Poll: Should Sony use DTS-HD Master Audio or Dolby TrueHD? - Page 88 - Blu-ray Forum

Skoobooz · 08-11-2009, 03:44 PM

FYI - Year One will also have DTS-HD MA audio, not TrueHD. The article here at Blu-ray.com has been updated.

trans22 · 08-11-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Skoobooz

FYI - Year One will also have DTS-HD MA audio, not TrueHD. The article here at Blu-ray.com has been updated.

Fantastic news, hopefully SONY will release THE CRAFT with DTS the following week.

ClaytonMG · 08-11-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by trans22

Fantastic news, hopefully SONY will release THE CRAFT with DTS the following week.

Why is that fantastic news? In the other thread you said lossy is better than lossless and that the only difference you're hearing between the 2 lossless codecs is likely a difference in volume levels...

trans22 · 08-11-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

Why is that fantastic news? In the other thread you said lossy is better than lossless and that the only difference you're hearing between the 2 lossless codecs is likely a difference in volume levels...

I said i prefer DTS rather than DOLBY, as for prefering lossy audio that only applied to the SPIDERMAN 2 superbit dvd which i said i prefer the lossy DTS track compared to the DOLBY blu-ray track. As for the volume levels if there is 2 soundtracks on a blu-ray that sound the same then i personally would play the louder track.

ClaytonMG · 08-11-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by trans22

I said i prefer DTS rather than DOLBY, as for prefering lossy audio that only applied to the SPIDERMAN 2 superbit dvd which i said i prefer the lossy DTS track compared to the DOLBY blu-ray track.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...63#post2183863

In that post you say the person is probably right in assuming you're liking one track due to the fact that it's louder than the other.

As for thinking that lossy DTS with the 16kHz rolloff is better than a lossless track... well I just can't seem to understand that one at all.

DRC72 · 08-13-2009, 03:25 AM

While I do favor DTS HD Master Audio, Spiderman 3 sounds phenominal with Dolby True HD. The detail, bass, and volume level where practically spot on perfect.

syncguy · 08-14-2009, 12:43 AM

Do we have any evidence now that all major (Hollywood) studios are going in the direction shown by the blu-ray.com poll?

Blu Titan · 08-14-2009, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by syncguy

Do we have any evidence now that all major (Hollywood) studios are going in the direction shown by the blu-ray.com poll?

Sony is "listening" to the results of the poll

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syncguy · 08-14-2009, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Sony is "listening" to the results of the poll

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Yes, that is very good. I understand this. How about the directions of other major studios based on the upcoming releases?

aygie · 08-14-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by syncguy

Yes, that is very good. I understand this. How about the directions of other major studios based on the upcoming releases?

This was just for Sony so i don't think any of the other studios will be changing, although a few rumors say that Paramount are......

trans22 · 08-14-2009, 05:55 PM

Fantastic, THE CRAFT will have DTS-HDMA yippee

syncguy · 08-15-2009, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Aygie

This was just for Sony so i don't think any of the other studios will be changing, although a few rumors say that Paramount are......

I gather that the execs from the other studios also reading blu-ray.com. Should keep an eye on upcoming releases to check their directions.

The Dragon · 08-24-2009, 04:40 AM

They should simply imitate some of the Asian releases such as Red Cliff Pt.1&2. There are Mandarin DTS HD-MA and DTHD.
That way, audiences can view the film in audio they prefer.
Isn't that why they were originally adverstising all the storage space for these discs anyway?

LembasBread · 08-24-2009, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dragon

They should simply imitate some of the Asian releases such as Red Cliff Pt.1&2. There are Mandarin DTS HD-MA and DTHD.
That way, audiences can view the film in audio they prefer.
Isn't that why they were originally adverstising all the storage space for these discs anyway?

If they're going to use that much space for two redundant lossless audio tracks then they may as well just put ONE 24-bit uncompressed LPCM track on there and not have to worry about codec skeptics and blind fanboyism.

RiseDarthVader · 08-24-2009, 08:26 AM

Yeah pretty pointless to put 2 lossless audio tracks of the same mix and use up loads of storage space and effect the PQ.

syncguy · 08-24-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LembasBread

If they're going to use that much space for two redundant lossless audio tracks then they may as well just put ONE 24-bit uncompressed LPCM track on there and not have to worry about codec skeptics and blind fanboyism.

uncompressed LPCM track ....? How about the older amplifiers.
IMO, a single lossless audio tracks would do the job (provided it is the same mix).

LembasBread · 08-24-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by syncguy

uncompressed LPCM track ....? How about the older amplifiers.
IMO, a single lossless audio tracks would do the job (provided it is the same mix).

What about older amplifiers?

Also, wasn't what I was proposing a single uncompressed track?

BozQ · 08-24-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by syncguy

uncompressed LPCM track ....? How about the older amplifiers.
IMO, a single lossless audio tracks would do the job (provided it is the same mix).

Older receivers?
Dolby Digital then.

I think there has only been one blunder with this. And that's Kung Fu Hustle.
But other than that, I've been seeing Dolby Digital alongside LPCM releases.

Canada · 08-25-2009, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RiseDarthVader

Yeah pretty pointless to put 2 lossless audio tracks of the same mix and use up loads of storage space and effect the PQ.

The DTS MA track on Top Gun is better than the True HD but apparently the DTS track is from a different master.

Sony should go with DTS MA for people who have older receivers.

PeterTHX · 08-25-2009, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Canada

The DTS MA track on Top Gun is better than the True HD but apparently the DTS track is from a different master.

It is, one is 5.1 (DTHD), the other is 6.1 (DTS)

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Sony should go with DTS MA for people who have older receivers.

As it's been said, 640kbps DD is every "bit" the equal of core DTS, and offers things like Night Mode, and as I've seen on other threads, some people with older receivers have DD but not DTS. HDTVs will also accept a DD bitstream thru HDMI for those with no HTs at all.

View Poll Results: Should SPE Drop Dolby TrueHD and use DTS-HD Master Audio?
Yes, Drop TrueHD for DTS-HD MA	899	58.76%
No, I like things the way they are	152	9.93%
Wouldn't matter to me either way	450	29.41%
Other	29	1.90%
Voters: 1530. You may not vote on this poll

08-24-2009, 04:40 AM	#1753
The Dragon Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2009 Home Theater Gallery:93 4K collection:265 Blu-ray collection:1897 DVD collection:471 Blu-ray reviews: 2	The companies should produce both... They should simply imitate some of the Asian releases such as Red Cliff Pt.1&2. There are Mandarin DTS HD-MA and DTHD. That way, audiences can view the film in audio they prefer. Isn't that why they were originally adverstising all the storage space for these discs anyway? Last edited by The Dragon; 08-24-2009 at 04:43 AM.

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08-11-2009, 03:44 PM	#1741
Skoobooz Active Member Member since:May 2008 Location:Culver City, CA	FYI - Year One will also have DTS-HD MA audio, not TrueHD. The article here at Blu-ray.com has been updated.

08-13-2009, 03:25 AM	#1746
DRC72 Senior Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Hartford, Connecticut USA	While I do favor DTS HD Master Audio, Spiderman 3 sounds phenominal with Dolby True HD. The detail, bass, and volume level where practically spot on perfect.

08-14-2009, 12:43 AM	#1747
syncguy Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008	Do we have any evidence now that all major (Hollywood) studios are going in the direction shown by the blu-ray.com poll?

08-14-2009, 05:55 PM	#1751
trans22 Active Member Member since:May 2009 Location:united kingdom 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:87 Blu-ray reviews:9	Fantastic, THE CRAFT will have DTS-HDMA yippee

08-24-2009, 08:26 AM	#1755
RiseDarthVader Power Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Australia Blu-ray collection:136	Yeah pretty pointless to put 2 lossless audio tracks of the same mix and use up loads of storage space and effect the PQ.

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