Do you think the upcoming slim PS3 will be able to bitsream lossless audio? - Blu-ray Forum

DrasticPlastic · 07-03-2009, 01:07 PM

I know the slim PS3 is still a rumor, but I think we all know it will eventually be a reality. Do you think Sony will have listened to everyones gripes and update the hardware so we can finally at least have the option to bistream losless audio?

detector19 · 07-03-2009, 01:15 PM

This may give the answer your looking for...

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/blu-...-lossless.html

DrasticPlastic · 07-03-2009, 01:30 PM

Any chance you can copy/paste the article for me, that site is blocked by the firewall at my work.

The Big Blue · 07-03-2009, 03:01 PM

No need. It's just a link to a thread at another forum where people with no inside knowledge ponder the issue. The same thing that's gonna happen here.

Rike255 · 07-03-2009, 03:36 PM

I have inside knowledge....but I'm not gonna share it anymore!

mtbkr · 07-03-2009, 04:51 PM

im going off topic so shoot me, but the one thing i wish for if they are going for hardware improvements is ir over hdmi. this way it can still use bluetooth for its gaming controllers yet use the ir from other compatible tv's or receivers to use universal remotes. i know that logitech just released their ps3 adapter, but if playstation wants a media center console then i think this would be a great improvement

Blu-Curry · 07-03-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rike255

I have inside knowledge....but I'm not gonna share it anymore!

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detector19 · 07-03-2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Big Blue

No need. It's just a link to a thread at another forum where people with no inside knowledge ponder the issue. The same thing that's gonna happen here.

Yes thats right thats the point theirs on way to tell for certain until it comes out...

Steve · 07-03-2009, 06:12 PM

I would rather it have an IR receiver so my Harmony One will work with it without having to buy an adapter.

Danger Duck · 07-04-2009, 11:35 PM

I thought bitstream and linear pcm sounded the same...

?

What's the difference?

Icemage · 07-04-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danger Duck

I thought bitstream and linear pcm sounded the same...

?

What's the difference?

There's not, except some people claim they can hear a difference between lossless audio decoded flawlessly by their PS3 verses the same lossless audio decoded flawlessly by their receiver.

Danger Duck · 07-05-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Icemage

There's not, except some people claim they can hear a difference between lossless audio decoded flawlessly by their PS3 verses the same lossless audio decoded flawlessly by their receiver.

That's what I thought. But if there is enough factual information out there stating what you have just said than what's the big deal? If it sounds the same it really does not matter.
Maybe this is just everyones "OCD" taking over because they want their receiver to say "DTS" or "TrueHD" rather than "MULTI IN" or whatever else.... that would be nice though..

Icemage · 07-05-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Danger Duck

That's what I thought. But if there is enough factual information out there stating what you have just said than what's the big deal? If it sounds the same it really does not matter.

Maybe this is just everyones "OCD" taking over because they want their receiver to say "DTS" or "TrueHD" rather than "MULTI IN" or whatever else.... that would be nice though..

I think it's more a psychological issue of "I paid XXXX dollars for this receiver that can decode all these codecs and there's no way to make use of that function". Yes, it conveniently ignores the fact that the PS3 handles all of that flawlessly anyway, but some people just like to feel like their purchase was justified, and will go to retarded and silly lengths to do so.

CasualKiller · 07-05-2009, 04:30 PM

The loss less codecs when compressed contain a protective layer that prevents errors in the bitstream on it's way to decoding. These errors are mostly timing issues due to HDMI jitter. So where as the bitstream is protected all the way from the source to your receiver, the PS3 in this instance sends out a fully decoded, unprotected signal that is more prone to HDMI related errors. As of this moment Denon has the only player on the market designed to completely eliminate jitter issues.

Can you hear a difference created by these errors? Some say they can, me personally I cannot, I just like to see "TrueHD" on my panel.

07-03-2009, 01:07 PM	#1
DrasticPlastic Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Trading Score:2	Do you think the upcoming slim PS3 will be able to bitsream lossless audio? I know the slim PS3 is still a rumor, but I think we all know it will eventually be a reality. Do you think Sony will have listened to everyones gripes and update the hardware so we can finally at least have the option to bistream losless audio?

07-03-2009, 04:51 PM	#6
mtbkr Active Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:washington(state) Blu-ray collection:65	im going off topic so shoot me, but the one thing i wish for if they are going for hardware improvements is ir over hdmi. this way it can still use bluetooth for its gaming controllers yet use the ir from other compatible tv's or receivers to use universal remotes. i know that logitech just released their ps3 adapter, but if playstation wants a media center console then i think this would be a great improvement Last edited by mtbkr; 07-03-2009 at 05:07 PM.

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07-03-2009, 01:15 PM	#2
detector19 Active Member Member since:May 2007 Location:New York 4K collection:97 Blu-ray collection:437	This may give the answer your looking for... http://forums.highdefdigest.com/blu-...-lossless.html

07-03-2009, 01:30 PM	#3
DrasticPlastic Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Trading Score:2	Any chance you can copy/paste the article for me, that site is blocked by the firewall at my work.

07-03-2009, 03:01 PM	#4
The Big Blue Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:98 Blu-ray reviews:1	No need. It's just a link to a thread at another forum where people with no inside knowledge ponder the issue. The same thing that's gonna happen here.

07-03-2009, 03:36 PM	#5
Rike255 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:AB, Canada PSNetwork: Rike255 Home Theater Gallery:44 Blu-ray collection:57	I have inside knowledge....but I'm not gonna share it anymore!

07-03-2009, 06:12 PM	#9
Steve Blu-ray Knight Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Location:Anna, TX 4K collection:128 Blu-ray collection:416 Trading Score:41	I would rather it have an IR receiver so my Harmony One will work with it without having to buy an adapter.

07-04-2009, 11:35 PM	#10
Danger Duck Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1	I thought bitstream and linear pcm sounded the same... ? What's the difference?

07-05-2009, 04:30 PM	#14
CasualKiller Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Brooks Alberta Blu-ray collection:54 Trading Score:15	The loss less codecs when compressed contain a protective layer that prevents errors in the bitstream on it's way to decoding. These errors are mostly timing issues due to HDMI jitter. So where as the bitstream is protected all the way from the source to your receiver, the PS3 in this instance sends out a fully decoded, unprotected signal that is more prone to HDMI related errors. As of this moment Denon has the only player on the market designed to completely eliminate jitter issues. Can you hear a difference created by these errors? Some say they can, me personally I cannot, I just like to see "TrueHD" on my panel.

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