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Old 06-16-2009, 08:14 PM   #1
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I'm not all that certain what "cracked" means but as the only person in the world who more than enjoyed KotCS, I can say I'm excited to see this new one. But what I'm confused over is that everybody says that Spielberg's heart "wasn't in it". So why do another one? Idk, I just like big expolsions and non-sensical action accompanied by barely any story.

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Old 06-16-2009, 08:43 PM   #2
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Here's hoping they get a decent script this time.
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Old 06-16-2009, 08:53 PM   #3
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I also liked the Crystal Skull and just watched it again today. Being a Harley Davidson fan, it did urk me to see that Mutt's motorcycle had a twin cam motor in it, which wasn't available until 1999! Being the era of the movie was 1957, it should have had a panhead (48-65) or a knucklehead (36-47) motor in it. I'm just sayin.
Bring on Indy V!
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Old 06-16-2009, 09:35 PM   #4
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I also liked the Crystal Skull and just watched it again today. Being a Harley Davidson fan, it did urk me to see that Mutt's motorcycle had a twin cam motor in it, which wasn't available until 1999! Being the era of the movie was 1957, it should have had a panhead (48-65) or a knucklehead (36-47) motor in it. I'm just sayin.
Bring on Indy V!
It also had brakes that were not avaiable until the 70s and a slew of other boners as well. It was a freakin 2000's hodge podge.
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It also had brakes that were not avaiable until the 70s and a slew of other boners as well. It was a freakin 2000's hodge podge.
It's an alternate reality. Where Motorcycle technology was more advanced.

Thanks in part to all the artifacts that the government were reverse engineering.
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Old 06-16-2009, 09:40 PM   #6
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It's an alternate reality. Where Motorcycle technology was more advanced.

Thanks in part to all the artifacts that the government were reverse engineering.
Well now I have an all new respect for the movie.
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Old 06-16-2009, 10:33 PM   #7
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I also liked the Crystal Skull and just watched it again today. Being a Harley Davidson fan, it did urk me to see that Mutt's motorcycle had a twin cam motor in it, which wasn't available until 1999! Being the era of the movie was 1957, it should have had a panhead (48-65) or a knucklehead (36-47) motor in it. I'm just sayin.
Bring on Indy V!
You watched Indy 4... and the style of motorcycle is what you had a problem with..........

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Old 06-16-2009, 11:28 PM   #8
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You watched Indy 4... and the style of motorcycle is what you had a problem with..........

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You're going to need more than that in here as we've pretty well established this as a Indy 4 love thread. Respectfully, what did you not like about the film?
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:39 AM   #9
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You're going to need more than that in here as we've pretty well established this as a Indy 4 love thread. Respectfully, what did you not like about the film?
How much time do you have...?

It'd be easier to tell you what was 'right' with the movie. The only answer to that is the following:

The closing credits.

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Old 06-17-2009, 07:19 AM   #10
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You watched Indy 4... and the style of motorcycle is what you had a problem with..........

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'Crystal Skulll' haters just seem to have a serious problem with wrapping their brain around the fact that some of us could let go and have fun with it, probably because we didn't go into it already having the script written in our heads and come out angry because it turned out different. Like most others, I go to the movies to be entertained, not to get pissed off. It sold a ton of tickets, and a lot of home videos. Haters are the minority... a loud, outspoken minority.
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Old 06-17-2009, 04:45 PM   #11
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'Crystal Skulll' haters just seem to have a serious problem with wrapping their brain around the fact that some of us could let go and have fun with it, probably because we didn't go into it already having the script written in our heads and come out angry because it turned out different. Like most others, I go to the movies to be entertained, not to get pissed off. It sold a ton of tickets, and a lot of home videos. Haters are the minority... a loud, outspoken minority.
It's not a matter of letting go and having fun.

There are certain absolutely ridiculous things that take people out of their suspense of disbelief.

The funny response when I say that from the people who kiss Lucas' @$$ is that "it's an Indy movie... ridiculous stuff happens all the time like with the arc" My response to that is "yes and no" with the religious magical artifacts that's come to be expected because it's a fantasy movie. But when you don't expect it to happen like Indy getting nuked in a fridge, it tends to take people out of the movie with how asinine it is.

Also, haters aren't the minority, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367882/ You don't get a 6.7 rating by having people all over the movie love it.

Considering that on IMDB a 6.7 is about an average rating, that's pretty pathetic considering the amount of money that it made.

Not only that, most folks go to the movies to be entertained, but when what they're seeing could have easily been made by Uwe Boll that entertainment factor just isn't there. Give Uwe Boll the amount of a budget that Indy 4 had and you'll end up with a FAR better result.

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Old 06-17-2009, 09:00 PM   #12
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You watched Indy 4... and the style of motorcycle is what you had a problem with..........

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Actualy I love the style, just not the fact that it wasn't even close to what was available back then, but how many people would really have picked up on that.
Otherwise I had no problems with the movie and enjoy it every time I watch it. Maybe Indy 5 with have a bike from OCC!!
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:16 PM   #13
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:03 PM   #14
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Islam, or at least the Arabic cultures in general, have all kinds of artifacts that would fit, but they wouldn't be very recognizable to an audience, (the same way so much of the audience failed to recognize Shiva-lingum or crystal skulls)... except for maybe something silly like Aladdin's lamp. I don't think anybody really wants that. They already did Atlantis with a video game and book. The fountain of youth would be fun, and would be an Indy-appropriate theme, but it's a little too similar to what they did with the holy grail, and it might step on the toes of a future POTC movie, (not that I would mind that, at all). They're in the late fifties/early sixties now, so contemporary world events involve the cold war, the emergence of China, the beginnings of the Vietnam war, stuff like that... the time period kinda keeps the Russians on as obvious antagonists, and those world events are probably a good basis for bringing the story back to Asia. They've always tried to keep in reference to the matinees that were popular in the time period of the setting, and those were the days of the cowboy western movie, so I wouldn't be surprised if that were a significant element of Indy V... but you just can't have an Indy movie without lots of travel.

Whatever they come up with, it will be far from perfect, and it will certainly have far-fetched, impossible stunts like the fridge thing, or jumping out of a plane into the himalayas in a lifeboat and safely sledding all the way down to India, (which is at least as ridiculous as the fridge bit that apparently gave Jade a hemorrhoid and sent him on a crusade of hysterics against anybody enjoying KotCS). Millions of people will see it and enjoy it, and a community of people will get on IMDb and give it 0.5 stars and skew its rating well below its actual popularity. Internet trolls who represent a small portion of the American film audience will assure themselves that they represent everybody, they will grumble and stew for years and years to come, and they will especially be frustrated by the fact that Lucas & Spielberg cater to the demands of the paying audience instead of the impossible critics... and everyone will be happy, in their own way: the fans get their entertainment, the producers get their profit, and the grouches get something to pontificate about for the rest of their lives.

Speaking as an artist, I've gotta explain something to some of you people: we work for our fans, not our critics. It's a frustrating waste of time to even bother listening to somebody who smugly criticizes everything, but doesn't know the first thing about creating something beautiful or entertaining. So, in the case of these filmmakers, anybody who vomits out something so crass as "Lucas & Spielberg are lucky hacks who fell backwards into their success like a couple of lottery winners", you remove your opinion from any consideration. Why should they care about anything you have to say, at that point? For that matter, why should any fan of their movies listen to anything further that you have to say, at that point? There's a reason why some people are trusted with hundreds of millions of dollars of investor's money to make a film: they get results. The only "hack" is the person with no credentials and no results, who boasts "if you gave me $100million, I could make a movie ten times better than so-and-so". That is, at the very least, a megalomaniacal and ignorant statement, which utterly denies the creative power and hard work that goes into making a successful blockbuster. You're virtually denying the existence of artistic talent, by mocking those who have already demonstrated their gifts.

It always has been and always will be much, much easier to heckle and criticize, than to create.
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I really hope they revert back to the original style of the first 3, more-so the 1st and 3rd, but you get what I mean. Hope the next one is awesome!!
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I really hope they revert back to the original style of the first 3, more-so the 1st and 3rd, but you get what I mean. Hope the next one is awesome!!
There's nothing to revert to. Temple of Doom is really the only one that doesn't fit the mold.
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Old 06-16-2009, 08:58 PM   #17
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There's nothing to revert to. Temple of Doom is really the only one that doesn't fit the mold.
Sure there is. People loved the first one, the second was well...yeah, and then they loved the third one. There was a certain way the films were done, and people loved it. Then the new one came out and went on a GIANT tangent, and completely derailed from how the first 3 were. Just want to see a similar movie with this next one, hope it's great
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i really feel that Kingdom followed the same pattern as 1-3, really don't understand when people say it derailed from the originals.

i enjoyed Kingdom and hope a 5th is made!!!
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i really feel that Kingdom followed the same pattern as 1-3, really don't understand when people say it derailed from the originals.

i enjoyed Kingdom and hope a 5th is made!!!
Same here as well, I was not disapointed by Indy 4 and I will hope they do make another one.
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i really feel that Kingdom followed the same pattern as 1-3, really don't understand when people say it derailed from the originals.

i enjoyed Kingdom and hope a 5th is made!!!
Agreed
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