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Old 11-05-2010, 08:05 AM   #1
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I made this post a year ago and figured why not bring it back this year. As soon as midnight hits I will watch the movie. I have a few fireworks save from July. Big thing for me this year is my Steel book for the movie. I will crack that open tonight as well. Hope you enjoy!


Might sound crazy but I like to celebrate November the 5th. I have for the last 4 years now. I am a fan of the movie. I end up watching it every year. Last year I was able to watch it 3 times. I hope to make it 4 times today. I have seen it once so far. Thought I would like to share some info with anyone
who is interested.

Guy Fawkes is famous for being involved in an attempt to blow up the Houses of Parliament on the 5th of November His goal, along with others, was to kill King James I, and the Protestant Aristocracy. Having a military background, and his experience in explosives is probably why he was chosen as the leader for the Gunpowder Plot.

In 1604 Guy Fawkes, and the plotters realized that they weren't going to get any outside help, as King James I attacked both extreme Puritans and Catholics. Therefore, they decided that they had to take matters into their own hands. At first they tried to dig a tunnel under the House of Lords, but that plan didn't work. They next rented a cellar beneath the building. By March 1905 they had 1800 pounds of gunpowder stored in the cellar. Their intentions were also to abduct Princess Elizabeth until they found out that Lord Monteagle had been pre-warned about the abduction. They still continued to plan the Gunpowder plot even though they knew that Lord Monteagle was now suspicious.

However, Lord Monteagle sent the warning letter he had received to the Secretary of State. As a result an order was sent to search the vaults beneath The House of Lords. The search was carried out in the early morning of November the 5th. Guy Fawkes was caught red handed as he held a torch in his hand ready to light the fuse to detonate the gunpowder.

King James I then ordered that Guy Fawkes be punished for his attempts at blowing up the House of Lords. Sir William Wade, Lieutenant of The Tower of London witnessed Guy Fawkes"s confession, and supervised the torture. Guy Fawkes was not willing to divulge information on his co-conspirators, and for a few days he said nothing. Only when he found out that the others had proclaimed themselves by appearing arms, did he then release the names of the other men involved. The torture revealed the names of those already known to the authorities, or people that were already dead. Guy Fawkes and a number of others were tried at Westminster Hall on the 31st of January. After being found guilty their punishment was to be hung, drawn, and quartered.
At this time the unsuccessful attempts of Guy Fawkes are still celebrated. Fireworks night, or bonfire night is still a British tradition. King James I introduced the celebration as a day for thanksgiving as to what he thought was a glorious day. On the night of the interception of the Gun Powder Plot the people of London celebrated by lighting fires and with various street festivities. The celebrations continue today on the 5th of November with fireworks displays, the lighting of bonfires, and making the "guy" to go on top of the bonfire.

Britain is not the only place that celebrates this tradition today. New Foundland, some areas of New Zealand, and it is also said it is celebrated in South Africa also.


Remember, remember, the Fifth of November, the Gunpowder Treason and Plot. I know of no reason why the Gunpowder Treason should ever be forgot... But what of the man? I know his name was Guy Fawkes and I know, in 1605, he attempted to blow up the Houses of Parliament. But who was he really? What was he like? We are told to remember the idea, not the man, because a man can fail. He can be caught, he can be killed and forgotten, but 400 years later, an idea can still change the world. I've witnessed first hand the power of ideas, I've seen people kill in the name of them, and die defending them... but you cannot kiss an idea, cannot touch it, or hold it... ideas do not bleed, they do not feel pain, they do not love... And it is not an idea that I miss, it is a man... A man that made me remember the Fifth of November. A man that I will never forget.

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Old 11-05-2010, 05:12 PM   #2
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Might sound crazy but I like to celebrate November the 5th. I have for the last 4 years now. I am a fan of the movie. I end up watching it every year. Last year I was able to watch it 3 times. I hope to make it 4 times today. I have seen it once so far. Thought I would like to share some info with anyone
who is interested. Mods you can lock the thead if you need to. Just hope it will stay open for the 5th. Thanks


Guy Fawkes is famous for being involved in an attempt to blow up the Houses of Parliament on the 5th of November His goal, along with others, was to kill King James I, and the Protestant Aristocracy. Having a military background, and his experience in explosives is probably why he was chosen as the leader for the Gunpowder Plot.

In 1604 Guy Fawkes, and the plotters realized that they weren't going to get any outside help, as King James I attacked both extreme Puritans and Catholics. Therefore, they decided that they had to take matters into their own hands. At first they tried to dig a tunnel under the House of Lords, but that plan didn't work. They next rented a cellar beneath the building. By March 1905 they had 1800 pounds of gunpowder stored in the cellar. Their intentions were also to abduct Princess Elizabeth until they found out that Lord Monteagle had been pre-warned about the abduction. They still continued to plan the Gunpowder plot even though they knew that Lord Monteagle was now suspicious.

However, Lord Monteagle sent the warning letter he had received to the Secretary of State. As a result an order was sent to search the vaults beneath The House of Lords. The search was carried out in the early morning of November the 5th. Guy Fawkes was caught red handed as he held a torch in his hand ready to light the fuse to detonate the gunpowder.

King James I then ordered that Guy Fawkes be punished for his attempts at blowing up the House of Lords. Sir William Wade, Lieutenant of The Tower of London witnessed Guy Fawkes"s confession, and supervised the torture. Guy Fawkes was not willing to divulge information on his co-conspirators, and for a few days he said nothing. Only when he found out that the others had proclaimed themselves by appearing arms, did he then release the names of the other men involved. The torture revealed the names of those already known to the authorities, or people that were already dead. Guy Fawkes and a number of others were tried at Westminster Hall on the 31st of January. After being found guilty their punishment was to be hung, drawn, and quartered.
At this time the unsuccessful attempts of Guy Fawkes are still celebrated. Fireworks night, or bonfire night is still a British tradition. King James I introduced the celebration as a day for thanksgiving as to what he thought was a glorious day. On the night of the interception of the Gun Powder Plot the people of London celebrated by lighting fires and with various street festivities. The celebrations continue today on the 5th of November with fireworks displays, the lighting of bonfires, and making the "guy" to go on top of the bonfire.

Britain is not the only place that celebrates this tradition today. New Foundland, some areas of New Zealand, and it is also said it is celebrated in South Africa also.


Remember, remember, the Fifth of November, the Gunpowder Treason and Plot. I know of no reason why the Gunpowder Treason should ever be forgot... But what of the man? I know his name was Guy Fawkes and I know, in 1605, he attempted to blow up the Houses of Parliament. But who was he really? What was he like? We are told to remember the idea, not the man, because a man can fail. He can be caught, he can be killed and forgotten, but 400 years later, an idea can still change the world. I've witnessed first hand the power of ideas, I've seen people kill in the name of them, and die defending them... but you cannot kiss an idea, cannot touch it, or hold it... ideas do not bleed, they do not feel pain, they do not love... And it is not an idea that I miss, it is a man... A man that made me remember the Fifth of November. A man that I will never forget.
Interesting read.

Thanks for the info, time to celebrate.
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Old 11-05-2010, 05:37 PM   #3
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You just made me look at my calendar and realize what today was. I so want to watch V now.
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I am totally watching V after work and think I will make it an annual thing, just like ID4 on July 4.
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Old 11-05-2010, 05:46 PM   #5
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Being from America, all I ever got of this bit of history is a few paragraphs in a textbook in World History. But my teacher at the time was very into the history of England so we got a little more in depth with it. It really is surprising a big budget "Braveheart" type movie hasn't been made. Or has there? I know a silent film was made in the 20's, anything else?

May have to pull V For Vendetta out tonight and watch it.
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Zero, thank you for the story. I read it just now. Utterly brilliant. Thank you.
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I celebrate Judgement day. Cause it's my birthday.

My coming caused Skynet to become self aware.
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It really does suprise how many in the US don't actually know the story of Guy Fawkes, because I thought it was well known everywhere, even if it isn't celebrated, and as I'm typing this right now I can hear fireworks going off.

I'll probably being going to a fireworks display tomorrow, because our garden is so small you it would be extremely dangerous to set off any.
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It really does suprise how many in the US don't actually know the story of Guy Fawkes, because I thought it was well known everywhere, even if it isn't celebrated, and as I'm typing this right now I can hear fireworks going off.

I'll probably being going to a fireworks display tomorrow, because our garden is so small you it would be extremely dangerous to set off any.

I wish I could be there right now. Sounds exhilerating!
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Old 11-05-2010, 08:11 PM   #10
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Interesting read.

I might have to watch V For Vendetta tonight. Such a great movie. IIRC I watched it on the 5th of November last year. Hopefully I can squeeze in the time to watch it this evening.

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Such a great movie. IIRC I watched it on the 5th of November last year. Hopefully I can squeeze in the time to watch it this evening.
Still can't believe Natalie didn't even garner any major award nods for this, it's one of her best performances to date.
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It really does suprise how many in the US don't actually know the story of Guy Fawkes, because I thought it was well known everywhere, even if it isn't celebrated, and as I'm typing this right now I can hear fireworks going off.
I'll probably being going to a fireworks display tomorrow, because our garden is so small you it would be extremely dangerous to set off any.
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Natalie is one of the few Hollywood beauties who can pull off the bald look and look sexy while doing it, I tip my hat to her for even being Method enough to actually shave her head.
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Happy I can share some info with everyone. I have watched the movie two times now. Really wanting to hit 4 times for the day. I shot some fireworks off last year. Nothing really big but still able to get some off. Next year I will try to save some big ones from July 4th.
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