HDR Discussion Thread

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

No one's indicated either way, they're keeping remarkably mum on the subject. So again you're making an assumption. I'm saying, from historical evidence with Miramax, Marvel, Lucasfilm, etc. there is every chance they keep the Fox branding and give them a sizeable amount of independence.

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I was responding to the comment "Fox as a studio won't exist in a year" so I have zero idea how this is a relevant retort.

It IS relevant because you talk about the studios having independence when it comes to running their operations and I'm pointing out that despite that their home video divisions are still controlled by Disney. Since Disney doesn't support HDR10+ that means Fox's video releases probably will not once Disney takes over.

[gkolb]

Nothing is known about any “contracts” that Fox might have signed with Samsung.
I’m not saying they exist, just that they may have to be honored.
If there aren’t any, then yes Fox/Disney could turn their backs on 10+.
But it still seems to be 100% speculation at this time.

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by gkolb

Nothing is known about any “contracts” that Fox might have signed with Samsung.
I’m not saying they exist, just that they may have to be honored.
If there aren’t any, then yes Fox/Disney could turn their backs on 10+.
But it still seems to be 100% speculation at this time.

Exactly, nobody knows anything about Fox home video future so let's wait to see what happens.

And it's not like Disney itself is pushing for Dolby Vision adoption, they stopped making discs with it

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Hah! Medicine is clearly not my forte.

It’s good to broaden one’s horizons so as to be well rounded.

Follow-up to this post on CRISPR – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post15025077

And other big biotech ideas (including that from the Chief Scientist Poppy at Dolby Laboratories) …. https://medium.com/neodotlife/biotec...9-e365d12f2e6d

[Penton-Man]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post15914639
All that ^ said, keep in mind, a person can not win, fly or buy a militarized fighter jet without complications – http://articles.latimes.com/2007/mar/07/local/me-jets7

In case some were real world F-14 Tomcat wondering (30 sec. timestamp) - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post15875862

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

It’s good to broaden one’s horizons so as to be well rounded.

Follow-up to this post on CRISPR – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post15025077

And other big biotech ideas (including that from the Chief Scientist Poppy at Dolby Laboratories) …. https://medium.com/neodotlife/biotec...9-e365d12f2e6d

Oooh! I've heard of CRISPR....but only becuz I watched Rampage the other night

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

It IS relevant because you talk about the studios having independence when it comes to running their operations and I'm pointing out that despite that their home video divisions are still controlled by Disney. Since Disney doesn't support HDR10+ that means Fox's video releases probably will not once Disney takes over.

My point was that I wasn't debating the disc mastering stuff you guys are. I was responding directly to your aside that Fox won't exist in a year's time. We don't know that at all.

I agree that, even if they have some independence in home video decisions like Marvel does, they will almost surely adopt Disney's home video standards.

[DanBa]

Latest Dolby Vision Profiles and levels (V1.3):
https://www.dolby.com/us/en/technolo...s_20181025.pdf

. High Frame Rate (HFR):
Single-layer Profile 5 and Profile 8 can now support up to 120 fps (max of H.265 Main 10 Level 6.2: 3840×2160@300, 7680x4320@128).

Dual-layer Profile 4 and Profile 7 keep supporting up to 60 fps (max of H.265 Main 10 Level 5.1: 3840×2160@64).

The 120-fps Dolby Vision profiles should be backward compatible with current 60-fps Dolby Vision TV.
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-h...l#post54845156




. 8K UHD 7680x4320:
Single-layer Profile 5 and Profile 8 can now support 8K UHD (H.265 Main 10 Level 6.2).




. HLG base layer:
The new single-layer Profile 8.4 provides backward compatibility with HLG.
"For Profile 8.4, only test streams are available. We are still in the process of finalizing encoding tools."

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post15914639
All that ^ said, keep in mind, a person can not win, fly or buy a militarized fighter jet without complications – http://articles.latimes.com/2007/mar/07/local/me-jets7

In case some were real world F-14 Tomcat wondering (30 sec. timestamp) - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post15875862

For nostalgic Tomcat (http://www.f-14association.com/on-di...n-display.html )
fans (yes, the F-14 could go much faster and had a greater fuel range than stock F/A-18 Super Hornets), a quick read - https://nationalinterest.org/blog/th...ks-china-26043

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Oooh! I've heard of CRISPR....but only becuz I watched Rampage the other night

Well, I guess some exposure to science, is better than none…..even if it’s from a Hollywood screenwriter. True, in the real world, there is the danger of recklessness - https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...c-rss_20181126

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by DanBa

Latest Dolby Vision Profiles and levels (V1.3):
https://www.dolby.com/us/en/technolo...s_20181025.pdf

High Frame Rate (HFR):

Challenges remain upstream for live HFR, for instance - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post15900404

e.g., for the latest HFR/HDR trial, the video was captured as 2 distinct 2160p/50 signals with each representing either the even or odd frames for the full 100 hertz signal. Using 3G-SDI interfaces resulted in the need of 8 cables/source!

But, we’ll eventually get to HFR capture and delivery, just so long as we don’t get waylaid too long by the marketeers with their sales pitch for 8K, who see that as a quick way to make an easy buck.

[Penton-Man]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post15912586
^ -> For those more into 4 wheels and ASUS’s upcoming 4K ProArt PQ22UC monitor….
https://www.oled-info.com/watch-jole...totype-action?

[Penton-Man]

For totally new readers to the thread this festive season (shush Staying Salty , for as videophiles, they might not scroll down the page and concentrate rather on the pic above this post ->https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...g#post15563308 with the 8K LCD.

A still not posted on Jerry's twitter from another angle with a different jacket and a little more wave action in the Pacific –



With a thanks to the Producer(s) of Top Gun: Maverick -


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1745960/?ref_=ttfc_fc_tt

[Penton-Man]

Happy New Year from SMPTE! (2019) - YouTube

Happy New Year from SMPTE! (2019) - YouTube

[puddy77]

Originally Posted by DanBa

[Show spoiler]Latest Dolby Vision Profiles and levels (V1.3):
https://www.dolby.com/us/en/technolo...s_20181025.pdf

. High Frame Rate (HFR):
Single-layer Profile 5 and Profile 8 can now support up to 120 fps (max of H.265 Main 10 Level 6.2: 3840×2160@300, 7680x4320@128).

Dual-layer Profile 4 and Profile 7 keep supporting up to 60 fps (max of H.265 Main 10 Level 5.1: 3840×2160@64).

The 120-fps Dolby Vision profiles should be backward compatible with current 60-fps Dolby Vision TV.
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-h...l#post54845156




. 8K UHD 7680x4320:
Single-layer Profile 5 and Profile 8 can now support 8K UHD (H.265 Main 10 Level 6.2).

. HLG base layer:
The new single-layer Profile 8.4 provides backward compatibility with HLG.
"For Profile 8.4, only test streams are available. We are still in the process of finalizing encoding tools."

[Show spoiler]

Can anyone think of a single situation where DV having backwards compatibility with HLG would be useful? I can’t even imagine a hypothetical where this would be necessary?

[Waboman]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

[Show spoiler]

You awake yet?
If not, note to family member monitoring Wabo’s phone while in recovery, shake the dude (better yet, whisper in his ear that you inadvertently threw out his entire Ultra HD Blu-ray collection in the trash by mistake) and let him know we’re waiting on the outcome of his surgery!

Meanwhile I’m going riding with da boys to keep my mind off today’s stock market.

Lol.

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Well, I think I spoke too soon as a couple of the gals on the ride smoked me. Anyway, I’m back….

[Show spoiler]

Showered, jersey has been washed and is already air drying ^ for the next ride.
Still no Waboman?

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Hey, Chuck Norris again.

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Hey, Chuck Norris again.

you either need glasses, OR, NEW glasses!

[DanBa]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Challenges remain upstream for live HFR, for instance - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post15900404

e.g., for the latest HFR/HDR trial, the video was captured as 2 distinct 2160p/50 signals with each representing either the even or odd frames for the full 100 hertz signal. Using 3G-SDI interfaces resulted in the need of 8 cables/source!

But, we’ll eventually get to HFR capture and delivery, just so long as we don’t get waylaid too long by the marketeers with their sales pitch for 8K, who see that as a quick way to make an easy buck.

SDI may have some issues, but how about IP?

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by gkolb

you either need glasses, OR, NEW glasses!

Bruce Lee?