Sony "Mastered in 4K" Blu-ray Titles May 14 and July 16 - Page 89 - Blu-ray Forum

HD Goofnut · 07-15-2013, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by I KEEL YOU

When it's done right, I think that 1080p can look PHENOMENAL. I haven't seen 4K with my own eyes yet, but from what I can gather, people who have seen it don't seem to think that the difference is all that big.

Studios should concentrate on bringing the best possible picture quality to 1080p rather than talk focus on 4K.

The first step should be to create a 4K DI for every new release that is higher than 2K natively. That would save the studios work and money down the road. Apparently, Sony are the only ones that I have thought that far ahead.

Tornado Red · 07-15-2013, 02:08 PM

I saw the 65" Sony 4k on Saturday, the Sony provided clips I thought were impressive. The picture is certainly better than 1080p Blu-ray IMO, but 2 million pixels vs 8 million, it didn't look 4 times better to me. Problem is, nothing to play on it that's true 4k yet. Chicken or the egg I guess. It's just the next big thing I believe to get us to spend our HT money on, think they've wrung all they can get out of 3D Blu-ray. After I got home, I realized that as colorful as the clips were, I don't recall seeing anything "black". Long the bane of LED/LCD vs plasma, I wonder, where the Sony 4k set is LED, if there is still an issue with blacks? And to take that a step further, anyone hear of Panasonic or someone else trying to do 4K plasma displays?

HeavyHitter · 07-15-2013, 02:38 PM

When can we expect word on the next batch of "4K" titles?

TheShape31 · 07-15-2013, 02:46 PM

I was looking forward to the remastered Pineapple Express tomorrow, but it was just indefinitely delayed. Has anyone else heard anything more about this?

MisterXDTV · 07-15-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

The first step should be to create a 4K DI for every new release that is higher than 2K natively. That would save the studios work and money down the road. Apparently, Sony are the only ones that I have thought that far ahead.

The majority of movies are still finished at 2K because of the CGI, so I don't think 4K is going to be as important as Blu-Ray is right now...

Blu Myers · 07-15-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheShape31

I was looking forward to the remastered Pineapple Express tomorrow, but it was just indefinitely delayed. Has anyone else heard anything more about this?

Weird, because Godzilla is getting the same release date, and Amazon shipped mine already.

HD Goofnut · 07-15-2013, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

The majority of movies are still finished at 2K because of the CGI, so I don't think 4K is going to be as important as Blu-Ray is right now...

Majority of movies? I think not. There are literally thousands of films that were made before CGI (which debuted in TRON in 1982). I indeed was referring to new releases in my previous post, but there are still plenty of those along with catalog titles that have little to no CGI.

MisterXDTV · 07-15-2013, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Majority of movies? I think not. There are literally thousands of films that were made before CGI (which debuted in TRON in 1982). I indeed was referring to new releases in my previous post, but there are still plenty of those along with catalog titles that have little to no CGI.

Majority Of Movies in the Last 10 years and still now... Many Older Movies that were shot on low budget cameras can't even reach true 4K detail...

MisterXDTV · 07-15-2013, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheShape31

I was looking forward to the remastered Pineapple Express tomorrow, but it was just indefinitely delayed. Has anyone else heard anything more about this?

Delayed by 15 days: new link:
http://www.amazon.com/Pineapple-Expr...mastered+in+4k

HD Goofnut · 07-15-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

Majority Of Movies in the Last 10 years and still now... Many Older Movies that were shot on low budget cameras can't even reach true 4K detail...

The definition of majority is 50% or greater so you might want to keep that in mind.

What are you talking about? Virtually all older films were shot in 35mm. The actual resolution of 35mm is slightly more than digital 4K.

MisterXDTV · 07-15-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

The definition of majority is 50% or greater so you might want to keep that in mind.

What are you talking about? Virtually all older films were shot in 35mm. The actual resolution of 35mm is slightly more than digital 4K.

You are talking about the best possibile 35mm negative in perfect conditions: in the analog/film world Ks are not science, there are many things that can affect the picture quality. Take "Predator" for example, you can scan it at 16K but the amount of detail in the picture is still about 720p or so...

HD Goofnut · 07-15-2013, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

You are talking about the best possibile 35mm negative in perfect conditions: in the analog/film world Ks are not science, there are many things that can affect the picture quality. Take "Predator" for example, you can scan it at 16K but the amount of detail in the picture is still about 720p or so...

I disagree concerning Predator. The 2008 release actually looks good for a 1987 film. It just needs a more recent scan with AVC instead of MPEG-2.

starman15317 · 07-15-2013, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by blu-ray_girl_fan

Oops.

MisterXDTV · 07-15-2013, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I disagree concerning Predator. The 2008 release actually looks good for a 1987 film. It just needs a more recent scan with AVC instead of MPEG-2.

I agree with you but you can't change the fact that it was shot on low budget camera stock... I still have the 2008 edition too

rickah88 · 07-15-2013, 03:53 PM

Just got my shipping email, from Amazon, for Godzilla & Spiderman 2
Looking forward to the next wave of title announcements.

42041 · 07-15-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

Majority Of Movies in the Last 10 years and still now... Many Older Movies that were shot on low budget cameras can't even reach true 4K detail...

What is a "low budget camera"

Older movies were shot on film. They were are shot on the same sorts of film regardless of budget (if we restrict ourselves to 35mm shows anyway). Shooting high resolution imagery is not budget-intensive.

blu-ray_girl_fan · 07-15-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 42041

What is a "low budget camera"

He probably means movies shot with 8mm or 16mm equipment.

MisterXDTV · 07-15-2013, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 42041

What is a "low budget camera"

Older movies were shot on film. They were are shot on the same sorts of film regardless of budget (if we restrict ourselves to 35mm shows anyway). Shooting high resolution imagery is not budget-intensive.

35mm film stock and cameras are not all the same... In the '80s a lot of movies were shot cheap....

HD Goofnut · 07-15-2013, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

35mm film stock and cameras are not all the same... In the '80s a lot of movies were shot cheap....

Well, sure and this usually means grainier footage, but the resolution should still be the same. 35mm is 35mm.

TheShape31 · 07-15-2013, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

Delayed by 15 days: new link:
http://www.amazon.com/Pineapple-Expr...mastered+in+4k

Thanks so much! Looks like the old item page is no good anymore, so I just cancelled the old pre-order. Now I just have to find something to bundle with it for FSSS.

07-15-2013, 02:08 PM	#1762
Tornado Red Active Member Member since:Oct 2011 Location:Winnipeg, Canada Home Theater Gallery:33 4K collection:167 Blu-ray collection:662 DVD collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:3	I saw the 65" Sony 4k on Saturday, the Sony provided clips I thought were impressive. The picture is certainly better than 1080p Blu-ray IMO, but 2 million pixels vs 8 million, it didn't look 4 times better to me. Problem is, nothing to play on it that's true 4k yet. Chicken or the egg I guess. It's just the next big thing I believe to get us to spend our HT money on, think they've wrung all they can get out of 3D Blu-ray. After I got home, I realized that as colorful as the clips were, I don't recall seeing anything "black". Long the bane of LED/LCD vs plasma, I wonder, where the Sony 4k set is LED, if there is still an issue with blacks? And to take that a step further, anyone hear of Panasonic or someone else trying to do 4K plasma displays?

07-15-2013, 02:38 PM	#1763
HeavyHitter Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Home Theater Gallery:4 Trading Score:154	When can we expect word on the next batch of "4K" titles?

07-15-2013, 02:46 PM	#1764
TheShape31 Senior Member Member since:Jun 2010	I was looking forward to the remastered Pineapple Express tomorrow, but it was just indefinitely delayed. Has anyone else heard anything more about this?

07-15-2013, 03:53 PM	#1775
rickah88 Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Columbia, MD 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Trading Score:93	Just got my shipping email, from Amazon, for Godzilla & Spiderman 2 Looking forward to the next wave of title announcements.

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