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Interesting article from eSkeptic, the email newsletter of the Skeptic Society:

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Audiophoolery
by Ethan Winer

YOU MIGHT THINK that a science-based field like audio engineering would be immune to the kind of magical thinking we see in other fields. Unfortunately, you would be wrong. In my 35 years as a professional audio engineer and musician, I�ve seen some of the most outrageous pseudoscience sold to consumers, and even to other audio pros who should know better. Not unlike claims for alternative medicine, nonsense is shrouded in scientific-sounding jargon to confuse the uneducated, or a sales pitch will cite science that is legitimate but irrelevant. The result is endless arguments among audiophiles over basic scientific principles that have been fully understood for fifty years or more.

As a consumerist, it galls me to see people pay thousands of dollars for fancy-looking wire that’s no better than the heavy lamp cord they can buy at any hardware store. Or magic isolation pads and little discs made from exotic hardwood that purport to “improve clarity and reduce listening fatigue,” among other surprising claims. The number of scams based on ignorance of basic audio science grows every day. Surely some of these vendors know they’re selling snake oil, but I’m certain that just as many believe their own hype. I’d respect these people more if I thought they knew they were conning people!

Few of us have unlimited budgets and must spend what funds we have wisely. Therefore, the purpose of this article is to help consumers distinguish truth from fiction in order to determine what is and is not worthwhile. Experience has shown that it’s futile to claim I know what someone else can or cannot hear. Therefore, I will relate only those things that matter to my experienced ears, and explain what makes sense from the perspective of science and logic. You don’t need an engineering degree to understand the explanations that follow, though I’ll assume you’ve played with a stereo receiver and CD player or cassette deck a few times. I’ll begin by defining the four basic audio parameters so that when I describe some common audiophile scams you’ll understand why they are scams.

Audio Parameters Defined
Only four parameters are needed to define everything that matters for audio reproduction: Noise, frequency response, distortion, and timebased errors. Let’s look at each of these in turn.

1. Noise is the background hiss you hear when you turn your receiver way up, and you can also hear it during quiet passages when playing open reel or cassette tapes. A close cousin is dynamic range, which defines the span (expressed in decibels) between the background noise and the loudest level possible before the onset of gross distortion. CDs and DVDs have a very large dynamic range, so any noise you may hear was either from the original analog tape, was added as a byproduct during production, or was present in the room and picked up by the microphones when the recording was first made.

Subsets of noise are AC power-related hum and buzz, electronic crackling, vinyl record clicks and pops, between-station radio noises, tape modulation noise, and the triboelectric cable effect. You’re unlikely to notice tape modulation noise outside of a recording studio because it’s specific to analog tape recorders, which are fast becoming obsolete, and it is usually hidden by the music itself. You can sometimes hear it if you listen carefully to a recording of a bass solo, where each note is accompanied by a “pfft” sound that disappears between the notes. The triboelectric effect is also called “handling noise” because it occurs when handling poorly made cables. I haven’t seen a cable with this defect in about 20 years.

2. Frequency response is how uniformly a device responds over a range of frequencies. Errors are heard as too much or too little bass, midrange, or treble. For most people, the audible range extends from about 25 Hz at the low end, to just shy of 20 KHz at the high end. Even though many audiophiles believe it’s important for audio equipment to respond to frequencies far beyond 20 KHz, in truth there is no need to reproduce ultrasonic content because nobody can hear it. Subsets of frequency response are physical microphonics, electronic ringing and oscillation, and acoustic ringing. These subsets are not necessary for consumers to understand, but they are important to design engineers and acousticians.

3. Distortion is the common word for the more technical term nonlinearity, and it adds new frequency components that were not present in the original source. When music passes through a device that adds distortion, new frequencies are created that may or may not be pleasing to the ear. The design goal for audio equipment is that all distortion be so low in level that it can’t be heard. I’ll return later to the notion that distortion can be pleasing when I explain why some audiophiles prefer vinyl records and tube-based electronics.

There are two basic types of distortion—harmonic and intermodulation—and both are almost always present together. Harmonic distortion adds new frequencies that are musically related to the source. In layman terms, harmonic distortion adds a slightly thick or buzzy quality to music. All musical instruments create tones having harmonics, so a device whose distortion adds a little more merely changes the instrument’s character by some amount. Electric guitar players use harmonic distortion—often lots of it—to turn a guitar’s inherent plink-plink sound into a singing tone having great power and sustain.

Intermodulation (IM) distortion requires two or more frequencies to be present, and it’s far more damaging because it creates new content that is musically unrelated to the original. Even in relatively small amounts, intermodulation distortion adds a dissonant quality that is unpleasant to hear. Another type of distortion is called aliasing, and it’s unique to digital recording. Like IM distortion, aliasing creates new frequencies not harmonically related to the original, and so is unpleasant and irritating to hear. Fortunately, in all modern digital gear, aliasing is so low in level that it’s inaudible.

4. Time-based errors affect mainly pitch and tempo. If you’ve ever played an old LP record where the hole was not quite centered, you’ve heard the pitch rise and fall with each revolution. This is called wow. Analog tape recorders suffer from a different type of pitch instability called flutter. Unlike the slow pitch change of wow, flutter is more rapid, producing a warbling effect. Digital recorders have a unique type of timing deviation called jitter, but with all modern equipment, jitter is so much softer than the music that you’ll never hear it. The last type of time-based error is phase shift, but it’s benign even in relatively large amounts.

Room acoustics could be considered a fifth audio parameter, but it really isn’t. Nearby room boundaries can create frequency response errors (called comb filtering) due to wave reflections combining in the air. Reflections can also create audible echoes and reverb, but these are timebased phenomenon that occur outside the equipment, so they don’t warrant their own category either.

The above parameters encompass everything that affects audio fidelity. If a device has noise and distortion too low to hear, a response sufficient to capture the entire range of audible frequencies, and time-based errors small enough to be insignificant, then that device will be audibly transparent to music and other sound passing through it. However, clarity and stereo imaging are greatly affected by room acoustics; without question, the room you listen in has far more effect on sound quality than any of the audio components.

You may have noticed that several times I referred to errors that can be too soft to hear, like the inherent background noise of a CD, or are inaudible because they’re much softer than the music and are thus masked by the music. Masking is an important concept because it prevents us from hearing low-level artifacts in the presence of a source that is louder—especially if both contain similar frequencies. For example, low frequency hum caused by a bad connection is the same volume whether the music is playing or not. So when you stop the CD, you can more easily hear the hum. If the music consists of a cymbal or tambourine only, you’ll hear the hum even while the music plays because those instruments contain primarily high frequencies. But when drums or a bass play, those instruments will probably mask the hum. Some artifacts like tape modulation noise and jitter occur only while the music plays. So unless they’re fairly loud, they won’t be audible at all.

The Cable Guy
The earliest audio scam I can recall is fancy wire for connecting loudspeakers, and it’s still going strong. These days vendors claim their wire yields better sound quality when compared to normal wire, and, of course, it’s much more expensive than normal wire. In truth, the most important property of speaker wire is resistance, which is a function of its thickness. The resistance must be low to pass the high-current signals a power amplifier delivers. For short distances— say, up to five feet—16-gauge wire of any type is adequate, though thicker wire is needed for longer runs.

The three other wire parameters are inductance, capacitance, and skin effect. But those are not a factor with usual cable lengths at audio frequencies, especially when connecting speakers to a power amplifier. Low capacitance wire can be important in special cases, such as between a phonograph cartridge and its preamp. But high quality, low capacitance wire can be had for pennies per foot. Wire scams are very popular because wire is a low-tech device that’s simple to manufacture and the profit margin is extremely high. I could devote this entire article to wire scams, but instead I’ll just summarize that any audio (or video) cable costing more than a few dollars per foot is a rip-off.

Even sillier than expensive speaker wire is replacement AC power cords and most other power “conditioner” products. The sales claims sound logical: Noise and static can get into your gear through the power line and damage the sound. In severe cases it’s possible for powerrelated clicks and buzzes to get into your system, but those are easily noticed. The suggestion that subtle changes in “clarity and presence” can occur is plain fraud. Indeed, every competent circuit designer knows how to filter out power line noise, and such protection is routinely added to all commercial audio products. Spending hundreds of dollars on a six-foot replacement power cord ignores the other hundred-odd feet of regular wire between the wall outlet and power pole.

Some audio scams are so blatant you wonder how anyone could fall for them, like a replacement volume control knob that sells for $485. The ad copy proclaims, “The new knobs are custom made with beech wood and bronze … How can this make a difference??? Well, hearing is believing as we always say. The sound becomes much more open and free flowing with a nice improvement in resolution. Dynamics are better and overall naturalness is improved.” Yes, I bet that’s just what they always say. Wood is a common theme among audiophile scams, falsely implying a relation to a fine old violin where the wood’s vibration really is a part of the sound. But a volume control knob?

Do You Hear What I Hear?
Among devoted audiophiles, one of the most hotly debated topics is the notion that ultrasonic frequencies are necessary for high fidelity reproduction. Put aside for a moment that no human can hear much past 20 KHz. Few microphones respond to frequencies beyond that, and even fewer loudspeakers can reproduce that high. If maintaining an extended frequency response were free, I’d have little objection. But in this digital age, storing frequencies higher than necessary waste memory, media space, and bandwidth. Even sillier is the way audio is handled on DVD soundtracks. DVDs accommodate frequencies up to 96 KHz, but then “lossy”data compression— which results in an audible loss in quality—is often needed to make it fit! Record companies and equipment manufacturers just love that millions of people replaced all their old LPs and cassettes with CDs. They’re trying very hard to get us to buy all the same titles, and new gear to play them, yet again with the false promise of fidelity that exceeds CDs.

Another popular scam is mechanical isolation devices. The claims have a remote basis in science that are skewed to suggest importance where none is justified. If you ever owned a turntable, you know how sensitive it can be to mechanical vibration. Unless you walk lightly, the record can skip, and if you turn up the volume too high, you’ll get a low frequency feedback. A turntable is a mechanical device that relies on physical contact between the needle and the record’s surface. CDs (and DVDs) work on an entirely different principle that is immune to mechanical vibration. As the CD spins, the digital data is read into a memory buffer, and from there it is sent to your receiver or headphones. Several seconds of music are always in the player’s buffer, so if the player is jostled enough that the CD mistracks, it simply sends from the buffer until the drive can find its place again. Large buffers are common on CD players meant for joggers for this exact reason.

Isolation has no advantage for other electronic gear either. You can spend thousands of dollars on fancy isolation devices for preamps and receivers, yet they don’t improve the sound even a tiny bit (though mechanical isolation with loudspeakers is valid). A related scam is cable elevators— small devices that prevent your wires from touching the floor. Like so many other audiophile “tweak” products, the claims for cable elevators sound magical, and they surely are.

Bi-wiring is a more recent scam, and it’s a pretend relative to bi-amping, which is legitimate. No single speaker driver can reproduce the entire range of audible frequencies, so manufacturers use two or three drivers—called woofers and tweeters—to handle the different ranges. Biamping splits the audio into low/high or low/mid/high ranges, and each range is sent to a separate power amplifier that in turn powers each speaker driver. This avoids passive crossovers that add distortion. Bi-wiring uses two separate speaker wires, but they’re both connected to the same single power amplifier and a passive crossover!

Vinyl records and vacuum tube equipment are very popular with devoted audiophiles who believe these old school technologies more faithfully reproduce subtle nuance. There’s no question that LPs and tubes sound different from CDs and solid state gear. But are they better? Not in any way you could possibly measure. Common to both is much higher distortion; LPs in particular have more inherent noise and a poorer high frequency response, especially when playing the inner grooves. I’m convinced that some people prefer tubes and vinyl because the subtle distortion they add sounds pleasing to them. Adding small amounts of distortion can make a recording sound more cohesive, for lack of a better word. Recording engineers sometimes add distortion intentionally to imitate the sound of tubes and analog tape, and I’ve done this myself. Simply copying a song to a cassette tape and back adds a slight thickening that can be pleasing if the instrumentation is sparse. But clearly this is an artificial effect, not higher fidelity.

Other common scams are small devices that claim to improve room acoustics. You can pay a hundred dollars each for small pieces of rare wood the size and shape of hockey pucks. The sellers instruct you to place them around your room to improve its acoustics. But with acoustics, what matters is covering a sufficient percentage of the room’s surface. Real acoustic treatment is large and not always conducive to a living room (as my wife will attest), so lots of folks want very much to believe that something small and unobtrusive will solve their bad acoustics. If only it were possible.

Free, But Stupid Anyway
The key to identifying most audio scams is the very high prices charged. As an audio pro, I know that $1,000 can buy a state of the art power amplifier. So it makes no sense to pay, say, $17,000 for an amplifier that is no better and may well be worse. However, some scams are more like urban legends — no products are sold, but they’re still a waste of time. For example, one early legend was that you can improve the sound of a CD by painting its outer edge with a green felt marker pen. Yes, it must be green. (I guess other colors won’t create the proper energy field.) A related legend is that cables and electronic devices must be “broken in” for some period of time before they achieve their final highest fidelity. Aside from a manufacturing defect, the notion that wire or a solid state circuit changes audibly over time makes no sense. This legend becomes a scam when you deal with a vendor who says you must break in the product for 90 days to realize a benefit. Why 90 days? Because credit card purchases are protected for only 60 days.

The Devil is in the Details
As you have learned, all four audio parameters are important, but what matters most is their magnitude. Test data is sometimes graphed at low resolution to hide the true performance. So a frequency response line may look reasonably straight, implying a uniform response, yet a closer examination shows that each vertical division on the graph represents a substantial deviation. Using excessively large graph divisions is just another way scammers try to fool uneducated buyers.

Many (but not all) audiophile magazine reviews include impressive-looking graphs that imply science but are sorely lacking if you know what the graphs actually mean. Numerous irrelevant data is presented while important specs are omitted. For example, the phase response of a loudspeaker is shown but not its distortion, which is far more important. One magazine recently reviewed a $4,400 tube preamplifier so poorly designed that it verged on self-oscillation (a high-pitched squealing sound). The reviewer even acknowledged the defect, yet still summarized by saying, “Impressive, and very highly recommended.” The ignorance and misguided loyalty of some audiophile magazines is a significant problem in this business.

Many of the scams I have described do have a factual basis in science, but the effects are so infinitesimal that they can’t possibly make audible differences. I often see “believers” proclaim that science has not yet found a way to measure what they are convinced they can hear. In truth, it’s quite the other way around. We can easily measure jitter that’s 120 dB below the music, which is a typical amount and is about 1,000 times softer than could be audible. Likewise for distortion, frequency response, and noise, especially when you factor in the ear’s susceptibility to masking. Many audiophiles truly believe they hear a change in quality, even when none can possibly exist.

The biggest variables in audio quality come from transducers—microphones and loudspeakers that, being mechanical devices, must physically vibrate. When assessing frequency response and distortion, the finest loudspeakers in the world are far worse than the cheapest electronic device. And any room you put the speakers in will exaggerate that already poor response even further.

Like the Emperor’s New Clothes, many people let themselves be conned into believing that a higher truth exists, even if they cannot hear it. There is no disputing that hearing can be improved with practice and that you can learn to recognize detail, but that’s not the same as imagining something that doesn’t exist at all. And, logically speaking, just because a large number of people believe something does not alone make it true.

It can be difficult to prove or disprove issues like those I have presented here because human auditory perception is so fragile and our memory is so short. With A/B testing—where you switch between one version and another to audition the difference—it is mandatory that the switch be performed very quickly. If it takes you fifteen minutes to hook up a replacement amplifier, it will be very hard to tell if there truly was a difference, compared to being able to switch between them instantly. Even when switching quickly, it is important that both amplifiers be set to exactly the same volume level.

When all else is equal, people will generally pick the brighter (or just louder) version as sounding better, unless of course it was already too loud or bright. People sometimes report a difference even in an “A/A” test, where nothing changed! And just because something sounds “better,” it is not necessarily higher fidelity. Boosting the treble and bass tone controls often makes music sound “better,” but that is not more faithful to the original source material.

Beliefs and the placebo effect are very strong. When people argue about things like this on the Internet, it’s commonly referred to as “religious arguments.” I’ve even heard people argue against double-blind testing, claiming such tests “break the mood” and thus invalidate the results. Sound familiar? That’s just like the psychics who, when tested publicly, blame their failure on negative vibes from the skeptical testers.

Psychological factors like expectation and fatigue are equally important. If I brag to a friend how great my home theater sounds and that person comes for a visit, it always sounds worse to me while we’re both listening. Finally, it is important to consider the source of any claim, though someone’s financial interest in a product doesn’t mean the claims are necessarily untrue. But there’s more than a little truth to the popular sentiment, “The most important person in a company that makes audiophile speaker wire is the head of marketing.”
It's a bit long and there's not a lot of new ground covered, but it's nice to see something fairly concise for the novice.

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HaHaHaHa. I love listening to engineers. Everyone should read this before they buy the next latest and greatest whatchamacallit.
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Yeah, I agree and get kind of skeptical myself about wires and wiring, especially bi-wiring which doesn't make sense to me either.

I think vacuum tubes do make a tremendous difference, though, for audio. Maybe not so much for audio in movies, but definitely in music. Vacuum tubes clip (and therefore distort) much more gradually than transistors and produce even-order harmonics which sound 'warmer' and that has a sound that many musicians prefer which is why many choose Marshall amps (including me). Vacuum tubes can also vibrate mechanically, which he even says is the biggest factor in audio signal reproduction. But I'm sure the audio gurus on this site will have much more to say than a novice like me
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Yeah, I agree and get kind of skeptical myself about wires and wiring, especially bi-wiring which doesn't make sense to me either.

I think vacuum tubes do make a tremendous difference, though, for audio. Maybe not so much for audio in movies, but definitely in music. Vacuum tubes clip (and therefore distort) much more gradually than transistors and produce even-order harmonics which sound 'warmer' and that has a sound that many musicians prefer which is why many choose Marshall amps (including me). Vacuum tubes can also vibrate mechanically, which he even says is the biggest factor in audio signal reproduction. But I'm sure the audio gurus on this site will have much more to say than a novice like me
I don't think this guy is being critical of those who prefer tube amps because they prefer the sound. I do think he's being critical of those who make fidelity claims regarding tube amps.
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Yeah, there's a lot of 'Scam' in the audio industry. Both also science doesn't know everything, otherwise we would go at the speed of light... Also each person is different so interpretation of Audio Quality varies a LOT!

You can always compare this with cars. A 10,000$ car will do the exact same thing as a 400,000$ one. It may be not as fast but it's still a car.

In speakers and AV gears, a lot of time you pay a great deal of money for design and R&D withc is done at a much lower level than Electronic Giant.

He's right tought, the most important thing for sound is the Room and how it react.

LP and CD are different. Most likely because since the CD is here, most audio technicien have boosted the DB so much that a lot of instruments and sound is lost. You can take any 1970,80 LP, play it and take a 'remaster' in 2000+ and hear the loss because of overboosting... (depending on who's done it)
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Where can a feller get himself one of them wooden volumne knobs?
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Ethan's a great guy, and he knows his acoustics. But I disagree with many of his views about other aspects of audio and sound quality. Y'see, I listen with my ears, not an oscilloscope of DVM...

The "measurements are king" brigade fails to take into account that not everything that is important is currently measured. For example, how does one measure imaging (i.e., the placement of an instrument within a 3D space)? I have no idea, but using my ears, I can hear how different bits of gear do better or worse jobs of reproducing a sound field.
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Ethan's a great guy, and he knows his acoustics. But I disagree with many of his views about other aspects of audio and sound quality. Y'see, I listen with my ears, not an oscilloscope of DVM...
You know that author? If so, cool.

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The "measurements are king" brigade fails to take into account that not everything that is important is currently measured. For example, how does one measure imaging (i.e., the placement of an instrument within a 3D space)? I have no idea, but using my ears, I can hear how different bits of gear do better or worse jobs of reproducing a sound field.
You make a very good point here. I don't believe there are instruments that can measure the sort intagibles you talk about here. I think the real thrust of what Ethan writes here is aimed at the obvious snake oil and the claims which can be demonstrated as false through objective measurement. However, as he states, placebo does play a very active role in sensory perception.

Winer links to an article, Science and Subjectivism in Audio, (which I haven't read yet) touching on this more.

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Ethan's a great guy, and he knows his acoustics. But I disagree with many of his views about other aspects of audio and sound quality. Y'see, I listen with my ears, not an oscilloscope of DVM...

The "measurements are king" brigade fails to take into account that not everything that is important is currently measured. For example, how does one measure imaging (i.e., the placement of an instrument within a 3D space)? I have no idea, but using my ears, I can hear how different bits of gear do better or worse jobs of reproducing a sound field.
Right on Rich! I've been trying to get this point across for years to almost anyone who will listen. Unfortunately the "scientists" only have eyes for graphs!

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Ethan's a great guy, and he knows his acoustics. But I disagree with many of his views about other aspects of audio and sound quality. Y'see, I listen with my ears, not an oscilloscope of DVM...

The "measurements are king" brigade fails to take into account that not everything that is important is currently measured. For example, how does one measure imaging (i.e., the placement of an instrument within a 3D space)? I have no idea, but using my ears, I can hear how different bits of gear do better or worse jobs of reproducing a sound field.
Rich, here is Ethan's response:
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Rich asks, "how does one measure imaging?"

This is very easy! The way to assess stereo spread is with a phase 'scope,
though I'm sure that's not what Rich means. In the sense of a listener - not
a recording or mastering engineer - good imaging is all about avoiding the
comb filtering that results from early reflections. It's that simple. When
those reflection are absorbed (or redirected away from the listener), good
imaging is assured. So in this case the measurement for imaging is simple
frequency response.

This article explains it:

http://www.realtraps.com/rfz.htm

And Figure 1 shows the response measurements that prove the point.
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Where can a feller get himself one of them wooden volumne knobs?
I was wondering the same. I'll get right on that
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...science doesn't know everything...
This is a non sequitur. No, science doesn't know everything. No one claimed science knows everything. And what science doesn't know is irrelevant to this article. (You can't say, "Well science can't eradicate the common cold, therefore astrology works.") This guy is talking about expensive audio products that offer no objective improvement to the listener.

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Also each person is different so interpretation of Audio Quality varies a LOT!
Yes, it does. This article does not address what or why someone may prefer tube amps (for example) to solid state. That's a matter of preference and no one can argue about that. The author is just laying out examples of silly products that do things which don't matter or offer a worthless--but expensive--"improvement". He looks not at personal preference, but claims of objective, quantifiable improvement.

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You can always compare this with cars. A 10,000$ car will do the exact same thing as a 400,000$ one. It may be not as fast but it's still a car.
Design, style, quality of materials, etc. play a variable part in the cost of any product. This article is not about such elements. It's about specific claims--not of subjective "style"--and objective performance. And any $400k car should be able to perform measurably better than any $10k car. Comfort has a hard to measure value so you can leave that out, but you can measure 0-60 acceleration time.

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In speakers and AV gears, a lot of time you pay a great deal of money for design and R&D with is done at a much lower level than Electronic Giant.
I agree that R&D can elevate cost, but this is usually just on the front-end of adoption of new technology (see Blu-ray prices in 2007 vs. 2010) or the launch of a new product. As I said before, the cost of design is an intangible that only the market can determine, but how much R&D went into Pear Anjou speaker cables? If a person wants to spend $7,250 on a 12 foot pair of speaker cables I say he can do whatever he wants with his money. However, Pear has no business making claims that such cables can perform any better than Monster, Monoprice, etc. speaker cables. That's what the author is talking about--not personal preference, but testable claims supported by independent, controlled data.

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Among devoted audiophiles, one of the most hotly debated topics is the notion that ultrasonic frequencies are necessary for high fidelity reproduction. Put aside for a moment that no human can hear much past 20 KHz. Few microphones respond to frequencies beyond that, and even fewer loudspeakers can reproduce that high. If maintaining an extended frequency response were free, I’d have little objection. But in this digital age, storing frequencies higher than necessary waste memory, media space, and bandwidth. Even sillier is the way audio is handled on DVD soundtracks. DVDs accommodate frequencies up to 96 KHz, but then “lossy”data compression— which results in an audible loss in quality—is often needed to make it fit! Record companies and equipment manufacturers just love that millions of people replaced all their old LPs and cassettes with CDs. They’re trying very hard to get us to buy all the same titles, and new gear to play them, yet again with the false promise of fidelity that exceeds CDs.
I think this is being misinterpreted, the 96 kHz for DVDs is the maximum sampling rate for 2ch PCM tracks which are lossless, meaning no compression. The sampling rate is not the same as the frequency range. According to the Nyquist Shannon sampling theorem, "a bandlimited analog signal that has been sampled can be perfectly reconstructed from an infinite sequence of samples if the sampling rate exceeds 2B samples per second, where B is the highest frequency in the original signal". Meaning to reproduce a 20 kHz sound, you need a sampling rate greater than 40 kHz. Therefore the 96 kHz sampling rate would reproduce sounds lower than 48 kHz. Lossy multichannels DVD soundtracks have a maximum sampling rate of 48 kHz (most are at 44.1 kHz) which is slightly above the rate required for a 20 kHz sound. Therefore the lossy compression was required to make soundtracks containing material inside the normal human hearing of 20 Hz - 20 kHz (which varies with people and decreases with age) fit; not because of ultrasonic frequencies. So I don't know why he's calling that "silly".

Also, 2B sampling rate is the minimum required; greater sampling rate means that a greater number of samples are taken from the continuous signal to make a discrete signal. The goal of a greater sampling rate is to reproduce more precisely the original continuous signal. That's why Blu-Ray allows great sampling rate for greater fidelity and not for reproducing ultrasonic frequencies.

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The earliest audio scam I can recall is fancy wire for connecting loudspeakers, and it’s still going strong. These days vendors claim their wire yields better sound quality when compared to normal wire, and, of course, it’s much more expensive than normal wire. In truth, the most important property of speaker wire is resistance, which is a function of its thickness. The resistance must be low to pass the high-current signals a power amplifier delivers. For short distances— say, up to five feet—16-gauge wire of any type is adequate, though thicker wire is needed for longer runs.
I would just specify that the material has a great impact on resistance and that price/value-wise copper wires would be the best choice

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Even sillier than expensive speaker wire is replacement AC power cords and most other power “conditioner” products. The sales claims sound logical: Noise and static can get into your gear through the power line and damage the sound. In severe cases it’s possible for powerrelated clicks and buzzes to get into your system, but those are easily noticed. The suggestion that subtle changes in “clarity and presence” can occur is plain fraud. Indeed, every competent circuit designer knows how to filter out power line noise, and such protection is routinely added to all commercial audio products. Spending hundreds of dollars on a six-foot replacement power cord ignores the other hundred-odd feet of regular wire between the wall outlet and power pole.
Stating that "protection is routinely added to all commercial audio products" is a bit vague. Although I'm not familiar with the means to filter out power line noise I would think that there are more than one way to do it. Selection of components in commercial products is driven by cost and not necessarily by quality. Therefore using power conditioning products can have an impact on audio quality (I'm not saying that every all power conditioning products have an impact or the impact is significant).

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I think this is being misinterpreted, the 96 kHz for DVDs is the maximum sampling rate for 2ch PCM tracks which are lossless, meaning no compression. The sampling rate is not the same as the frequency range. According to the Nyquist Shannon sampling theorem, "a bandlimited analog signal that has been sampled can be perfectly reconstructed from an infinite sequence of samples if the sampling rate exceeds 2B samples per second, where B is the highest frequency in the original signal". Meaning to reproduce a 20 kHz sound, you need a sampling rate greater than 40 kHz. Therefore the 96 kHz sampling rate would reproduce sounds lower than 48 kHz. Lossy multichannels DVD soundtracks have a maximum sampling rate of 48 kHz (most are at 44.1 kHz) which is slightly above the rate required for a 20 kHz sound. Therefore the lossy compression was required to make soundtracks containing material inside the normal human hearing of 20 Hz - 20 kHz (which varies with people and decreases with age) fit; not because of ultrasonic frequencies. So I don't know why he's calling that "silly".

Also, 2B sampling rate is the minimum required; greater sampling rate means that a greater number of samples are taken from the continuous signal to make a discrete signal. The goal of a greater sampling rate is to reproduce more precisely the original continuous signal. That's why Blu-Ray allows great sampling rate for greater fidelity and not for reproducing ultrasonic frequencies.
Isn't 192 kHz/24-bit the max for 2CH?
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I think this is being misinterpreted, the 96 kHz for DVDs is the maximum sampling rate for 2ch PCM tracks which are lossless, meaning no compression. The sampling rate is not the same as the frequency range. According to the Nyquist Shannon sampling theorem, "a bandlimited analog signal that has been sampled can be perfectly reconstructed from an infinite sequence of samples if the sampling rate exceeds 2B samples per second, where B is the highest frequency in the original signal". Meaning to reproduce a 20 kHz sound, you need a sampling rate greater than 40 kHz. Therefore the 96 kHz sampling rate would reproduce sounds lower than 48 kHz. Lossy multichannels DVD soundtracks have a maximum sampling rate of 48 kHz (most are at 44.1 kHz) which is slightly above the rate required for a 20 kHz sound. Therefore the lossy compression was required to make soundtracks containing material inside the normal human hearing of 20 Hz - 20 kHz (which varies with people and decreases with age) fit; not because of ultrasonic frequencies. So I don't know why he's calling that "silly".

Also, 2B sampling rate is the minimum required; greater sampling rate means that a greater number of samples are taken from the continuous signal to make a discrete signal. The goal of a greater sampling rate is to reproduce more precisely the original continuous signal. That's why Blu-Ray allows great sampling rate for greater fidelity and not for reproducing ultrasonic frequencies.

Stating that "protection is routinely added to all commercial audio products" is a bit vague. Although I'm not familiar with the means to filter out power line noise I would think that there are more than one way to do it. Selection of components in commercial products is driven by cost and not necessarily by quality. Therefore using power conditioning products can have an impact on audio quality (I'm not saying that every all power conditioning products have an impact or the impact is significant).
Johk, I forwarded a summary of your concerns on to the author. Here is his response:

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I'm well aware of the 2x sampling theory. When I wrote that article I looked
up the DVD specs, and as I recall DVDs support sample rates up to 192 KHz.
However, the poster might be correct that "Lossy multichannels DVD
soundtracks have a maximum sampling rate of 48 kHz."

This next part is definitely wrong:

"The goal of a greater sampling rate is to reproduce more precisely the
original continuous signal."

Sampling theory, which is known correct, states that any frequency up to 1/2
the sample frequency can be reproduced perfectly. There are no time gaps, no
lack of continuity, and so forth. That is ensured by the "reconstruction
filter" in the D/A converter, which is a basic low-pass filter.

As for AC power filters, my objection is to marketing claims of increased
transparency and improved sound stage ad nauseum. If you hear a click every
time your refrigerator kicks in, then a filter can fix that. But otherwise
AC filters don't change the basic sound quality.
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