Samsung 4K UHD Blu-ray Player UBD-K8500 - Page 240 - Blu-ray Forum

MovieBuff02 · 03-26-2017, 02:03 AM

KS8000 owners- anybody else experiencing these blotches/noise in dark areas?

StingingVelvet · 03-26-2017, 04:55 AM

Looks like compression that would normally be hidden in blacks. Might your black level be too high, or maybe another setting making them more obvious than they should be? What movie is that?

Mark1L · 03-26-2017, 05:05 AM

I will hold out for the PS4 option myself. At least I can use a blue tooth controller. http://www.tykeanimal.com

MovieBuff02 · 03-26-2017, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Looks like compression that would normally be hidden in blacks. Might your black level be too high, or maybe another setting making them more obvious than they should be? What movie is that?

Could be..though there are no issues on blu ray. It is an old cable box mind you.

Patsfan123 · 03-26-2017, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MovieBuff02

KS8000 owners- anybody else experiencing these blotches/noise in dark areas?

What movie is it? And what is the timecode? Star Trek 09, STID, and John Wick UHD discs all have compression issues.

MovieBuff02 · 03-26-2017, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Patsfan123

What movie is it? And what is the timecode? Star Trek 09, STID, and John Wick UHD discs all have compression issues.

This is Straight Out Of Compton..being played on a cable box which is fairly old now. The movie is paused hence the timecode.

Patsfan123 · 03-26-2017, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MovieBuff02

This is Straight Out Of Compton..being played on a cable box which is fairly old now. The movie is paused hence the timecode.

Well this is a Blu-ray player thread so it's not really relevant. Cable compression is crap so that's why you're seeing those artifacts on the TV.

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StingingVelvet · 03-26-2017, 07:29 PM

Yeah I just assumed he meant a UHD disc for obvious reasons. Not the thread to complain about cable compression, which is terrible.

RockyIII · 03-26-2017, 07:39 PM

Totally off topic

Patsfan123 · 03-28-2017, 05:12 PM

So I've been watching movies on my Philips BDP7501 in place of the K8500 and the HDR colors/contrast/brightness look basically identical to me. Or at least there isn't a jarring difference.

The advantage of the BDP7501 is that it has a great info display that tells you the bitrate/codec/colorspace/chroma of both the source and what it's HDMI output is & no red smeary chroma error.

Disadvantages of the Philips are it will only output 8 bit or 12 bit for UHD & the overall GUI on the Samsung is nicer and tells you what disc is in the tray.

AxlVanHagar · 03-28-2017, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyIII

insert USB into USB port on the player, go to settings/support/software/update

Hmmm...I can't seem to get this to work for me. Clearly I'm doing something wrong but I'm damned if I can figure out what. I've downloaded the file and transferred it onto a USB but can't get the player to update itself. The file is on the drive but the player doesn't seem to be seeing it. Frustrating.

Falaskan · 03-28-2017, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AxlVanHagar

Hmmm...I can't seem to get this to work for me. Clearly I'm doing something wrong but I'm damned if I can figure out what. I've downloaded the file and transferred it onto a USB but can't get the player to update itself. The file is on the drive but the player doesn't seem to be seeing it. Frustrating.

They're bound to send the update over your wireless automatically, eventually. Or the next one, whichever comes first.

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RockyIII · 03-29-2017, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AxlVanHagar

Hmmm...I can't seem to get this to work for me. Clearly I'm doing something wrong but I'm damned if I can figure out what. I've downloaded the file and transferred it onto a USB but can't get the player to update itself. The file is on the drive but the player doesn't seem to be seeing it. Frustrating.

Did you unzip the file first?

AxlVanHagar · 03-30-2017, 01:54 AM

Got it working now. Not sure what was up but whatever it was seems to be fixed. Update applied and working now. Thanks for posting it!

Ulises_CM · 03-31-2017, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Patsfan123

Here is the link to UBD-K8500 1010.1 firmware.

Mirror #2 here

Thank you very much, gracias.

Caesu · 03-31-2017, 08:15 PM

Out of curiosity, which is the generally preferred hookup. Using a direct HDMI connection to the TV and a second HDMI to the receiver for audio from the player. Or running the player hdmi video out to the receiver and have another cable output from the receiver end to the tv?

waff · 03-31-2017, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Caesu

Out of curiosity, which is the generally preferred hookup. Using a direct HDMI connection to the TV and a second HDMI to the receiver for audio from the player. Or running the player hdmi video out to the receiver and have another cable output from the receiver end to the tv?

I've had both... I definitely prefer player->receiver->tv if your chain can support it. Without it (i.e. HDMI 2 to receiver), your don't see any information from the receiver, like volume and input info.

Quality wise, it is identical.

Caesu · 03-31-2017, 08:37 PM

Thanks for the quick reply. I always went the receiver route, was wondering if there was a tanglible PQ difference. I guess it's more for compatability etc.

RockyIII · 04-01-2017, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Caesu

Thanks for the quick reply. I always went the receiver route, was wondering if there was a tanglible PQ difference. I guess it's more for compatability etc.

Just make sure you disable receiver's video upscaler

rroeder · 04-01-2017, 03:09 PM

I had mine hooked up thru the receiver before but was getting bad audio sync issues from disc to disc, so used the HDMI 2 connection to the receiver and it seems to be better. Still use the audio delay adj on the receiver sometimes tho

My receiver passes 4K HDR but I don't think it will pass Dolby vision when it comes out, it's a 2015 Pioneer SC95

03-26-2017, 02:03 AM	#4781
MovieBuff02 Junior Member Member since:Mar 2017	KS8000 owners- anybody else experiencing these blotches/noise in dark areas?

03-26-2017, 04:55 AM	#4782
StingingVelvet Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Jan 2014 Location:Philadelphia, PA 4K collection:851 Blu-ray collection:2331 DVD collection:111 Digital collection:12 Trading Score:69	Looks like compression that would normally be hidden in blacks. Might your black level be too high, or maybe another setting making them more obvious than they should be? What movie is that?

03-26-2017, 05:05 AM	#4783
Mark1L Banned Member since:Mar 2017	I will hold out for the PS4 option myself. At least I can use a blue tooth controller. http://www.tykeanimal.com

03-26-2017, 07:29 PM	#4788
StingingVelvet Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Jan 2014 Location:Philadelphia, PA 4K collection:851 Blu-ray collection:2331 DVD collection:111 Digital collection:12 Trading Score:69	Yeah I just assumed he meant a UHD disc for obvious reasons. Not the thread to complain about cable compression, which is terrible.

03-26-2017, 07:39 PM	#4789
RockyIII Blu-ray Baron Member since:Feb 2016 Location:Miami, Fl Trading Score:25	Totally off topic

03-28-2017, 05:12 PM	#4790
Patsfan123 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Boston, MA 4K collection:1261 Blu-ray collection:5581 DVD collection:22 MA collection:3 Digital collection:491 iTunes collection:1493 Prime collection:276 Trading Score:6	So I've been watching movies on my Philips BDP7501 in place of the K8500 and the HDR colors/contrast/brightness look basically identical to me. Or at least there isn't a jarring difference. The advantage of the BDP7501 is that it has a great info display that tells you the bitrate/codec/colorspace/chroma of both the source and what it's HDMI output is & no red smeary chroma error. Disadvantages of the Philips are it will only output 8 bit or 12 bit for UHD & the overall GUI on the Samsung is nicer and tells you what disc is in the tray.

03-30-2017, 01:54 AM	#4794
AxlVanHagar Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Niagara Falls Canada Blu-ray collection:779	Got it working now. Not sure what was up but whatever it was seems to be fixed. Update applied and working now. Thanks for posting it!

03-31-2017, 08:15 PM	#4796
Caesu Special Member Member since:Jan 2010 Blu-ray collection:532 Blu-ray reviews:16	Out of curiosity, which is the generally preferred hookup. Using a direct HDMI connection to the TV and a second HDMI to the receiver for audio from the player. Or running the player hdmi video out to the receiver and have another cable output from the receiver end to the tv?

03-31-2017, 08:37 PM	#4798
Caesu Special Member Member since:Jan 2010 Blu-ray collection:532 Blu-ray reviews:16	Thanks for the quick reply. I always went the receiver route, was wondering if there was a tanglible PQ difference. I guess it's more for compatability etc.

04-01-2017, 03:09 PM	#4800
rroeder Special Member Member since:Mar 2011	I had mine hooked up thru the receiver before but was getting bad audio sync issues from disc to disc, so used the HDMI 2 connection to the receiver and it seems to be better. Still use the audio delay adj on the receiver sometimes tho My receiver passes 4K HDR but I don't think it will pass Dolby vision when it comes out, it's a 2015 Pioneer SC95

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