Poll: Should Sony use DTS-HD Master Audio or Dolby TrueHD?

[elks86]

I'm a DTS guy so DTS-MA is the best sound possible for any studio to use. I'm just glad that there are more studios using DTS-MA exclusively than Dolby truehd.

[cajmoyper]

Originally Posted by Scorxpion

Ok agreed here because i have it at home and watched it couple times in my home theater.We are not saying Dolby-THD is trash but DTSHD master audio is a little bit better for many reasons already explained in this thread.

let me ask you this question if Underworld the third part was released simultaneously into two different copies one with Dolby-THD and one with DTSHD master audio which one you will buy?

as for me i will choose blindly DTSHD master Audio.Or what if next year Sony released this movie in DTSHD master audio you are mad or not.


For me DTSHD master audio is better and it is shown clearly here in this thread among different opinions and Poll.

Thanks

Numbers and bitrates don't mean a damn bit of nothing when you're just sitting and listening. I don't need a lossy track because I'm set with lossless and the fact is that I've been more impressed with more TrueHD tracks than DTS HD's. I am by no means saying that DTS is bad or even that TrueHD is better, I'm just saying that there is no reason to prefer one over the other. As has been said time and again in this thread, lossless is lossless.

[darkblueme]

[saprano]

Originally Posted by cajmoyper

As has been said time and again in this thread, lossless is lossless.

Im tired of hearing that, its getting annoying. enough with the damn lossless is lossless crap. we know!

[cajmoyper]

Originally Posted by saprano

Im tired of hearing that, its getting annoying. enough with the damn lossless is lossless crap. we know!

Fine, I'm done with it but to the guy above you, when has anyone seen even an uncompressed track max out at 25 mb/s? That's a misleading chart.

[Scorxpion]

Originally Posted by cajmoyper

Numbers and bitrates don't mean a damn bit of nothing when you're just sitting and listening. I don't need a lossy track because I'm set with lossless and the fact is that I've been more impressed with more TrueHD tracks than DTS HD's. I am by no means saying that DTS is bad or even that TrueHD is better, I'm just saying that there is no reason to prefer one over the other. As has been said time and again in this thread, lossless is lossless.

Ok Fine,but you haven't specifically answered my question which one will choose if you have the option among the two lossless surround for the first time.your setup is installed and you have invested but what about others who can't afford to buy simultaneously Blu-ray Player,High Def TV and AVR the latest one which can decode everything.Again the most important factor is when using DTSHD master audio versus Dolby TrueHD doesn't take too much space from BD and no compromise maybe for the PQ and SQ overall.
TOO many of us still have old receivers and not willing to invest for a new one,Sure in US you can find the cheapest and the affordable one but what about Europe and other regions,I'll give an example here in middle east where i live AVR who decodes everything cost around $1500 and It is a Yamaha receiver.

Thanks God my receiver has HDMI built in where i can decode Lossless sound internally inside my PS3 or My new Panasonic player BD-35 which cost me $550 because i return back Sony-BDP S350 for its incapability of Decoding DTSHD master audio just bitstreaming it.

Yes i agree about 30 days of night,Transformers,The dark Knight does include an outstanding surround track but i think if it was DTSHD master audio maybe it was slightly better and tasty

Lossless is Lossless doesn’t exist in my dictionary always I prefer one over another.

At the end, today I owned Body Of Lies and it is Dolby TrueHD and I hope can I enjoy it as Ken brown said in his review here. “be caution not to watch it at night if someone is sleeping and dreaming”

Regards to all,

[JAC6]

Any lossless is fine by me.

[Scorxpion]

Originally Posted by cajmoyper

Fine, I'm done with it but to the guy above you, when has anyone seen even an uncompressed track max out at 25 mb/s? That's a misleading chart.

Go to dtsonline.com kindly and see it if it is misleading chart

or here:

http://www.dts.com/Technology/DTS-HD...S-HD_Work.aspx

and click on DTSHD brochure

[Scorxpion]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

My fault. I just noticed your location in the world and didn't realize that English was not your first language.

No problem.
If I could write half as well in a foreign language as you do, I would be the better man for it.

Thank you very much for your kindness and you are always the Penton Man.

Thank you

[cajmoyper]

Scorxpion, first of all, I wouldn't buy that terrible movie but if I had the choice and I was high, I would just pick one up off the shelf blindly. My point is I don't care what it comes with. You want me to go to a DTS website and see if it's better than something Dolby? Now that doesn't make too much sense.

[GLaDOS]

I don't really care for what Sony should use, be it PCM, TrueHD, or DTS-HD MA. They're both good, and I'm glad Sony put them all on the map.

[blu2]

My comment would be that Sony should do whatever makes economic/business sence for them.

Side me with lossless=lossless.

[Siri]

Doesn't really make a difference to me, as long as it is lossless then I am happy

[zweet77]

While when I first got into this hobby Dts and pcm always seemed to sound better especially New line releases but any more I think its all about the mix and not the encode.there have been tons of totally awesome Dolby tracks lately (The Dark Knight, Nightmare before Christmas etc.)The track for Star Trek Season One was kinda of let down for me,the dialog was way to muted and that was a Dts track But that again was probably more to do with the mix.Just give me a bit for bit copy of a a quality dynamic mix and I am happy.

[Octavio]

Dolby TrueHD is fine to me. Some of the best audio tracks I've ever heard are on Dolby TrueHD: Transformers, Cloverfield, The Nightmare Before Christmas, TDK, Blade Runner (for an "oldie" its a KO!), I Am Legend, Indiana Jones, Kung Fu Panda, The Matrix, Run Lola Run, Spiderman Trilogy, Beowulf, etc.

[Clark Kent]

Both formats are fine with me, as long as Sony provides the lossless audio at whatever bit depth and sampling frequency the studio master is at. It is my understanding most modern films' audio masters are at 24 bit 48 kHz and that is what should be presented on the Blu-ray. Downsampling to 16 bit audio disappoints me after all the money I have spent on the best audio setup possible.

If Sony does continue to use Dolby TrueHD, please disengage the use of dialnorm in the studio's encoder on every release. Leaving this to the default position that the Dolby encoder comes with is what leads many people to conclude that DTS-HD MA sounds inherently better than Dolby TrueHD. Most people are not going to properly level-match soundtracks.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by cajmoyper

Fine, I'm done with it but to the guy above you, when has anyone seen even an uncompressed track max out at 25 mb/s? That's a misleading chart.

The highest i've seen DTS-MA go was 13mbps. it jumps that high durring the new DTS intro that plays before a movie begins. i've never seen dolbyTrueHD go pass 5mbps. i've noticed this with alot of movies. DTS easily goes to 6 or 7 even in scenes where theres not much action. and when there is it goes beyond that. with DTHD it always seems like its struggling to go that high and it never does. i dont know if this makes DTS better than dolby but this is what i noticed.

Originally Posted by Scorxpion

Go to dtsonline.com kindly and see it if it is misleading chart

or here:

http://www.dts.com/Technology/DTS-HD...S-HD_Work.aspx

and click on DTSHD brochure

Of course they would say that.

Originally Posted by cajmoyper

You want me to go to a DTS website and see if it's better than something Dolby? Now that doesn't make too much sense.

[Jeff Kleist]

The highest i've seen DTS-MA go was 13mbps. it jumps that high durring the new DTS intro that plays before a movie begins. i've never seen dolbyTrueHD go pass 5mbps.

The highest rate lossless track is Akira, which frequenty bumps above 15 due to the 192/24 track.

The average DTHD and DTS Master track come in somewhere between high 3 and mid-4mpbs on average for 48/24. Those numbers are meaningless when it comes to movies or even high end audio applications.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyOJack

I don't see a poll, but I say NO!

DTS will occasionally master some of their tracks a little hot, and almost all of them are 4dB louder than the original master. I feel like the bass gets a little boomy with some of the hot recordings as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McAeQ...eature=related

DTS doesn't do anything to any dtsma soundtrack. a guy doesn't come in while the movie is being mixed by the studios and say...."ummm you want to make that louder for me"

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

The highest rate lossless track is Akira, which frequenty bumps above 15 due to the 192/24 track.

The average DTHD and DTS Master track come in somewhere between high 3 and mid-4mpbs on average for 48/24. Those numbers are meaningless when it comes to movies or even high end audio applications.

I know the average rates but i was talking peaks.