Poll: Should Sony use DTS-HD Master Audio or Dolby TrueHD?

[turboLAZER]

here's my idea for a poll,

For Close Encounters of the Third Kind, which audio track do you use?

1) DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 english
2) Dolby TrueHD 5.1 english


next poll,

Can you hear a difference between the DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 and the Dolby TrueHD 5.1 on Close Encounters of the Third Kind?

1) Yes
2) No


For the people who answer NO to the second poll, how do you decide which lossless track to use?

[Damage Inc.]

Originally Posted by turboLAZER

here's my idea for a poll,

For Close Encounters of the Third Kind, which audio track do you use?

1) DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 english
2) Dolby TrueHD 5.1 english


next poll,

Can you hear a difference between the DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 and the Dolby TrueHD 5.1 on Close Encounters of the Third Kind?

1) Yes
2) No


For the people who answer NO to the second poll, how do you decide which lossless track to use?

Look, there must also be a distinct "sound" to the tracks.
Which I've pretty much asked a couple of times bot gotten no answer to that.
And what I mean by that is, a sound apart from the quality itself.
For example that usually DTS would sound louder or fuller than Dolby.
You know what I mean, like with different instruments of the same type they have a different sound.
Just like these recording/engineering-types probably have different technologies.

That's another aspect to look at for choosing a specific type of audio.
Sure, it also depends on what people (also productions) use and how they set every thing up.
But it starts with the source.

For this part, if I had to pick answers in your poll:
The first would probably be the DTS-version for that particular films big sound-effects.
I do not have either an HD-amp or the film yet, the latter is ordered though.
But anyway, my experience with the DVD-equivalents is that I love the sound of DTS.

The second answer I wouldn't know at this moment.
But if there is a difference in SOUND present, then I would have to hear that first to choose which.
If it's the same difference pretty much as with the DVD-equivalents, again DTS.
Consumers in general might not hear a big difference in quality, the more experienced people maybe a little.

[markjdye]

Quit paying royalties to Dolby and DTS. Go back to the first Blu-rays and make everything from here on out Uncompressed PCM. The price of Blu-rays would go down and you'd get the best unmessed-with sound.

[CrazyEightyNine]

I don't understand the significance of using one over the other. If both are lossless, shouldn't they technically be the same? I would understand however if one format was larger in size or one format presented better quality, but I was told it doesn't matter because they are lossless.

[Marcuslaw]

Regardless of what anyone says, to the untrained listener, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA sound identical. IMHO, only a well trained audio engineer can detect the difference between them. For what it's worth, and admittedly I could very well be easily fooled in a blind test, I prefer PCM over either of them.

[Damage Inc.]

Well, íf PCM is the best quality and most "transparent" audio-type, then they should all go with that.
Even then they still have Dolby and DTS as options, if a studio/filmmaker etc. would prefer that.
I'd hate to put any company, such as Dolby and DTS, out of business with their home-video-audio.

By the way, up until recently I didn't know PCM was a format.
Well, I knew of it, but didn't place it as a audio-format on home-video.
I guess it's more of a general format rather than a company's format right?
Or is it Sony's or something? I'll research anyway...

[chriharr]

DTS HD-MA has better backwards compatability that = WIN

[toneloctr]

Doesnt matter to me as long as its got lossless.

[Acierator]

My Sony BDP-S1E can only decode Dolby TrueHD, so that's what I prefer along with PCM. I don't use a AV receiver as a decoder so I'm bound by the specs of my machine. Many early BD players don't support DTS-HD MA so why should the early adopters get screwed?

[Damage Inc.]

Originally Posted by Acierator

My Sony BDP-S1E can only decode Dolby TrueHD, so that's what I prefer along with PCM. I don't use a AV receiver as a decoder so I'm bound by the specs of my machine. Many early BD players don't support DTS-HD MA so why should the early adopters get screwed?

IF anything would change in audio-formats on BD, it would be later anyway.
By the time that most general players would support DTS too.
I've seen even the cheapest and oldest DVD-players support DTS, so don't worry about that.


BY THE WAY:

Why not actually keep both or would that already just compromise space?
That way it makes it quite a special feature too, as people can pick what they like.
Unless they prefer PCM, but I don't think they'd all start to use all three.

[RiseDarthVader]

Originally Posted by Marcuslaw

Regardless of what anyone says, to the untrained listener, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA sound identical. IMHO, only a well trained audio engineer can detect the difference between them. For what it's worth, and admittedly I could very well be easily fooled in a blind test, I prefer PCM over either of them.

Well those audio engineers you speak of have seen PCM, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA and their wavelengths are identical.

[Steelmaker]

DTS-HD MA all the way for me! Like others have said, it has a higher degree of clarity, dynamics, and overall punch to it's sound! Literally every blu ray I own with DTS-HD MA sounds superior to my blu rays with Dolby True HD.

[CYMBOL]

I like PCM - then DTS HD/MA, then True HD.

Also, before I got my receiver that decoded lossless I was always hoping my favorite movies would have DTS HD for the 1.5 core.

Since studios don't seem to be using PCM anymore - my next choice would be DTS HD/MA.

[acen01947]

I voted OTHER. Why?

If ALL of the studios pressed a Blu-ray disc like The Final Countdown, there would be no need for a poll. Reason: BOTH loss less audios are present.

So for those that like MA, have at it; for those that like TrueHD, you get to enjoy your audio craving as well.

Choosing sides is not a good idea when both can be had at the same time.

Unless there is an ulterior motive behind this...one dominant audio codec.

And since all things revolve around money, what good is a dominant audio codec when someone will come along and offer a competing codec (gee, aren't we already at this plateau)?

Let there be choice and make both (all) available. Blu-ray can support it,
amen.

[Lucy Diamond]

I'm for ONE lossless codec and it should have been PCM.

This isn't so much of an issue now that all the new players decode everything, but this could have saved a bunch of people a headache.

[tez69]

Leave things the way they are or include both.Alot of folks in both camps for whatever reasons they have.

[haste]

i dont care which one

[Damage Inc.]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

DTS-HD MA all the way for me! Like others have said, it has a higher degree of clarity, dynamics, and overall punch to it's sound! Literally every blu ray I own with DTS-HD MA sounds superior to my blu rays with Dolby True HD.

It's really unfortunate that titles such as 'Batman Begins' and 'The Dark Knight' don't have DTS...
Especially the latter has some of the most impressive and explosive audio,
it would benefit from DTS without a doubt.
When the Joker and also the banker fired their shotguns, I was actually "frightened", just awesome.
In a quality cinema that was, I have yet to see 'The Dark Knight' on my BD.

[Grifter02]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

DTS-HD MA all the way for me! Like others have said, it has a higher degree of clarity, dynamics, and overall punch to it's sound! Literally every blu ray I own with DTS-HD MA sounds superior to my blu rays with Dolby True HD.

Originally Posted by Damage Inc.

It's really unfortunate that titles such as 'Batman Begins' and 'The Dark Knight' don't have DTS...
Especially the latter has some of the most impressive and explosive audio,
it would benefit from DTS without a doubt.
When the Joker and also the banker fired their shotguns, I was actually "frightened", just awesome.
In a quality cinema that was, I have yet to see 'The Dark Knight' on my BD.

Wow, so many uniformed people on this forum. What do you tools not understand about the definition of the word "lossless"??? There is no loss, they DO NOT sound different!!! If you believe you notice a difference, it's because the movies that you're watching in DTS have better sound design than the movies you're comparing them to in TrueHD!!! NOT BECAUSE DTS IS BETTER!!!

[Damage Inc.]

Originally Posted by Grifter02

Wow, so many uniformed people on this forum. What do you tools not understand about the definition of the word "lossless"??? There is no loss, they DO NOT sound different!!! If you believe you notice a difference, it's because the movies that you're watching in DTS have better sound design than the movies you're comparing them to in TrueHD!!! NOT BECAUSE DTS IS BETTER!!!

Like someone said before, that the sizes of the audio-formats on the disc are different.
I can find something in that, there must be more compression on one than the other.
I'm NOT saying this is true, but if they're not the same size one could probably not be truly lossless.
But there could just be a difference in the way they're engineered, the size-difference I mean.

Besides, DTS apparently DOES still sound different, if you don't speak about quality.
But the SOUND, it's obviously stronger and more dynamic since most people describe it that way.
So they do SOUND different, regardless of the quality.

They can CALL something "lossless", but don't believe everything they say.
It's like putting a label on anything and make people believe it's that.
(Now I'm not saying that Dolby "lies" or anything, but you get the point.)


Sure, cover it up Grubert, now you make us look equal.
He's the aggressive one here, I was just being "thankful" to him for insulting us.