Sony UBP-X700 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[L'armée des ombres]

I gave up on my 700 and went with Panasonic dp-ub450 which is a nice player and you don't have to switch on the DV every time you play a DV disc.
Also you can do the remote trick for Criterion blu's (i'm in region B)

[cricepng]

Originally Posted by Alister_M

All 4K TVs upscale SD and HD content by default. It has to do that in order to fill the screen, otherwise you'd have a little window in the corner and the rest of the screen would be black.

Not actually true. There is a difference between stretching/zooming and upscaling. Most but not all 4K TVs have an upscaling engine.

[mikesncc1701]

Originally Posted by anonymous_024

Welp, I just experienced my first freezing since the software update last night! I was really hoping that it was gone, but there it was again.

I don’t really know what it is wrong with these players anymore. Oh well, it only happens every once a while, so I guess I’ll just give it a pass (nothing’s perfect in the world of physical media nowadays).

The only thing that works every time is to just eject the disc, then put it back in. The freeze won’t happen again, at least for a while.

What title was it? I've watched quite a few discs since the update with no problems. Even the notorious 007 4K set played flawlessly.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by cricepng

Not actually true. There is a difference between stretching/zooming and upscaling. Most but not all 4K TVs have an upscaling engine.

How's that? If a 4K TV was not upscaling a 720x480 DVD it would occupy a mere 4% of the screen, a 1920x1080 Blu-ray would take up a quarter.

[halloween5309]

if discs are freezing turn up the thermostat

[Herry Dunston]

After some calibration and setting up the new AVR, I realized what's the deal with the motionflow of the player, and it's due to the TV itself. Whenever a disc or a movie shifts resolution or dynamic range, the picture options change as well; I checked the options while playing a movie with HDR, and motionflow was enabled even though I set it to off. So I did that, and made sure all the options are as they were for each different movie presenation. And the TV---after also updating and changing options within the BD player due to oddities---is back to normal, even in 24p mode.

Gotta say, after experiencing HDR both in 10 and Dolby Vision, both from this 4KBD player and Apple TV 4k, from my self-calibrated Sony 900f setup...it looks about as good as my ol' Samsung Plasma TV. And I'm not sure if that's a word of praise by comparison. I've been told HDR is a game-changer, and I was watching the Starship Troopers UHD (told as a quality title for it), but outside out maybe more defined black levels, I can't really tell the significant difference.

[cricepng]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

How's that? If a 4K TV was not upscaling a 720x480 DVD it would occupy a mere 4% of the screen, a 1920x1080 Blu-ray would take up a quarter.

Zooming is just making the image bigger so that it fills the screen.

Upscaling involves enhancing the picture.

I have apps on my phone that can zoom the video image so that it fills the screen. But it is still a lower resolution image, just the dots are made to look bigger. No gain of information (real or algorithmic). There is still a noticeable difference between a 360 video zoomed in and a 720 zoomed in and a 1080 even though they all fill the screen.

While it is true that most players do some level of upscaling to improve the image quality, that upscaling is not the same as zooming.

[Geoff D]

TVs aren’t phones though. Yours is the first time I’ve heard such a distinction made between ‘zooming’ and upscaling, with the latter term being reserved for an actual “enhancement” process. What 4K TV equipment do you know of that ‘zooms’ but does not upscale?

[cricepng]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

TVs aren’t phones though. Yours is the first time I’ve heard such a distinction made between ‘zooming’ and upscaling, with the latter term being reserved for an actual “enhancement” process. What 4K TV equipment do you know of that ‘zooms’ but does not upscale?

I live overseas. Some of the in-country branded players and TVs do not upscale. Just last week I was in one of the higher end stores in Lae city and the StarVision branded player on a Samsung 4K TV playing a DVD just looked like a zoomed in DVD.

Just because almost all first-world brands today do both doesn't mean that it is a universal feature.

[Geoff D]

But what would you expect an upscaled DVD to do differently? Would it somehow look not shit?

[Alister_M]

There's only so much you can do when upscaling an image with 10x lower resolution than the display. That said, some well-encoded DVDs can look fairly decent. My old DVD of The Serpent and The Rainbow is one of them, it looks a bit "thin" but it still looks filmic. NTSC DVDs always seem to fare a lot better when upscaled, despite the slightly lower resolution. probably because the player bypasses the 3:2 pulldown and displays them at 24fps. PAL ones display far more visible interlacing artefacts and are also more prone to looking like complete arse in dark scenes.

[Geoff D]

Yes but is it being "upscaled" at all? lol

[Alister_M]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yes but is it being "upscaled" at all? lol

All my gear is Sony so I should bloody well think so!

[EinCB128]

The UBP-X700 M is my first UHD player. Some questions.

I'm trying to screen mirror to my Windows 10 PC, but Miracast is only giving me the option to mirror to my smartphone. Is it not possible to mirror to my PC?

At the moment, I do not have a 4K TV. I see it's being displayed as HDR - > SDR. Is my TV displaying some aspects of HDR?

Where does everyone set your HDR conversion number? The default is 3. I'm not sure where I should place mine.

I've played some of Phantom Thread and American Gangster, no problems whatsoever. I'm so far very happy with this player.

Thank you.

[D00mM4r1n3]

I've never used miracast but it needs to be configured under Settings > System > Project to this PC.

Sony has a FAQ for it: https://www.sony.com.my/electronics/...icles/00111484

[IncoherentBabble]

Two discs have frozen up in the last two days at multiple points. Since the player automatically turns itself off after 5 minutes of being paused, I wonder how it could get overheated if it's only playing for an hour.

Any suggestions?

The two discs were the new Dune UHD 4K disc, at the 5 minute mark and the 47 minute mark (which is the point where everyone was having problems with it) and the Arrow UK disc of Frankenhooker, at the 57 minute mark and then twice during one of the special features, a few minutes in and then near the end.

For Dune, the first freeze up required a full unplugging, as did the first one for Frankenhooker. For the second one on both films, eventually the player allowed itself to be turned off. When playing those same portions back after starting the movies up again, there were no issues with those scenes in particular.

I've had the player since the end of May, so it's not a matter of overuse.

[AreaFive]

Originally Posted by IncoherentBabble

Two discs have frozen up in the last two days at multiple points. Since the player automatically turns itself off after 5 minutes of being paused, I wonder how it could get overheated if it's only playing for an hour.

Any suggestions?.

Mine does this very rarely. Apart from the obvious (make sure the disc is clean and the player has plenty of ventilation) a simple fix for me is to simply restart the player or open the disc tray.

[Travis]

Got my player to send Netflix 4K HDR.

Had to change a Screen Setting.
24p Output —> Network content: Auto

[Alister_M]

Originally Posted by Travis

Got my player to send Netflix 4K HDR.

Had to change a Screen Setting.
24p Output —> Network content: Auto

Make sure you plug it into the router, don't use Wifi or it'll throttle the bitrate.

[chrimbo]

I can't stress how much I LOVE this player!!!!!!!!!!! I binged my boxset of The American Office earlier this year with Dolby Vision turned on and couldn't believe how good it looked on my 48" LG OLED - it honestly looked like a 4K disc with native Dolby Vision to my and my carer's eyes! Looking through this thread, I'm really surprised people turn Dolby Vision off for non-DV content.

Anyway, I hope I'm allowed to ask this here, but is there any way to make this particular player region-free short of soldering or buying a pre-h*cked player? I'd love to be able to play my Friday the 13th Scream Factory discs without the middleman of my PC.

Many Thanks in advance