List of UHDs that contain HDR10+

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

As you know, makes little difference to me.

But since 2017 HDR10 encodes by Fox have been superb quality. HDR10+ won't compromise that as Dolby Vision maybe could (optional layer size)

Dolby Vision on disc is occasionally knackering the HDR10 base layers thru poor encoding in general, not because the full-fat enhancement layer is 'stealing' bits away from it. StudioCanal showed how bad things can get with their wretched HDR10 encode for The Fog which the DV cleans up beautifully, but then they also produced the HDR10-only encodes for the Rambos which can get mightily shitty, Rambo II in particular. The common theme here is that StudioCanal's authoring house is run by incompetent baboons in general.

Look at this way: the full-fat DV enhancement layers (if even used) often end up with the same sort of file size as an additional lossless audio stream or two, and given that some studios have gotten that sort of thing down to a fine art (Bad Boys has 4 Mb/s Atmos plus another SIX DTS-HD 5.1 tracks @ 13 Mb/s combined plus another 4.5 Mb/s of Dolby Digital audio tracks) then managing the DV layer ain't no thang. Competence is key.

And the ironical thing with Fox and HDR10+ is that their HDR10 encodes are rigidly mastered with 1000/1100 nit mastering metadata, there's a reason why we rarely get complaints of "it looks too dark!" with their HDR discs in general...

[StingingVelvet]

Fox UHDs even looked good on my first HDR television, which was like 400nits.

[Geoff D]

Right, because if a TV is looking at the metadata as to how to map the content then squeezing 1000 nits into 400-odd isn't going to be horribly deleterious unless the APL is ultra dim to begin with, like Arrival.

[Canada]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1uXQ_9aAzc&t=128s

[Dubstar]

so what IS happening when Disney gets full control of 20th Century Fox and specifically it's home video department - will they continue their support of HDR10+ or switch over to Disney's allegiance to Dolby ? (not that it actually produced much on physical disc in the first place, but nonetheless)

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

so what IS happening when Disney gets full control of 20th Century Fox and specifically it's home video department - will they continue their support of HDR10+ or switch over to Disney's allegiance to Dolby ? (not that it actually produced much on physical disc in the first place, but nonetheless)

From a trickle of catalog titles to a drip...drip...drip... to nothing. That's what's coming.

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

so what IS happening when Disney gets full control of 20th Century Fox and specifically it's home video department - will they continue their support of HDR10+ or switch over to Disney's allegiance to Dolby ? (not that it actually produced much on physical disc in the first place, but nonetheless)

Maybe Disney will keep calm and release 2 or 3 FOX Catalogs in a year with their trademark Atmouse mix made for soundbars.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

so what IS happening when Disney gets full control of 20th Century Fox and specifically it's home video department - will they continue their support of HDR10+ or switch over to Disney's allegiance to Dolby ? (not that it actually produced much on physical disc in the first place, but nonetheless)

Disney ain't really using Dolby Vision on disc either.

As for what they release, I assume they'll do the same "only the biggest of the big catalog titles" strategy with Fox as they do themselves, sadly. It's not even a digital versus disc thing as they don't release them digitally either. Disney just don't give two craps about remastering their catalog unless it's a Disney classic or whatever. Even if they keep Fox around as a brand and give it some autonomy I'd guess that strategy will still apply. It's a bummer.

[lgans316]

Disney have gone from a likeable Studio to a hated greedy corporate. I wish them bad luck with their streaming service. It is now a company that is too big to fail but looks like they might one day sink on their own weight.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by lgans316

Disney have gone from a likeable Studio to a hated greedy corporate. I wish them bad luck with their streaming service. It is now a company that is too big to fail but looks like they might one day sink on their own weight.

Soundbars cannot go loud enough.
And they have always done home mixes sadly

[Mr. Sasquatch]

Maybe this thread should be a sticky, next to the "List of UHDs that contain Dolby Vision"

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Mr. Sasquatch

Maybe this thread should be a sticky, next to the "List of UHDs that contain Dolby Vision"

Nah HDR10 is free theu cannot afford their sponsorship

[mothandras]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

QLED looks like straight trash compared to any OLED.

Apparently you haven't seen the right QLED in the right room. It is funny cause your OLED can't get brighter than 600 nits for more than a second. When your TV is riddled with IR/BI and slowly gets dimmer over time.. I will still be watching 1400 nit awesomeness in any light condition.

[lgans316]

Oh dear. OLED Vs QLED cat fights are back lol.

[StingingVelvet]

It's almost like both have benefits and downsides and which is better depends on your priorities.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

It's almost like both have benefits and downsides and which is better depends on your priorities.

Or purchase justification

[lgans316]

Mods,

Can you please sticky this thread?

[Dubstar]

I somehow missed the news that the import 'Mary and the Witch's Flower' was in 10+

[TheSweetieMan]

Vincent Teoh’s recent HDR10/HDR10+ analysis, pretty much concludes that there’s a negligible difference between the two.

If people took Ralph Potts’ review at face value when he said there wasn’t a noticeable difference between HDR10 and Dolby Vision, then people are really going to be disappointed to find out that the dynamic metadata in HDR10+, doesn’t do enough to warrant being an alternative to Dolby Vision.

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by TheSweetieMan

Vincent Teoh’s recent HDR10/HDR10+ analysis, pretty much concludes that there’s a negligible difference between the two.

If people took Ralph Potts’ review at face value when he said there wasn’t a noticeable difference between HDR10 and Dolby Vision, then people are really going to be disappointed to find out that the dynamic metadata in HDR10+, doesn’t do enough to warrant being an alternative to Dolby Vision.

Aren't most of us chasing the best possible picture quality? VT prefers Dolby Vision and he has been like that for a long time.

Back to.topic, looks like the UHD will feature both cuts.