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Thanks given by: | BluProofie (07-25-2021) |
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#4742 |
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No, it's proof positive that Kubrick knew he wasn't perfect and was more than content to continue to tinker and explore the creative process to craft a leaner, more suspenseful cut of his film.
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Blu-ray Emperor
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I assume that the negative for the film was conformed to the US theatrical and Kubrick finished the European cut out to an interpositive (as you can’t have two negatives containing the same camera original, keptin!), so for that reason as much as anything the new 4K transfer was the US version only. They could’ve digitally conformed it to the Euro cut for sure, but I guess they thought “meh”
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#4746 | |
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Feb 2014
Bernicia, UK
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Less is more in these instances. The Director's don't always know the best version of their film as anyone who has had the misfortune to witness the Wenders' cut of Until the End of the World could attest. |
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Thanks given by: | Kyle15 (07-24-2021) |
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Feb 2014
Bernicia, UK
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I'm talking about the differences between the existing European & US versions. |
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When I watch the European cut, I literally don't miss anything from the U.S. cut. It just flows so deftly that I just become more absorbed than I do in the U.S. cut.
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Have to agree. Even if we had the International cut in 4K I'd still be watching the longer US cut. And that International cut on the old Blu-ray is barely watchable after seeing the 4K disc.
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Thanks given by: | dallywhitty (07-24-2021) |
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Blu-ray Samurai
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And FWIW, Kubrick already hacked the characters from the novel into little pieces for the American cut. That isn't surprising since he said in interviews that he didn't find King's family dynamics or focus on alcoholism terribly interesting. He did like the structure of the work however and the Euro cut maintains that structure just as well the American one. It's just that one is more leisurely whereas the other is unrelenting. And it is possible to like both: Kubrick apparently did after all. ![]() |
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#4756 |
Blu-ray Knight
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I like both cuts equally for different reasons.
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#4757 |
Blu-ray Emperor
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Ooh this is a toughie. Euro cut was all I’d watched of it until picking up the US laserdisc a while back, and it bored me. It seemed to meander too much, lots of time spent by the characters doing nothing. But watching it again on the 4K I fookin loved it.
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A recent review from a pro ...
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#4760 |
Blu-ray Grand Duke
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I think in part my preference for the US cut is fuelled by how annoyed I was when I found out the version I'd been watching for years was shortened. Also, the Euro cut seems even more like the ADHD version when you add PAL speedup. I've never seen it at the correct frame-rate, because the original Australian BD was a clone of the US disc. I was bloody well over the moon when I bought that disc, let me tell you that.
Oh, and as for the skeletons being "barely a minute", it's more like about 10 seconds, and even such a serious movie as this one still deserves that one cheesy relief shot. |
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