Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[demonknight]

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

The distribution rights for those films only included foreign markets and not the US as Lionsgate holds the US distribution license. The asking price was right around $45,000 per film if I remember correctly. Had the US rights been included it potentially could have meant more interest and a possible future Blu Ray release, however considering the rights were only for the over sea's market I'm guessing there wasn't much interest and I'm unsure if either film ever ended up selling.

They did not sell.

[willtopower]

Originally Posted by prkchopexpress

they cover this on some of their podcast appearances from killer pov and shock waves.

not all of their titles make money. if i remember correctly, if a title like this that has a ton of name recognition and is popular is successful and maybe even overperforms, they can take more risks on some of the lesser known titles. (i believe they even used scarecrows as a example. something that was widely requested but did not move a lot of copies.)

i think they also may have said that they also do not have digital rights, just domestic home video rights.

Do they say what kind of numbers a poor seller put out? How many titles were moved of a title like Scarecrows?

It's interesting to me what kind of numbers are poor for a company like Shout/Scream.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by willtopower

Do they say what kind of numbers a poor seller put out? How many titles were moved of a title like Scarecrows?

It's interesting to me what kind of numbers are poor for a company like Shout/Scream.

They never state numbers.

[zbinks]

Originally Posted by willtopower

Do they say what kind of numbers a poor seller put out? How many titles were moved of a title like Scarecrows?

It's interesting to me what kind of numbers are poor for a company like Shout/Scream.

They never reveal actual sales numbers, publicly. Even if they did, it wouldn't really tell us anything because they also don't reveal their budgets or sales projections.

One thing to keep in mind is that, when they say a title sold poorly, there is no one magic number across the board that determines whether a title sold well or sold poorly. Not all titles will have the same sales projections and not all titles are budgeted equally.

Example: Two titles sell 5,000 copies each. Title A was projected and budgeted to sell 10,000 copies, while Title B was projected and budgeted to sell 3,000 copies. Sales for Title A would be considered poor, while sales for Title B would be considered good, even though both sold the same number of units.

[StingingVelvet]

I would bet some of that schock literally sold like 500 copies or even less. Insiders from other labels like Kino and Arrow have been more forthright about their sales and it's not uncommon for a really low interest movie like Scarecrows selling a few hundred copies and costing the label money in the end. That's why Shout are trying out the higher priced limited editions model for these super niche movies.

[painiac]

People moan a lot about double features, but then don't buy the individual release. Scream does a lot of fan service, but splitting hairs on what should and should not be included in a double feature should not depend on outcry from internet fanboys.

[TheMikeSchwartz]

Interview with Jeff Nelson about their recent announcements at SDCC:

http://www.blumhouse.com/2016/07/26/...mic-con-slate/

[BarnDoor]

So Dead Ringers and Rabid scheduled for November. We should see the artwork for these in the next week or so.

Fingers crossed Black Christmas does indeed make it out before the end of the year, but it sounds like it could be tight.

This bit is intriguing:

I can’t announce anything unless the deals are signed and done. There are other titles that we currently have cooking that would’ve been just as splashy that we couldn’t announce for Comic-Con, but we tried.

[TripleHBK]

Originally Posted by painiac

People moan a lot about double features, but then don't buy the individual release. Scream does a lot of fan service, but splitting hairs on what should and should not be included in a double feature should not depend on outcry from internet fanboys.

I'd wager just as many people choose not to purchase the double features as they do the individual releases. Often times the people that complain the loudest about not wanting to pay for single editions.. (See Jeepers Creepers, Poltergeist, etc) are the same people that want everything for $10 regardless. If my options are Double Feature or nothing at all, the choice is pretty simple, however if given the choice I'll take single editions every single day of the week. Considering that for most of these films they may very well be the last time they ever see a physical release, I'd prefer that they be dressed up and given as nice of a presentation as possible. Packaging 2 films on one disc already bring that down one notch. If however Shout Factory were to get into the habit of issuing double features on 2 separate BD-25's complete with their own menu's, I could go about creating my own cover art and would no longer have a problem with double features.

[Member-222782]

One thing I always forget about Comic Con announcements is most of the slate won't hit the proverbial store shelves until well into the following year. Sure, a handful will trickle out before then but the majority won't be ready for months.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by Jeff Nelson from Scream Factory

What’s really interesting was when Cliff and I were on the Shock Waves podcast earlier this year, I mentioned something like, “I’d love to work on Croneberg titles,” we knew we had these titles coming. We just couldn’t say anything on that podcast! I did the same thing with CARRIE. I have to throw off the scent sometimes!

This is why it's a waste of time asking them if they have a certain title. They will deny, deny, deny, until they're ready to make an announcement.

[jshaide]

I wasn't planning on buying Raising Cain, but I'm awfully curious about that new cut. Too bad they didn't reveal that before the big order I placed during the Shout sale. Wouldn't have minded the poster coming with the disc at that price.

[jshaide]

Originally Posted by painiac

People moan a lot about double features, but then don't buy the individual release. Scream does a lot of fan service, but splitting hairs on what should and should not be included in a double feature should not depend on outcry from internet fanboys.

Reading the Scarecrows post the day they announced it as a double feature was joyously horrifying.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by jshaide

Reading the Scarecrows post the day they announced it as a double feature was joyously horrifying.

And after they listened to the complainers and made it a single release, it still didn't sell.

[mja345]

The double features are very hit or miss. Honestly, I'm not that upset that they may make them limited because the temptation to buy them is much greater at a lower price point. I think the five worst films I've seen in the last year were in SF double features haha. There are some gems like "Vampire's Kiss", "Blacula", and "Terror Vision". I even enjoyed the "X-Ray"/"Schizoid" double feature. But then you have true shit like "Millenium", "Eliminators", "Witchery", "Catacombs", etc. Those things were real tempting at 14 or 15 bucks. At 25 or 30 bucks, not so much. If there's one I really want, I'll pick it up at the higher price, but it'll definitely dissuade me from picking up some real shit.

[tardif]

Originally Posted by TheMikeSchwartz

Interview with Jeff Nelson about their recent announcements at SDCC:

http://www.blumhouse.com/2016/07/26/...mic-con-slate/

What’s really interesting was when Cliff and I were on the Shock Waves podcast earlier this year, I mentioned something like, “I’d love to work on Croneberg titles,” we knew we had these titles coming. We just couldn’t say anything on that podcast! I did the same thing with CARRIE. I have to throw off the scent sometimes!

This is what lead me to believe that William Friedkin's Cruising could be a future possibility, as it was specifically mentioned by Jeff on that podcast.

[JoelGoodsen]

All over these. Especially Slumber Party Massacre II & III!!

Thank you Scream.

[painiac]

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

Fingers crossed Black Christmas does indeed make it out before the end of the year, but it sounds like it could be tight.

I hope I don't have to buy Black Christmas after December and end up getting it later. It was so anticlimactic buying New Year's Evil in March or whenever it was it came out.

[Seymour]

Originally Posted by mja345

The double features are very hit or miss.

A good portion of the titles they've released under the Scream Factory banner are hit or miss. You're bound to find some titles that are on the crappy side, even with the ones that get the CE treatment.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by Seymour

A good portion of the titles they've released under the Scream Factory banner are hit or miss. You're bound to find some titles that are on the crappy side, even with the ones that get the CE treatment.

You can say that about any label.