The Shining 4K UHD (1980)

[andyk69]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

I recognize we live in a kumbaya age where we have to respect everyone's opinion but this one literally makes me want to punch a hole in the nearest wall.

So what is your take on why Kubrick cut those scenes for the International version?

[koberulz]

Originally Posted by Bn43

I'd just really love to see the 1.33:1 version. I don't get why having both aspect ratios is so simple to do for something like Batman: Mask of the Phantasm but impossible for a major movie.

Of course it's possible So is replacing all the characters with CGI. Both are wrong.

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by andyk69

So what is your take on why Kubrick cut those scenes for the International version?

Frankly, I don’t give a shit what his reasons were, anymore than I care why Spielberg ruined THE TERMINAL at the eleventh hour by changing its ending, instantly making it my least favorite film of his career. Even geniuses make the occasional bad call. And in Kubrick’s case, the fact that he never replaced the U.S. cut with the UK one is all that matters in the end.

[Cherokee Jack]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

Frankly, I don’t give a shit what his reasons were, anymore than I care why Spielberg ruined THE TERMINAL at the eleventh hour by changing its ending, instantly making it my least favorite film of his career. Even geniuses make the occasional bad call. And in Kubrick’s case, the fact that he never replaced the U.S. cut with the UK one is all that matters in the end.

He also never replaced the Euro cut with the American one before he died. What's your point?

[MatOfTheDead]

this is absolutely breathtaking not even finished watching yet and i already wanna watch it again for all the little details

[SexySamSosa67]

It's more scarier in 4K, too!

[evoll]

As many others have said the PQ looks great for this release. Watched it in DV and knew it was going to be special just from the beginning looking at the mountain scenes.

[Ray O. Blu]

Originally Posted by evoll

As many others have said the PQ looks great for this release. Watched it in DV and knew it was going to be special just from the beginning looking at the mountain scenes.

I can relate to this.
I always felt the beautiful opening scenes looked like a VHS tape when I watched it on DVD.
Then it looked like a DVD when I watched it on previous Blu-rays.

The 4K disc was the first time I felt that the cinematography was done justice.
What a gorgeous way to start a movie.

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by Cherokee Jack

He also never replaced the Euro cut with the American one before he died. What's your point?

My point is that, of the two choices, the American cut is VASTLY superior to the Euro cut. Would drawing a diagram help?

[ROSS.T.G.]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

My point is that, of the two choices, the American cut is VASTLY superior to the Euro cut. Would drawing a diagram help?

If you could that would be great.

[philthehip]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

My point is that, of the two choices, the American cut is VASTLY superior to the Euro cut. Would drawing a diagram help?

Why are you such a nasty person? Why can't you just accept that other people have grown up with the shorter version and that is the version we enjoy. Just like when I commented about the shorter version not being included, the delight you showed was nauseating. I can only assume that you are a bitter spiteful person.

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Well, shit. I've gone to bat for the Euro cut many many times but upon watching the UHD (which is glorious) I found myself enjoying the movie like never before. I still think it's a fraction too long but the sense of atmosphere and dread that it creates is palpable, and when I went back to check some stuff out in the Euro version I was like 'wait, what? They cut out Halloran's introduction entirely?!?'. Even the skellingtons didn't bother me.

Strange thing was that the US cut didn't actually feel like I was watching an unfamiliar version of the film. I don't watch this movie religiously and I've always tried to maintain a copy of the US cut (had the US LaserDisc years ago, then I bought the US DVD, then most recently the HMV UK Blu-ray with the US cut) so I guess it's just seeped into my brain over the years. In a way, all the longer scenes of mundane domesticity make the scarier moments that bit more scary when they eventually come along. That'll do Kubrick, that'll do.

Euro cut is horrible, doesn’t even feel like a Kubrick movie. BTW, that laserdisc is still the best way to watch The Shining.

[Cherokee Jack]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

My point is that, of the two choices, the American cut is VASTLY superior to the Euro cut. Would drawing a diagram help?

I suspect it's pretty hard to diagram non sequiturs.

What would help is giving the baiting a rest. You got your preferred cut on UHD and have already made it known with increasingly heated rhetoric that you think the other one shouldn't exist and that Kubrick's own preferences are meaningless regarding the issue. Why not go enjoy your UHD rather than continue to kick others while they're down?

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

BTW, that laserdisc is still the best way to watch The Shining.

Comical.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

My point is that, of the two choices, the American cut is VASTLY superior to the Euro cut. Would drawing a diagram help?

[ROSS.T.G.]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

Euro cut is horrible, doesn’t even feel like a Kubrick movie. BTW, that laserdisc is still the best way to watch The Shining.

Have you scheduled your CT Scan yet?

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

Have you scheduled your CT Scan yet?

Most movies on laserdisc look better.

[Fat Phil]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

Most movies on laserdisc look better.

But not Terminator 2, right?

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by Fat Phil

But not Terminator 2, right?

THX Squeeze looks mighty good...

[jasonmiles2014]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

Euro cut is horrible, doesn’t even feel like a Kubrick movie. BTW, that laserdisc is still the best way to watch The Shining.

I disagree. My CED copy is the ideal.