Shutting down big downloaders - Blu-ray Forum

saxwork · 09-08-2007, 08:27 PM

Interesting article has been posted over at MSNBC about Comcast shutting down people who download too much internet content.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20633771/

Can you imagine if Bill Gates has his way what it will be like on a Friday night when every Joe Blow has no choice but to download their movies for the weekend. The ISPs will be shutting down your accounts. The amount of traffic will clog systems so much the weekend will be over by the time your download is completed.

This is why packaged HD media is the only winner for the forseeable future. I just cannot see with the exisitng technology currently in place how the general public on a mass scale can support downloadable services as the primary source for home entertainment.

Thoughts?

Blu-dock Saint · 09-08-2007, 08:29 PM

My thought is I'm glad I dropped comcast and went with charter, this is one of the dumbest idea's I've seen lately.....shame on you comcast. I mean we talked about how paramount turned their backs on us, this is kind of like that only worse in my opinion.

supersix4 · 09-09-2007, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu-dock Saint

My thought is I'm glad I dropped comcast and went with charter, this is one of the dumbest idea's I've seen lately.....shame on you comcast. I mean we talked about how paramount turned their backs on us, this is kind of like that only worse in my opinion.

comcast is a terrible service over charging + they are shit when trying to help you.... hope they lose buisness,and they should get sued for false advertisements UNLIMITED Internet bs

glenn22 · 09-08-2007, 08:33 PM

I think that's retarded... I'd be shut down on day 1.

Blu-dock Saint · 09-08-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by glenn22

I think that's retarded... I'd be shut down on day 1.

Same here, theres got to be something against this but probably not.

krispydude · 09-08-2007, 08:48 PM

this mostly stems for torrents and the such. it would be extremely hard im sure to get cut off for browsing the internet and viewing youtube and such.

BluFox · 09-08-2007, 08:52 PM

Well, the internet is FULL of LEGAL videos and music. Gaming is also a part of our life. Never heard of such a dumb idea!!

Neo65 · 09-08-2007, 09:25 PM

This can be solved by paying another $20 per month. I know about a year ago, Rogers (our cablemodem ISP in Toronto area), gave out a warning that people who download more than a certain amount will get their connection throttled to lower bitrates or disconnected.

I don't know if they carried out that threat, but I noticed that my nighttime and weekend times for transferring large files between home and work through VPN is faster today than a year ago.

If you pay for the premium service, you do get unlimited up/downloads, and I believe that's about $20/month more. Haven't checked recently.

The Guardian · 09-08-2007, 09:33 PM

Yes, Rogers was throttling people who exceeded their limits (typically 80-100 GB/Month depending on the plan!) down to the 64k up / 128k down plan until the month was over. I believe that is being replaced as of this or next month where they will not throttle, but instead will charge overage fees...

I have their second highest plan (800k/8000k) and it's never tested at anything other than max speed...

reiella · 09-09-2007, 01:18 AM

Pretty much all internet providers do this to some extent. And parts of their terms of service include the right for them to do so.

I'm pretty sure if I kept my 10Mbps stream going constant for a week, I'd lose my access.

But then again, you're looking at ~100000 mb/day.

[ Add / Edit ]
And I can say, with very strong certainity, that FiOS also includes provision for abuse of bandwidth.

jw · 09-09-2007, 04:02 AM

Is there a monthly quota on my newsgroup account and what happens if I exceed this limit?
The monthly limit on newsgroup downloads provided by Comcast is 2 gigabytes.

If you reach your download limit while you have a download in progress, we will allow you to finish your session, rather than interrupting your download. The surplus bytes downloaded are merely charged to the following period.

If you reach or go over the 2 gigabyte monthly limit you will be unable to download additional content until your usage is reset, which happens on the 25th of each month.

Heres what I found in reference that, I dont think it applies to regular cable internet accounts.

reiella · 09-09-2007, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jwbbud

Is there a monthly quota on my newsgroup account and what happens if I exceed this limit?
The monthly limit on newsgroup downloads provided by Comcast is 2 gigabytes.

If you reach your download limit while you have a download in progress, we will allow you to finish your session, rather than interrupting your download. The surplus bytes downloaded are merely charged to the following period.

If you reach or go over the 2 gigabyte monthly limit you will be unable to download additional content until your usage is reset, which happens on the 25th of each month.

Heres what I found in reference that, I dont think it applies to regular cable internet accounts.

Better to read your disclosure of terms

. It's usually around the spot where the provider explains that they can not guarantee a specific bandwidth.

evo_dadi · 09-09-2007, 04:14 AM

not sure how AT&T limits dsl but i have the elite package and there are times that my connection tends to slow down.hell even at night time when traffic is supposed to be lighter i get a slow connection.

reiella · 09-09-2007, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by evo_dadi

not sure how AT&T limits dsl but i have the elite package and there are times that my connection tends to slow down.hell even at night time when traffic is supposed to be lighter i get a slow connection.

You're sharing bandwidth is all. You always share bandwidth with someone, unless it's a direct and isolated connection between two points, just the nature of the net. With the evening comment, I suspect some folks who share you immediate routing queue up larger downloads or leave their fileshare stuff running overnight. But that's just a guess.

evo_dadi · 09-09-2007, 04:27 AM

ic,i was tempted on switching to comcast before when i went to my bro-in-law's house to check out his set-up but he didnt like it how he got a lot of dropped connections and higher pricing.

MrBogey · 09-09-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by evo_dadi

not sure how AT&T limits dsl but i have the elite package and there are times that my connection tends to slow down.hell even at night time when traffic is supposed to be lighter i get a slow connection.

AT&T applys no caps on DSL usage.

09-08-2007, 08:27 PM	#1
saxwork Member Member since:Jul 2007	Shutting down big downloaders Interesting article has been posted over at MSNBC about Comcast shutting down people who download too much internet content. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20633771/ Can you imagine if Bill Gates has his way what it will be like on a Friday night when every Joe Blow has no choice but to download their movies for the weekend. The ISPs will be shutting down your accounts. The amount of traffic will clog systems so much the weekend will be over by the time your download is completed. This is why packaged HD media is the only winner for the forseeable future. I just cannot see with the exisitng technology currently in place how the general public on a mass scale can support downloadable services as the primary source for home entertainment. Thoughts?

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09-08-2007, 08:29 PM	#2
Blu-dock Saint Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Michigan Blu-ray collection:47 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:67	My thought is I'm glad I dropped comcast and went with charter, this is one of the dumbest idea's I've seen lately.....shame on you comcast. I mean we talked about how paramount turned their backs on us, this is kind of like that only worse in my opinion.

09-08-2007, 08:33 PM	#4
glenn22 Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Vancouver, Canada	I think that's retarded... I'd be shut down on day 1.

09-08-2007, 08:48 PM	#6
krispydude Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Phoenix, AZ	this mostly stems for torrents and the such. it would be extremely hard im sure to get cut off for browsing the internet and viewing youtube and such.

09-08-2007, 08:52 PM	#7
BluFox Active Member Member since:Jan 2007	Well, the internet is FULL of LEGAL videos and music. Gaming is also a part of our life. Never heard of such a dumb idea!!

09-08-2007, 09:25 PM	#8
Neo65 Senior Member Member since:Sep 2007	This can be solved by paying another $20 per month. I know about a year ago, Rogers (our cablemodem ISP in Toronto area), gave out a warning that people who download more than a certain amount will get their connection throttled to lower bitrates or disconnected. I don't know if they carried out that threat, but I noticed that my nighttime and weekend times for transferring large files between home and work through VPN is faster today than a year ago. If you pay for the premium service, you do get unlimited up/downloads, and I believe that's about $20/month more. Haven't checked recently.

09-08-2007, 09:33 PM	#9
The Guardian Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Kitchener, ON Blu-ray collection:9 Trading Score:1	Yes, Rogers was throttling people who exceeded their limits (typically 80-100 GB/Month depending on the plan!) down to the 64k up / 128k down plan until the month was over. I believe that is being replaced as of this or next month where they will not throttle, but instead will charge overage fees... I have their second highest plan (800k/8000k) and it's never tested at anything other than max speed...

09-09-2007, 01:18 AM	#10
reiella Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2006 Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray collection:237 DVD collection:1	Pretty much all internet providers do this to some extent. And parts of their terms of service include the right for them to do so. I'm pretty sure if I kept my 10Mbps stream going constant for a week, I'd lose my access. But then again, you're looking at ~100000 mb/day. [ Add / Edit ] And I can say, with very strong certainity, that FiOS also includes provision for abuse of bandwidth.

09-09-2007, 04:02 AM	#11
jw Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2007 Location:USA Trading Score:519	Is there a monthly quota on my newsgroup account and what happens if I exceed this limit? The monthly limit on newsgroup downloads provided by Comcast is 2 gigabytes. If you reach your download limit while you have a download in progress, we will allow you to finish your session, rather than interrupting your download. The surplus bytes downloaded are merely charged to the following period. If you reach or go over the 2 gigabyte monthly limit you will be unable to download additional content until your usage is reset, which happens on the 25th of each month. Heres what I found in reference that, I dont think it applies to regular cable internet accounts.

09-09-2007, 04:14 AM	#13
evo_dadi Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:watsonville,cali Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray collection:142 Trading Score:50	not sure how AT&T limits dsl but i have the elite package and there are times that my connection tends to slow down.hell even at night time when traffic is supposed to be lighter i get a slow connection.

09-09-2007, 04:27 AM	#15
evo_dadi Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:watsonville,cali Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray collection:142 Trading Score:50	ic,i was tempted on switching to comcast before when i went to my bro-in-law's house to check out his set-up but he didnt like it how he got a lot of dropped connections and higher pricing.

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