Poll: Should Sony use DTS-HD Master Audio or Dolby TrueHD?

[saprano]

Originally Posted by trans22

This poll has been a waste of time by the look of things, NIGHT OF THE CREEPS has been announced on october 20th by SONY with DOLBY TRUEHD.

Who says they aren't swiching? as neo_reloaded said these things don't happen over night.

Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

Even if they don't switch, it certainly has shown how many misinformed people are out there...

Come on man

[ClaytonMG]

Originally Posted by saprano

Who says they aren't swiching? as neo_reloaded said these things don't happen over night.


Come on man

Come on man what? I'm sorry if you think an opinion is the same as a fact, but there are people in this thread claiming Dolby TrueHD is analog and DTS-HD MA is digital.

Yeah, I was way off base...

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by saprano

Come on man

If you believe that the same exact PCM MASTER encoded in both TrueHD and DTS-MA will sound "better" in DTS-MA then, yes, you're uninformed.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

If you believe that the same exact PCM MASTER encoded in both TrueHD and DTS-MA will sound "better" in DTS-MA then, yes, you're uninformed.

so are you saying
a) PCM, DTS MA, DTHD will be exactly the same on play back
b) PCM, DTS MA, DTHD will sound exactly the same on play back
c) DTS can't be better because DTHD is the best

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

so are you saying
a) PCM, DTS MA, DTHD will be exactly the same on play back
b) PCM, DTS MA, DTHD will sound exactly the same on play back
c) DTS can't be better because DTHD is the best

B of course, if they use the same exact master/mix. Were you expecting something else?

[Uncle Leo]

Originally Posted by BozQ

Does Dolby ever help sales?
Except for TrueHD but that's about it.

Oh please. The studios can hardly care about the deep technical specifics of anything themselves, lack alone Blu-ray. They don't give a toss whether the director wants to shoot with film or digital cameras. As long as it's within budget. They just give the producers the money, tells them to make a good film and return the money back in the form of box office tickets, and yes, DVDs and BDs. They represent money more than anything else.

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Actually, lately Producers, cast and crew have been expressing their FAVOR of HD cameras and equipment. The ease of play back and capture of accuracy helps. In the long run, once invested HD is and actually becomes cheaper. Indie film makers are now trying to budget for this more than ever.

As a Hi Def consumer, I have started to look at who is going digital and why are some movies looking so much better. Zodiac, Benjamin Button, Superbad, Knowing and Deja Vu just to name a few do not look so good cause of the transfer but because of the source. Thompson Viper digital camera. So yes the studio, because of this movement DO care!!

This article explains
http://moviechopshop.com/2009/06/30/...d-still-weird/

[BozQ]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

so are you saying
a) PCM, DTS MA, DTHD will be exactly the same on play back
b) PCM, DTS MA, DTHD will sound exactly the same on play back
c) DTS can't be better because DTHD is the best

C is a whole load of rubbish, and I think (or hope) most here knows why.
As for A and B, that is only if all three uses the same PCM master.

Originally Posted by Uncle Leo

Actually, lately Producers, cast and crew have been expressing their FAVOR of HD cameras and equipment. The ease of play back and capture of accuracy helps. In the long run, once invested HD is and actually becomes cheaper. Indie film makers are now trying to budget for this more than ever.

As a Hi Def consumer, I have started to look at who is going digital and why are some movies looking so much better. Zodiac, Benjamin Button, Superbad, Knowing and Deja Vu just to name a few do not look so good cause of the transfer but because of the source. Thompson Viper digital camera. So yes the studio, because of this movement DO care!!

This article explains
http://moviechopshop.com/2009/06/30/...d-still-weird/

You completely missed the point of my post.
Of course the producers care! They are the ones who gather all the money to produce the film. And they have to watch every single cent being spent.
It's the Executive Producers, the STUDIOS that I'm talking about that don't give a toss!

The person I was quoting earlier thought that the studios actually CARE about the sonics of a soundtrack, which I find it hardly true. The studios, if anything, only cares about their investments and returns in a film. And they will make certain choices as long as they're convinced it will bring them a significantlly higher amount of returns.

I have no reason to believe Sony in this case actually thinks they are offering a better quality soundtrack by encoding it in DTS-HD MA. If they were really concerned by offering the BEST audio soundtrack on Blu-ray, then they'd have easily ditched Dolby TrueHD RIGHT NOW and just release all future BDs in LPCM. There is ZERO licensing fees to be paid, there is ZERO amount of dollars to spend on either Dolby's or DTS' encoders. And the remaining disc space, even on a BD25 is more than enough to offer a killer video encode.

WHY do you think this thread was created? Of course to see if by investing in a DTS-HD Encoder and license, and releasing in DTS in the future will make their products more marketable to consumers. And the response to this thread? Quite remarkably in favor of DTS.

That is why my original response to this thread, to Sony was "just do it". This thread alone has proven that there are many people here who have been (sadly) fooled (by DTS nontheless) to believe that DTS equals better quality. And even though experts have already explained time and again, that TrueHD is exactly the same as Master Audio and LPCM, they still won't buy into it.

This arguement will sadly stick out like a blister forever. It is almost as disappointing as many people who believed 2.35 aspect ratio movies are 'smaller', and that they've been shortchanged after investing on that expensive HDTV, that expensive Blu-ray player, and the expensive Blu-ray movies itself.

[Skoobooz]

Quick note - Night of the Creeps will have DTS-HD MA instead of TrueHD. The story will be updated.

[cembros]

Originally Posted by Skoobooz

Quick note - Night of the Creeps will have DTS-HD MA instead of TrueHD. The story will be updated.

link??

[trans22]

Originally Posted by Skoobooz

Quick note - Night of the Creeps will have DTS-HD MA instead of TrueHD. The story will be updated.

where does it say that?

[Skoobooz]

No link. The story will be updated.

[cembros]

Originally Posted by Skoobooz

No link. The story will be updated.

what are you talking about, a lil info would be a good idea

[saprano]

Originally Posted by cembros

what are you talking about, a lil info would be a good idea

He's talking about this

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=6456

[ClaytonMG]

Originally Posted by saprano

He's talking about this

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=6456

... But where does he get the whole DTS-HD MA info from? He claimed the story would be changed.

[cembros]

Originally Posted by saprano

He's talking about this

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=6456

that says the movie will have a dolby true hd track, he said it will have dts

[Skoobooz]

And now it's updated.

[ClaytonMG]

Originally Posted by Skoobooz

And now it's updated.

Their story still says Dolby TrueHD though... In fact the other sites that I look at all say Dolby TrueHD. Where are you getting the information that it's DTS-HD MA? Did you send a message to a mod to let them know it'll be in DTS-HD MA so that they'd change the product information page?

I'm sorry but I'm not a fan of the way you're "informing" people and until I see more than the Blu-ray.com product page reporting that it's DTS-HD MA, I will continue to assume it's Dolby TrueHD. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying I am sceptical because of the way you're presenting the "information."

[Skoobooz]

Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

Their story still says Dolby TrueHD though... In fact the other sites that I look at all say Dolby TrueHD. Where are you getting the information that it's DTS-HD MA? Did you send a message to a mod to let them know it'll be in DTS-HD MA so that they'd change the product information page?

I'm sorry but I'm not a fan of the way you're "informing" people and until I see more than the Blu-ray.com product page reporting that it's DTS-HD MA, I will continue to assume it's Dolby TrueHD. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying I am sceptical because of the way you're presenting the "information."

From the Blu-ray.com article:

Update: 'Night of the Creeps' will feature a DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack vise the originally announced Dolby TrueHD soundtrack. We apologize for the error.

[trans22]

Originally Posted by Skoobooz

From the Blu-ray.com article:

Update: 'Night of the Creeps' will feature a DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack vise the originally announced Dolby TrueHD soundtrack. We apologize for the error.

your the man, i'm really happy SONY have changed to DTS.

[seigneur_rayden]

Originally Posted by Skoobooz

From the Blu-ray.com article:

Update: 'Night of the Creeps' will feature a DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack vise the originally announced Dolby TrueHD soundtrack. We apologize for the error.

sweet.