AMC's "Fear The Walking Dead" (Season 8)

[jokerzwild]

Originally Posted by DisneyBlu

The dog part bothered me too. Those dogs can take down humans, with human intelligence, in real life. They often take down fleeing criminals, who may be panicky or dangerous. This dog was already threatened by the Walker (barking at him and drawing attention towards him), and when the Walker wandered in, we saw the dog running around avoiding him.

So how the hell does a mindless Walker bring down a German Shepard? That's a big dog -- a big dog that's threatened. He's agitated, he's in fight mode. That animal would bring down a stumbling Walker no problem. I don't know how a lone Walker can bring down a German Shepard.

It annoyed me, even if it is nitpicking.

Those humans feel pain, zombie doesn't. Humans feel fear, a zombie doesn't. The dog keeps biting them but what is the worse they can do? It certainly can't do enough head damage to put it down. It could slow a zombie down sure, damage the limbs it might even damage enough of the throat it can't bite but in doing so it would be right in the core grasp of the zombie.
Even a trained attack or police dog wouldn't stand much hope unless it ran. The large size, instinct to fight, or worse the training to in those dogs would be what dooms them to die, while skittish and smaller dogs may stand a chance.

[max041104]

Originally Posted by jokerzwild

Those humans feel pain, zombie doesn't. Humans feel fear, a zombie doesn't. The dog keeps biting them but what is the worse they can do? It certainly can't do enough head damage to put it down. It could slow a zombie down sure, damage the limbs it might even damage enough of the throat it can't bite but in doing so it would be right in the core grasp of the zombie.
Even a trained attack or police dog wouldn't stand much hope unless it ran. The large size, instinct to fight, or worse the training to in those dogs would be what dooms them to die, while skittish and smaller dogs may stand a chance.

well put! though it bothered me a bit, i'm glad they included it. it helped show why there are no dogs on the walking dead.

[AnamorphicWidescreen]

To follow-up on a previous post, one of the most interesting aspects to this show is that it's taking place in the present (or at least 2010), when everyone is so plugged into the Internet, social media, I-phones (or at least the beginning of I-phones, etc.). In the past - and even up through the '90's - very few - if any - people had cell phones, the Internet, etc. So, at that time people weren't depending on technology as much as they are now.

Conversely, these days, I get the impression that if people couldn't get their I-phones to charge up and work (i.e., if the electricity went down for any length of time) these people would have collective nervous breakdowns...

So, because of this, I feel that people these days are far less equipped to deal with a disaster like what we see in FTWD than they were in years past. People have become so dependent on technology that it seems they can't do anything without it.

Sure, I'm the same way to some extent - however, I still don't have an I-phone....

[neoz]

Originally Posted by AnamorphicWidescreen

Conversely, these days, I get the impression that if people couldn't get their I-phones to charge up and work (i.e., if the electricity went down for any length of time) these people would have collective nervous breakdowns...

So, because of this, I feel that people these days are far less equipped to deal with a disaster like what we see in FTWD than they were in years past. People have become so dependent on technology that it seems they can't do anything without it.

Sure, I'm the same way to some extent - however, I still don't have an I-phone....

You nailed it right on the head. People aren't self reliant anymore. They depend far to much on technology that if the slightest thing happens where they can't access their phones they are lost. Granted if worst came to worst some would adapt but others probably wouldn't be able to. While I myself don't have a smart phone, I am bored out of my mind when my internet goes down. Granted I have other things I can do but the convenience of the internet/wireless networks and being able to communicate and pull information makes life easy. Which isn't a good thing, none of us should be totally complacent as that can and will be ones own downfall.
I've been trying to ween myself and get back to my outdoor stuff that I do, ei hunting, fishing, and other survival things.

[CRAZYKAT]

Originally Posted by neoz

You nailed it right on the head. People aren't self reliant anymore. They depend far to much on technology that if the slightest thing happens where they can't access their phones they are lost. Granted if worst came to worst some would adapt but others probably wouldn't be able to. While I myself don't have a smart phone, I am bored out of my mind when my internet goes down. Granted I have other things I can do but the convenience of the internet/wireless networks and being able to communicate and pull information makes life easy. Which isn't a good thing, none of us should be totally complacent as that can and will be ones own downfall.
I've been trying to ween myself and get back to my outdoor stuff that I do, ei hunting, fishing, and other survival things.

My chances for survival in an apocalyptic world would probably be slim to none. My thought is that the best chance for survival would be for those 65 and under and in good health. I'm older than that but no real health issues
but, not moving that fast anymore, my feet start hurting if I walk too far. I wear glasses so if damaged my eyesight would be greatly hindered.

So I figure I'd be ........Munch Food. Ha

[neoz]

Originally Posted by CRAZYKAT

My chances for survival in an apocalyptic world would probably be slim to none. My thought is that the best chance for survival would be for those 65 and under and in good health. I'm older than that but no real health issues
but, not moving that fast anymore, my feet start hurting if I walk too far. I wear glasses so if damaged my eyesight would be greatly hindered.

So I figure I'd be ........Munch Food. Ha

Hey, if you can move you can live. And don't forget even in a world say where gas is scarce, you can still use a horse. And if you are in a group they would help to make sure you were safe. I mean at least my group is like that. Our SOP is we don't kill unless we have to. Try to be friendly with unknown units but always have our firearms ready.

[CRAZYKAT]

Originally Posted by neoz

Hey, if you can move you can live. And don't forget even in a world say where gas is scarce, you can still use a horse. And if you are in a group they would help to make sure you were safe. I mean at least my group is like that. Our SOP is we don't kill unless we have to. Try to be friendly with unknown units but always have our firearms ready.

Oh yeah, I would definitely try.
I'm older but active and if you've seen my albums in my community profile you can see why my login name at a Car forum is Need4Fun, but a 24/7 survival mode is going to be tough for anyone.

BTW, Thank You for your Service and I'm proud to Know You.

[Freezeup]

This week was my favorite episode so far. Still definitely no where close to the vibe(also realism IMO) and feel the WD gives off, but I'm warming up to Fear much more now and enjoying it very much.

[neoz]

Originally Posted by CRAZYKAT

Oh yeah, I would definitely try.
I'm older but active and if you've seen my albums in my community profile you can see why my login name at a Car forum is Need4Fun, but a 24/7 survival mode is going to be tough for anyone.

BTW, Thank You for your Service and I'm proud to Know You.

No need to thank me but thank you for thanking me. I gladly did my job and would do it all over again if needed. And yeah 24/7 is going to suck. I mean we did 48 FTX's (Field Training Exercises) and those were horrible lol.

[CRAZYKAT]

Originally Posted by Freezeup

This week was my favorite episode so far. Still definitely no where close to the vibe(also realism IMO) and feel the WD gives off, but I'm warming up to Fear much more now and enjoying it very much.

I'm liking it more also and now wishing they had more episodes for the opening season, it's already half over.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by Thomas Veil

I'm sure with numerous zombie encounters as well.

Ha....arguing with a moderator....these always turn out well.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by DisneyBlu

Yeah, a lot of the characters -- especially Travis and Madison -- are in "we'll ride it out" mode. That's their mentality. Only Tobias is in "this is the end of the world mode." Travis and Madison have that belief that something terrible is happening, but the government and the military will get it under control, and then life will go back to normal.

When Hurricane Katrina happened, or a huge tsunami, or a huge earthquake that kills thousands of people, most people have that mentality of, "this is a tragedy, but we'll ride it out, things will get cleaned up, then life will go back to normal." Travis, Madison, mostly everyone else, they're in that mindset where they think this is some bump in the road before normalcy returns.

We know the world goes to hell and effectively ends, they don't. Travis is kind of being like Hershel right now, too, thinking these are just sick people -- unaware they're dead and there's no coming back from it. It'll be interesting to see how Travis develops going forward. Madison was ready to put down Susan, so she's developing a lot quicker.

From the sneak peek for episode four, with Madison seeing what dire straights the neighborhood is in, I think she's going to be ahead of the curve and start realizing this is deeper than a temporary dilemma that the family just needs to "ride out."

Again nitpicking.....but I like how easily the Hispanic family accepted what was happening. I would have at least liked to have seen the old woman do the sign of the cross and mutter something about El Diablo....

[neoz]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

Ha....arguing with a moderator....these always turn out well.

They really wasn't arguing per say. I mean the comment was kind of smart aleckly though. I really didn't explain myself in my reply so that is partially my fault as well lol.

[Jett Rink]

Has Nick eaten it yet?

[Carlanga]

I actually thought the show was going to their

[Show spoiler]desert home

, I guess they are going to the desert, but

[Show spoiler]in a military base

The helicopters and soldiers reminded me when I was in Panama still a little boy in 1989 and helicopters were passing by and also the US soldiers gave us a few cases of MREs because of my moms work. How I loved the MREs chocolates brownies/cookies or whatever had an addicting taste for me lol

Overall the episode was a meh for me, so far 3/3 mehs episodes for my taste

[neoz]

^^^

How odd, my Father was stationed in Panama. We lived at Albrook but he worked at Howard. It truly is a small world.

[Kevinicus]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

I've loved this show so far! The only thing that bothers me was the dog. Dogs aren't stupid. No dog would sit there and bark at a zombie like that. That was just dumb. It's just not how those kind of animals behave. He wasn't a random human, it's a zombie. Something supernatural, something new to the world. Dogs don't run after tornados. Hell, most dogs can sense emotions, and if you believe in it, the paranormal. They don't sit there and bark at someone that's angry. They cower and hide.

Worst was the idea that somehow, a dog with an open space managed to get caught by a walker. Like... Really?

Other than that, I really enjoyed the episode and can't wait for next week!

Haha, you've never met my dogs. Very stupid animals.

[Carlanga]

Originally Posted by neoz

^^^

How odd, my Father was stationed in Panama. We lived at Albrook but he worked at Howard. It truly is a small world.

Nothing to add about the show, just a small convo w neoz in the spoiler:
[SPOILER].../SPOILER] Small world indeed

[Gold Ranger]

ugh.
1 more episode and if it doesn't get any better, I'm dropping it!
I find it hard to believe that the episodes get worse as the series goes on...
well, I would, if I didn't see the exact same happen with The Walking Dead and Under the Dome.

[Carlanga]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

ugh.
1 more episode and if it doesn't get any better, I'm dropping it!
I find it hard to believe that the episodes get worse as the series goes on...
well, I would, if I didn't see the exact same happen with The Walking Dead and Under the Dome.

You should stick w it at least this season since its a short 6 episodes only, so you are halfway through the season lol . Especially if you are going to watch e4, then only 2 more after that. Is a good thing for them that there isn't anything good at night on sundays' since they have started... for now