Blu-ray player prices better.........

[septic death]

drop in price to match HD DVD players or its game over by years end. I am getting worried about blu ray, my collection of BD movies is growing but may slow down or stop till one comes out on top.


Anyone else getting worried about the outcome of all this crap? I thought Blu Ray had it wrapped up until last week and now cheap HD DVD players are coming.

[Zaphod]

Originally Posted by septic death

drop in price to match HD DVD players or its game over by years end. I am getting worried about blu ray, my collection of BD movies is growing but may slow down or stop till one comes out on top.


Anyone else getting worried about the outcome of all this crap? I thought Blu Ray had it wrapped up until last week and now cheap HD DVD players are coming.

No worries...cheap players will not decide the outcome.

[tron3]

Originally Posted by Zaphod

No worries...cheap players will not decide the outcome.

At best HD-DVD MIGHT catch up with exisiting blu-ray sales. But they are still several laps behind. Smart consumers will still ask, "What does everyone have?" They will see the selection in the stores and from rental experience at their local Block Buster, will remember seeing only blu-ray.

With the current installed base of blu-ray growing every week, this will certainly be a blu-Christmas without HD to view.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by septic death

drop in price to match HD DVD players or its game over by years end. I am getting worried about blu ray, my collection of BD movies is growing but may slow down or stop till one comes out on top.


Anyone else getting worried about the outcome of all this crap? I thought Blu Ray had it wrapped up until last week and now cheap HD DVD players are coming.

And how will you feel when these cheap hd-dud players start breaking down 6 months after people buy them? How will that make Blu-ray look then?

[Mr.Neutral]

Originally Posted by radagast

And how will you feel when these cheap hd-dud players start breaking down 6 months after people buy them? How will that make Blu-ray look then?

I don't think they'll start breaking down after 6 months, but I don't think they'll make a huge impact.

What it would take for blu-ray to be in jeopardy is for HD DVD to surpass sales of blu-ray. That doesn't look like its ever going to happen. Anything less than this and we likely will have reached critical mass for studios to go neutral. I think before sales became tied, Universal and/or Paramount would have to go neutral since they'd be missing far too many sales.

Its easy to ignore a few hundred thousand sales, but once they start losing out on half a million sales per movie, that will push someone over the edge.

[Sushisake]

How about, when referring to HD-DVD players --- we use the word "cheap" - and when the new wave of blu-ray players hits the market, we call them "inexpensive". I like the sound of that much better. "Cheap" implies "shoddy", while "inexpensive" implies"good deal".

[micks_address]

i dont think cheap players are going to make that much of a difference.. especially if they arent from a well known brand like sony or panasonic or samsung, pioneer etc..

interesting this from daewoo this morning

http://www.reghardware.com/2007/08/3...daewoo_bluray/

[time]

Originally Posted by Sushisake

How about, when referring to HD-DVD players --- we use the word "cheap" - and when the new wave of blu-ray players hits the market, we call them "inexpensive". I like the sound of that much better. "Cheap" implies "shoddy", while "inexpensive" implies"good deal".

I find your comment interesting and typical. One side has a price drop and it's desperation while the other side does the same thing and it is a clever marketing strategy. Do you lay in bed at night thinking this stuff up. No wonder the HD-DVD side makes fun of the blu-ray people, they make stupid comments like that.

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by time

No wonder the HD-DVD side makes fun of the blu-ray people, they make stupid comments like that.

Oh, so people on the HD-DVD side don't say stupid things? You're a jackass.

[johnnyd1]

Originally Posted by septic death

drop in price to match HD DVD players or its game over by years end. I am getting worried about blu ray, my collection of BD movies is growing but may slow down or stop till one comes out on top.


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Why would you stop buying Blu Ray movies? You have the player, use and enjoy it. All will be fine in a few weeks !
Cheap players don't do anything for me ! I will pay more for a name brand and known reliability ! Which is why I don't buy anything Toshiba !

[jorg]

also look at funie devlopment plan on page 11 it says by end of year itsplaningn to realse cheap blu-ray player

[time]

Originally Posted by johnnyd1

Why would you stop buying Blu Ray movies? You have the player, use and enjoy it. All will be fine in a few weeks !
Cheap players don't do anything for me ! I will pay more for a name brand and known reliability ! Which is why I don't buy anything Toshiba !

You fail to understand that people that already have Blu-ray or Hd-DVD were not bothered by the high prices. The vast majority of the public say the 97% that don't have either the price is everything. If one format is 2 or 3 times more expensive the general public will go for the cheaper. That will led to the studios jumping ship from one to the other. If you do not think this is a possibility you are nuts. It's all about the price plain and simple.

[lokus]

Originally Posted by time

You fail to understand that people that already have Blu-ray or Hd-DVD were not bothered by the high prices. The vast majority of the public say the 97% that don't have either the price is everything. If one format is 2 or 3 times more expensive the general public will go for the cheaper. That will led to the studios jumping ship from one to the other. If you do not think this is a possibility you are nuts. It's all about the price plain and simple.

I completely agree with your statements. Many people don't know about HDM and if they are shown a reasonable price to enter this market they will.

[Mr.Neutral]

Originally Posted by lokus

I completely agree with your statements. Many people don't know about HDM and if they are shown a reasonable price to enter this market they will.

If this is true and they do, it can be good for blu-ray as well. As things stand today, someone getting in to HD DVD will see how great it is to be able to buy and watch a movie when YOU want to watch it. They will also see movies they can't watch because they are on blu-ray.

So, I believe someone getting a cheap HD DVD player may later want blu-ray as well. Even if this gives a slight boost to HD DVD, it is very unlikely it would push it close to (let alone) past blu-ray. Then when these people see the benefit of HDM, they get blu-ray and that either balances things out or gives blu-ray an even bigger boost.

I really question how many movies someone getting in at the bottom level may actually buy anyway.

[ReduxInflux]

Originally Posted by Mr.Neutral

If this is true and they do, it can be good for blu-ray as well. As things stand today, someone getting in to HD DVD will see how great it is to be able to buy and watch a movie when YOU want to watch it. They will also see movies they can't watch because they are on blu-ray.

So, I believe someone getting a cheap HD DVD player may later want blu-ray as well. Even if this gives a slight boost to HD DVD, it is very unlikely it would push it close to (let alone) past blu-ray. Then when these people see the benefit of HDM, they get blu-ray and that either balances things out or gives blu-ray an even bigger boost.

I really question how many movies someone getting in at the bottom level may actually buy anyway.

excellent point.

[lokus]

Originally Posted by Mr.Neutral

I really question how many movies someone getting in at the bottom level may actually buy anyway.

Good point. I have been thinking this for awhile. In my opinion, not many of your average consumers are going to repurchase much of their existing collection on HDM. I will buy all of my favorite movies again but you won't catch me re-buying my girlfriend's copy of Win A Date with Tad Hamelton.

[johnnyd1]

Originally Posted by time

You fail to understand If you do not think this is a possibility you are nuts. .

You are new here and already you have shown yourself to be a schmuck by your comments !
When does the FUD begin ?
You are a troll !

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by time

You fail to understand that people that already have Blu-ray or Hd-DVD were not bothered by the high prices. The vast majority of the public say the 97% that don't have either the price is everything. If one format is 2 or 3 times more expensive the general public will go for the cheaper. That will led to the studios jumping ship from one to the other. If you do not think this is a possibility you are nuts. It's all about the price plain and simple.

The BD players have been 2-3x from the beginning, and it hasn't led to an overwhelming advantage in stand-alones so far. It's 55:45 in North America.

The disc prices are about the same (+ for combos and Fox).

The public isn't looking to buy something cheap for the sake of buying something cheap. They have to be interested too. And why would fighting a format war and paying $20-$30 for the priviledge interest all these people that only care about price?

Gary

[DrinkMore]

I must say, when I purchased my PS3 - it was not because it was the cheapest BD players (maybe just a little), it was more for the fact that it was the most robust player.

Lots of updates, sleek looks, no problems, most bang for the buck! It had everything I wanted and more. If I were to do it again, it would be the PS3 again. Why would I limit myself with a stand alone?


Here is how I look at it..

HD-DVD is for the crowd that wants to get into HD movies, but really don't want to spend a lot.

Blu-Ray is for the crowd that wants to get into HD movies, and only wants the best and is willing to pay for it.

That is just my opinion.

[dialog_gvf]

Here's my opinion why there SHOULD be a well priced entry level BD player:

Not because it needs to compete in the market against some HD DVD questionable quality unit. But, because of all these posts.

There are too many people taking the price Kool-aid, and obvious need to feel more comfortable about the ultimate success of Blu-ray. And that would be done by making something compete in the fictitious mass market.

The people buying into HDM have to be those that are willing to spend a hefty premium on the software. Accept the occassional glitch. Update their firmware. And not have access to all the titles.

Those people will pay $300-$400 and above (some WELL above) for a player, if they are confident in the ultimate survival of the format.

Gary