurd amount of time.

I rip in the background on all of my computers while I work, then I dump the rips on a portable hard drive. I have one computer that is dedicated just to compressing. It runs 24/7. It isn't the sort of thing that requires a lot of attention, so I multitask it.

[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by bigshot

I rip in the background on all of my computers while I work, then I dump the rips on a portable hard drive. I have one computer that is dedicated just to compressing. It runs 24/7. It isn't the sort of thing that requires a lot of attention, so I multitask it.

Still pretty wild dedication. Definitely in the minority. And that's not a bad thing.
I mean, us blu-ray collectors are in the minority already. I'm thinking that my chances of running into someone else doing what you're doing (in the real world) is about equal to my chances of getting struck by lightning and winning the lotto....in the same week haaaaa

[bigshot]

Originally Posted by gates70

Hard drives are unpredictable at how long they can last no matter if you clean them or not. If one of those breaks, how many movies are you losing all at once ?

My drives are in a disk array, so if a drive fails, I just replace it and it recreates the missing drive from redundant data backed up on the other drives in the array. It isn't the same as an off site backup, but as long as I attend to my volumes every once in a while with Disk Warrior, they stay nice and healthy. It also helps to use drives that are designed for NAS. Those have a longer life and can tolerate heat better.

[bigshot]

Originally Posted by eiknarf

Still pretty wild dedication. Definitely in the minority. And that's not a bad thing.

Well, it helps to be a professional digital archivist. I maintain over 100 TB of data altogether. It's all about setting up a workflow, then just moving stuff along down the line bit by bit.

[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by bigshot

Well, it helps to be a professional digital archivist. I maintain over 100 TB of data altogether. It's all about setting up a workflow, then just moving stuff along down the line bit by bit.

Definitely.
My hat's off to you, no doubt.
I'm envious.

[StingingVelvet]

I want to backup my collection someday, but not until it's affordable to rip everything at full quality and have redundant drives for everything. Maybe in 2030.

[Nightopian]

Bluray will eventually be phased out just like everything else has in the past. It's not a question of if, but when. It may not be for a very long time though but sooner or later it will cease to exist. Look at DVD though, it's still as alive as ever and in full force for almost 20 years now without any signs of going away. I don't think Bluray will be replaced by UHD, I think all 3 formats will coexist with eachother to continue to give consumers a choice in format, price and quality. There are still hundreds of thousands of DVD's which aren't on Bluray and probably will never make it to Bluray and then it thins out further down the chain to UHD...so we kinda need all the formats really.

I think there will come a time when the big companies just stop supporting physical media altogether at the same time and we'll be forced to go to digital downloads. After all, dlc is a lot more cost effective for them so why wouldn't they push it on us...slowly but surely it is starting to happen now and it is probably that younger generation of people which value speed and convenience over sentimentality who will be the nail in the coffin for this medium.

Blu-ray.com will eventually be shut down and we'll all be talking to eachother in a thread titled "Remember Blu-ray?" on the DLC.com forums. See you all there!!

[StingingVelvet]

DVD/BD/UHD easily co-exist because of the similar disc formats and backwards compatibility. I would guess all three will be around for a long time, and players for them will be sold (online at least) until I die. There's just too many discs out there for the market to totally fade into nothing.

Will we start seeing more and more digital exclusives though? Oh yeah.

[thatguamguy]

Originally Posted by Groot

I'd assume a lot of people who rip films onto hard drives also have a back up drive? It would be insane not to.

You can order a Network Access Storage setup with 2 8TB drives (one automatically backing up the other) for about $700. For me, I think it's definitely worth it, although I admit that I have been waiting until I really need the space just in case there's a good sale before the end of the year.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by thatguamguy

You can order a Network Access Storage setup with 2 8TB drives (one automatically backing up the other) for about $700. For me, I think it's definitely worth it, although I admit that I have been waiting until I really need the space just in case there's a good sale before the end of the year.

$700? You can get two WD 8 TB drives for $250 each on Amazon. I have of them and it's actually 7.27 TBs. Mine has 290 BDs on it with 2.82 GB to spare.

[Eny-]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

$700? You can get two WD 8 TB drives for $250 each on Amazon. I have of them and it's actually 7.27 TBs. Mine has 290 BDs on it with 2.82 GB to spare.

Seeing that I have around 1500 discs, it still comes short