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Old 10-12-2018, 08:56 PM   #401
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HD DVD was not the better name since it was already in use for DVD players with HDMI outputs and upconverting.
So was 4k.
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Old 10-13-2018, 07:49 AM   #402
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Can't stop laughing that the first titles with 10+ don't even list the 10+ aspect in the press releases. it's just imax enhanced. Then there is the part about it being documentaries almost nobody will see, and even fewer will own.

Another year or two and Samsung should be able to corner the market on straight to video Segal/Cage titles in HDR.
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Old 11-26-2018, 09:06 AM   #405
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I'd rather it went to 11...but what r u gonna do.
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Old 11-26-2018, 12:17 PM   #407
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Say what now?

Pieter, is there a press release or something with this info?
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Old 11-26-2018, 01:07 PM   #408
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Wow. HDR10+ finally gaining momentum. I can't wait to see it glow ultra bright and blow the fuse on the TV lol.
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Say what now?

Pieter, is there a press release or something with this info?
This got me excited so tried to find more info via Internet but found it very odd that I couldn't find any announcements or even specs anywhere stating HDR10+? Makes me wonder why they don't bother to do even the tiniest effort for marketing the first actual UHD movie with HDR10+?
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Aren't new Samsung TV's the only TV's that support HDR10+?
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Old 11-27-2018, 11:50 PM   #411
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Wow. HDR10+ finally gaining momentum. I can't wait to see it glow ultra bright and blow the fuse on the TV lol.
Not sure if serious but dynamic metadata isn't about making content brighter, it's about adapting the content best for the target display.
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Old 11-27-2018, 11:52 PM   #412
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Aren't new Samsung TV's the only TV's that support HDR10+?
Samsung 2017 8 series and 9 series support HDR10+ through recent firmware updates.
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I want to see some comparisons of Dolby Vision vs HDR10+...I think DV will still be better
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Samsung intentionally murdered people with cancer. No reason to support the most crooked company in the world.
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Old 11-28-2018, 02:40 AM   #415
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Not sure if serious but dynamic metadata isn't about making content brighter, it's about adapting the content best for the target display.
Geoff, it occurred to me that we could watch this title with Forced DoVi.
Just spitballing and wondering what the results could be?
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Old 11-28-2018, 03:24 AM   #416
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i 'strongly disagree'
  • dynamic metadata 'is not about' adapting the content (relative to the display); at all
  • dynamic metadata 'is not about' target display adaption; at all
  • dynamic metadata is 'means' by which dynamic adjustments (real time) occur relative specifically to content performance
  • it's 'only' Dolby Vision that takes the 'target display' into consideration (of course this requires 'dynamic metadata'
  • it seems your information relates to Dolby Vision specifically, although you attribute it to 'dynamic metadata'




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Not sure if serious but dynamic metadata isn't about making content brighter, it's about adapting the content best for the target display.

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Old 11-28-2018, 03:35 AM   #417
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Proof?
This

https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/.../262220/page/6

long thread details each firmware push and capabilities. Any search for my TV or an 8 series or 9 series will say hdr10+ capable
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Old 11-28-2018, 11:48 AM   #418
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If it's the 'target display' comment you're getting hung up on then even Dolby Vision quietly did away with the 'golden reference' thing, in case you didn't know, because they simply couldn't ensure that natural panel variation wouldn't adversely affect the tone mapping for this one fixed set of display reference data. Some sets allow for manual adjustment of this data but that's way beyond the average joe to do.

But I didn't say that HDR10+ used the same systems as DV, yet the principle remains thus: dynamic metadata is there to allow a display to readjust the absolute luminance values in the Perceptual Quantiser (HDR10+/Dolby Vision) source to best fit the characteristics of what it's being displayed upon. (HLG requiring no metadata because it's relative luminance, i.e. final OOTF rendering intent is inherently left to the display.)

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i 'strongly disagree'
  • dynamic metadata 'is not about' adapting the content (relative to the display); at all
  • dynamic metadata 'is not about' target display adaption; at all
  • dynamic metadata is 'means' by which dynamic adjustments (real time) occur relative specifically to content performance
  • it's 'only' Dolby Vision that takes the 'target display' into consideration (of course this requires 'dynamic metadata'
  • it seems your information relates to Dolby Vision specifically, although you attribute it to 'dynamic metadata'

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All I see in that thread is people saying that there is no HDR10+ logo on 2017 Samsung TVs when viewing HDR content on Amazon Prime (the only provider which currently supports HDR10+.)

I don't see any proof of HDR10+ compatibility.

Also, no 2017 models are listed here: https://www.hdr10plus.org/current-adopters/

A simple google search would of yielded this

https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00078565/

or this

https://www.avsforum.com/hdr10-comin...msung-uhd-tvs/

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Just to be clear, here’s the exact wording, copied verbatim from the press release. “All of Samsung’s 2017 UHD TVs, including its premium QLED TV lineup, support HDR10+. In the second half of this year, Samsung’s 2016 UHD TVs will gain HDR10+ support through a firmware update.”
Looks like your list is wrong.

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I want to see some comparisons of Dolby Vision vs HDR10+...I think DV will still be better
It will always be better if you care about director's intent
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