Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[barsalou]

So it's cool for Shout! to send out damaged products? We should't say anything about it?

lol come on...

The shills are out in full force today.

[BarnDoor]

This seems to lend extra weight to the recent Terminator rumours:

Originally Posted by Kino Lorber Insider

We were outbid for The Terminator and Robocop by other labels.

We know one of the 'other labels' is Arrow (for Robocop). Realistically, this leaves Criterion or Shout for The Terminator, and the latter seems the more likely candidate.

[darkness2918]

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

This seems to lend extra weight to the recent Terminator rumours:



We know one of the 'other labels' is Arrow (for Robocop). Realistically, this leaves Criterion or Shout for The Terminator, and the latter seems the more likely destination.

It doesn't matter to me which label releases Terminator as long as they include the original mono track

[jthefrank]

Originally Posted by Swift1246

Why are Scream Factory prices so expensive now? I used to preorder the titles I wanted from Amazon almost immediately and they would often get down below $20 when release day hits. There's no way I'm going to start paying $35+ for these titles. Did I miss something on a price hike?

Everyone is now. Synapse and Blue Underground titles could be acquired for like $10 once upon a time.

Hell I think I imported all those Arrow slipbox titles for like $13 a pop

[Tylur]

Originally Posted by Antemasque

Everyone and their mom asking for replacements for a little bend and they wonder why shout is jacking the prices up. Everyone trying to get coupons for delays and get mad about prices being too high. I know shout is going through some shit but we are not helping. We are making it harder for them.

We're all horror fans and look at how we're treating the company releasing all our favorite films.

This plus I dont think people really believe that we are entering a post physical media world. Prices are going to naturally rise but I think Shout! are taking the preemptive strike on price increase and are getting a little greedy since they've took on too much right now.

[ashedmaniac]

Originally Posted by Tylur

I find it funny that the majority of the people hating on scream factory still post in this thread daily. Why would you want to hang around a thread for a company you don't like?

People complain because they care. Most of those complaining want nothing more than for Scream Factory to succeed (and what's "great" here is they generally agree on what success would be in this case). It's like diehard fans of a sports team or television show. They're deeply invested in its value to them so, if a season sucks, they're going to complain far more than people who stopped following or didn't care to begin with.

Having said that, some complaints can get repetitive. But still.

[nousefouraname]

Originally Posted by Tylur

This plus I dont think people really believe that we are entering a post physical media world. Prices are going to naturally rise but I think Shout! are taking the preemptive strike on price increase and are getting a little greedy since they've took on too much right now.

This.

It's going to be the new normal in terms of pricing for almost every label, but especially the smaller companies. I'd love to see average sales per similar titles today vs. 5 years ago vs. 10 years ago.

Licensing costs money. Manufacturing costs money. Supplemental materials cost money. I've been predicting for years that physical media will survive, but it will be more niche and will have to cater to collectors more and more by offering packaging, books, and supplementals that you can't get by buying a digital copy.

All of that is going to cost. If a label was able to sell 10,000 copies of something 5-7 years ago, but only can sell 5,000 copies today, do you think you are going to be able to pay the same prices from 5 years ago going forward?

You have to pay to play. So, it's pretty much get on board with higher prices or just get out of the game and go digital yourself. But, I will say that for the higher price one should be able to expect a higher level of service and quality to the product.

That has been Shouts issue here, but I don't hold the prices against them, honestly.

[jcole8882]

Anyone here seen Grotesque (1988)? This needs a bluray really badly... a majorly over looked horror film...

Starring Linda Blair, she and her family are vacationing up in the mountains when a group of gang bangers break in and start brutally murdering them... but when one escapes and they them through the woods, the gang soon realizes that they are being hunted by a viscious wild creature... justice will be served.

Great revenge/ karma horror flick

[nousefouraname]

Originally Posted by ashedmaniac

People complain because they care. Most of those complaining want nothing more than for Scream Factory to succeed (and what's "great" here is they generally agree on what success would be in this case). It's like diehard fans of a sports team or television show. They're deeply invested in its value to them so, if a season sucks, they're going to complain far more than people who stopped following or didn't care to begin with.

Having said that, some complaints can get repetitive. But still.

I'd disagree with this. Some have already reached a point where they are "done" with Scream and are just piling on and hoping they fail at this point. Whether it's the perceived slight of the price increases, the poster issues, or technical difficulties. Some do care and want to see them improve, but some are at a point where they are taking glee in the issues and hoping they fail.

I've seen this same mentality play out online with the Star Wars fanbase. Even if they released a great Star Wars movie that satisfied nearly everyone in the fanbase, some would still get more joy out of bashing online than trying to enjoy what is given to them.

I'll never understand that mentality. I'm more of the mind that if I no longer enjoy a product or service, I'll just move on. That is voting with your wallet. Spending days telling people how you are "done' with something is just grandstanding at that point.

[sancho]

Originally Posted by jcole8882

Anyone here seen Grotesque (1988)? This needs a bluray really badly... a majorly over looked horror film...

Starring Linda Blair, she and her family are vacationing up in the mountains when a group of gang bangers break in and start brutally murdering them... but when one escapes and they them through the woods, the gang soon realizes that they are being hunted by a viscious wild creature... justice will be served.

Great revenge/ karma horror flick

I seen that movie way back in 89 on VHS. It has been 29 years since I watched it. I need to check that out again.

[20th Century Boy]

My 2019 Shout Wishlist is for them to go a year without any PQ/SQ issues, defective discs, recalls, or smashed swag.

And also fix the Billy Jack set.

[20th Century Boy]

Originally Posted by captainron_howdy

They did......

Attachment 212684

They must share customer support with Bethesda.

[20th Century Boy]

Originally Posted by NeMo_ET

A couple wishes from Shout not Scream but I'd like to see Turn up the Volume

I'd settle for Pump Up the Volume.

[20th Century Boy]

Originally Posted by nousefouraname

As collectors, we demand total perfection, but then complain about prices.

Speak for yourself. I'm just asking for basic competency.

[20th Century Boy]

Originally Posted by Thomas Veil

You guys are ridiculous and have far to much time on your hands to be pinpointing exact times lol. Here is a tip...dont buy them if the prices seem to high. Nobody is making you buy anything. To go on and on and on is just child like.

I never tire of folks like yourself coming to forums dedicated to hobbies to tell forum members not to discuss hobbies.

Don't forget to add the obligatory "First world problems" post too.

[20th Century Boy]

I think it's fair for most of us to point out the oddness of Shout being the company with the most consistent quality issues, also being the ones with no (regular) sales and the highest prices.

[chuway]

Originally Posted by Hedji

Why is there such inconsistent and arbitrary distribution with those $4 codes? They sent them out for Trick 'R Treat customers because of a delay, correct? Why not for Creepshow customers, or the other titles that are now delayed?

I received one for Trick r treat and Halloween 2 steel book. Maybe they’re sending out too many lately.

[thatguamguy]

Originally Posted by nousefouraname

I'd disagree with this. Some have already reached a point where they are "done" with Scream and are just piling on and hoping they fail at this point. Whether it's the perceived slight of the price increases, the poster issues, or technical difficulties. Some do care and want to see them improve, but some are at a point where they are taking glee in the issues and hoping they fail.

I've seen this same mentality play out online with the Star Wars fanbase. Even if they released a great Star Wars movie that satisfied nearly everyone in the fanbase, some would still get more joy out of bashing online than trying to enjoy what is given to them.

I think it's apples and oranges. Technical issues are pretty binary, they either exist or they don't. You can objectively prove that the audio track is at the incorrect pitch, for instance. With a storyline, there is no objective right or wrong, the options are a lot more open, and so if one person says "I don't think Kylo Ren is as scary as he could've been," that's just an opinion about a creative choice. I don't think that the issues with Shout releases are judgement calls -- they didn't deliberately release a modified version of "Drag Me To Hell", the changes were made in error. They didn't deliberately release the incorrect audio for "Creepshow", they either didn't check it or they didn't fix it. Even disregarding stuff like "Creepshow", just the number of errors and issues they have acknowledged and corrected with reissues should give you a good indication that pre-release QC is a very low-priority with Shout.

I think if the increase in price had hit, but their QC improved and there were no mistakes for 3-6 months, people would've been fine with the price jump, because they would feel like their money was going to something. But instead, immediately after the price increase, the replication issue hit the country, and it might seem unfair that Shout gets those complaints too -- except that Shout it specifically advertising "Order direct from us and get it early." So people are paying newly-inflated prices to get releases late.

It's probably fair to say that some people are too hard on Shout, that is the nature of the Internet. But most of Shout's problems are self-generated, or at least self-exacerbated. They are a weird hybrid of the worst aspects of small labels (less QC, higher prices) and the worst aspects of larger distributors (indifference toward fans, reluctance to issue corrections, locked-down release dates whether the release is ready or not).

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by Antemasque

Everyone and their mom asking for replacements for a little bend and they wonder why shout is jacking the prices up.

There’s been pictures posted here and elsewhere of posters being ripped and crumpled because some primate shoved them into a shipping tube. The pics I saw weren’t little bends.

[thatguamguy]

The posters are another example of unforced errors by Shout. They charge extra for pre-orders with the poster without offering people the option of ordering without the poster, and then they ship the posters in a way that will almost guarantee damage. Of course people are going to complain if the poster that you require them to pay extra for arrives damaged! But they created the problem themselves -- nobody complains that the other labels don't tack on non-free stuff as a requirement for a pre-order. And they hide the extra charge so well that a lot of people still think the posters are free, and therefore think that anybody who is complaining about them is being a cheapskate.