Sony "Mastered in 4K" Blu-ray Titles May 14 and July 16 - Page 70 - Blu-ray Forum

Tech-UK · 06-03-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

I thought it was only the Sony players for now and a few panasonics

Pioneers too.

Tech-UK · 06-03-2013, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tech-UK

From looking at the specs and manual, it seems that the BDP-93 does not support x.v.Color. Deep colour at 30 or 36-bit is a different feature.

Looking at the new Oppo's, it seems they do not support it either. Could anyone confirm this?

Post from the Oppo thread:

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Originally Posted by Tech-UK

Do the line of Oppo players up to and including the 105 support xvYCC?

Reply from JohnAV, Oppo beta tester.

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Originally Posted by JohnAV

No.

Pieter V · 06-03-2013, 08:45 PM

Taxi Driver Blu-ray vs 4K Blu-ray:

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...D=1705#auswahl

Another worthless upgrade.

HD Goofnut · 06-03-2013, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieter V

Taxi Driver Blu-ray vs 4K Blu-ray:

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...D=1705#auswahl

Another worthless upgrade.

Agreed. The difference is negligible at best. The only reasons anyone should purchase the titles other than Ghostbusters, Glory, and Spider-man is if they have a display/player that can support the expanded color or if they own a 4K display, but then again they'll still need a player that upconverts to 4K.

42041 · 06-03-2013, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Agreed. The difference is negligible at best. The only reasons anyone should purchase the titles other than Ghostbusters, Glory, and Spider-man is if they have a display/player that can support the expanded color or if they own a 4K display, but then again they'll still need a player that upconverts to 4K.

Or if you don't own the original discs and don't care about extras.
If I didn't already own Taxi Driver, I would be on this, as the compression looks perceptibly better to me.

blu-ray_girl_fan · 06-03-2013, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Agreed. The difference is negligible at best. The only reasons anyone should purchase the titles other than Ghostbusters, Glory, and Spider-man is if they have a display/player that can support the expanded color or if they own a 4K display, but then again they'll still need a player that upconverts to 4K.

Hm, they made the 4K transfer slightly narrower.

HD Goofnut · 06-03-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 42041

Or if you don't own the original discs and don't care about extras.
If I didn't already own Taxi Driver, I would be on this, as the compression looks perceptibly better to me.

In motion? Chances are you'd never notice the difference.

42041 · 06-03-2013, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

In motion? Chances are you'd never notice the difference.

Compression stuff is usually more apparent in motion, from my experience, as the eye can better distinguish compression noise and image detail. There are a number of spots in the original disc where I feel the compression isn't quite up to the task of rendering the grain cleanly.

Of course, if your viewing environment doesn't allow you to see those low-level details, then I'm sure it'll be a wash.

mrpink134 · 06-03-2013, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieter V

Taxi Driver Blu-ray vs 4K Blu-ray:

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...D=1705#auswahl

Another worthless upgrade.

LOL so which titles should someone get in the new cash grab opps I mean the new Sony 4K Master Blu rays

rickah88 · 06-03-2013, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Agreed. The difference is negligible at best. The only reasons anyone should purchase the titles other than Ghostbusters, Glory, and Spider-man is if they have a display/player that can support the expanded color or if they own a 4K display, but then again they'll still need a player that upconverts to 4K.

Again I would add Angels & Demons to that list. To my eyes, after previewing several scenes, going back/forth, most, if not all, the night/dark scenes were noticeably improved.
But I would draw the line at those 4 releases. If you're a bonus content enthusiast, and can afford it, I would recommend all 4 of them as upgrades. I kept my old releases for the extras, and combined each one in a dual-disc amaray, kept the original sleeve and used the 4k slipcover. That way I still have all the package info at a glance, AND being Sony there is interior art on almost all their releases(small, but a nice perk IMO).

dvdmike · 06-03-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

In motion? Chances are you'd never notice the difference.

Bad compression is the enemy of motion....

Taxi Driver is a pointless upgrade, Glory Ghostbusters and Spider-man are not

blu-ray_girl_fan · 06-04-2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentxStatik24

I dont think I can wait lol

The Sony SaveStation titles will be Buy 1 Get 1 Free starting on Sunday. Wait a few days for Taxi Driver.

Deciazulado · 06-04-2013, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wesslan

A new batch of 4k movies is on the way on 5 sep in Germany. This is only the new ones:

Pineapple Express (4K Remastered Edition)
The art of winning - Moneyball (4K Remastered Edition)
Godzilla (4K Remastered Edition)
Illuminati (4K Remastered Edition)
Men in Black (4K Remastered Edition)
Spider-Man 2 (4K Remastered Edition)

Godzilla should be fun

Seems some may be up for pre-order for July 16, tho Amazon is not specifying anything at the moment:

Godzilla Blu-ray

Men in Black Blu-ray

Moneyball Blu-ray

Pineapple Express Blu-ray

Spider-Man 2 Blu-ray

btw, people's reactions are fantastic. They make slightly improved quality versions and instead of being happy people react strangely. Reminds me of the reaction when VHSers faced with LDs, LDs faced DVDs, CDs faced SACDs and DVD-As, DVDs & HD-DVDs faced BDs. The more things change...

MifuneFan · 06-04-2013, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Deciazulado

btw, people's reactions are fantastic. They make slightly improved quality versions and instead of being happy people react strangely. Reminds me of the reaction when VHSers faced with LDs, LDs faced DVDs, CDs faced SACDs and DVD-As, DVDs & HD-DVDs faced BDs. The more things change...

It's a double-edged sword though. You get better picture (sometimes only marginal) but you're also sacrificing the extras found on the previous release for it. That's not always an easy decision to make for people.

I'm positive, if the Mastered in 4K releases had all the extras of the previous releases, there wouldn't be as much complaining.

Deciazulado · 06-04-2013, 05:40 PM

Or both cuts of a film? :0

HD Goofnut · 06-04-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Deciazulado

Or both cuts of a film? :0

Yeah, it was wrong that Sony did that with Total Recall.

blu-ray_girl_fan · 06-04-2013, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Yeah, it was wrong that Sony did that with Total Recall.

Watch Spider-Man 2 drop the 2.1 extended cut as well.

JavaJulien · 06-04-2013, 06:45 PM

Seriously. some transfers like Taxi Driver got criticized for not being a big enough difference, but for the most part, the complaints have been entirely over the lack of special features.

Dragun · 06-04-2013, 06:47 PM

If there's enough space left over after increasing the bitrate for the feature, they should include the commentary tracks on the feature disc and the other features on another disc. I don't know how much space commentary tracks generally take up, but they don't need to be lossless.

Deciazulado · 06-04-2013, 06:50 PM

Maybe the extended cut edits were not done at the 4K level

(of course any video junkie worth its salt could edit-in those parts) but then the slipcover couldn't say mastered from 4K could it

The lack of extras when there's space may be a creme-de la creme only in the disc marketing decision.
(Seems not very popular)

06-03-2013, 08:45 PM	#1383
Pieter V Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:The Netherlands Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:14	Taxi Driver Blu-ray vs 4K Blu-ray: http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...D=1705#auswahl Another worthless upgrade.

06-04-2013, 05:40 PM	#1395
Deciazulado Site Manager Top contributor Member since:Aug 2006 Location:USiberia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:1160 Blu-ray collection:7048 DVD collection:4045	Or both cuts of a film? :0

06-04-2013, 06:45 PM	#1398
JavaJulien Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Tallahassee, Fl Blu-ray collection:155 DVD collection:4 Digital collection:4 Trading Score:16	Seriously. some transfers like Taxi Driver got criticized for not being a big enough difference, but for the most part, the complaints have been entirely over the lack of special features.

06-04-2013, 06:47 PM	#1399
Dragun Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2010 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:114 Blu-ray collection:857 Trading Score:1	If there's enough space left over after increasing the bitrate for the feature, they should include the commentary tracks on the feature disc and the other features on another disc. I don't know how much space commentary tracks generally take up, but they don't need to be lossless.

06-04-2013, 06:50 PM	#1400
Deciazulado Site Manager Top contributor Member since:Aug 2006 Location:USiberia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:1160 Blu-ray collection:7048 DVD collection:4045	Maybe the extended cut edits were not done at the 4K level (of course any video junkie worth its salt could edit-in those parts) but then the slipcover couldn't say mastered from 4K could it The lack of extras when there's space may be a creme-de la creme only in the disc marketing decision. (Seems not very popular)

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