Help me out ladies and gents... - Blu-ray Forum

T-Wrecks · 11-11-2007, 02:37 AM

I'll be finishing my basement over the next 3 - 5 months, and I need input on my home theatre set-up for the family. Seating distance is about 15 feet. My blu-ray is a PS3 60GB. Here are my 4 concerns:

1. 1080p/24 a must
2. Movement must be smooth
3. High contrast ratios
4. Min. 45" screen

Now let's assume 3 budgets and see what you recommend. I love the Pioneer plasmas, but wow are they pricey. Sony's XBRs seem size and energy efficient but I am worried about motion artifacts, judder, etc...
Go ahead and include sound systems if you like. Any input is appreciated.

Budget 1: 2-3K
Budget 2: 3-4K
Budget 3: 5-6K

edit: Budget 3...posted as a "5". Sorry for the confusion.

pedigree · 11-11-2007, 02:45 AM

look into the bravias... i was in the sony store a few days back and i was looking at their biggest model (can remeber which size) but it was like 4G and i was tempted to reach out and grab the girl in the tv's arm it looked so real

Gio · 11-11-2007, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Wrecks

I'll be finishing my basement over the next 3 - 5 months, and I need input on my home theatre set-up for the family. Seating distance is about 15 feet. My blu-ray is a PS3 60GB. Here are my 4 concerns:

1. 1080p/24 a must
2. Movement must be smooth
3. High contrast ratios
4. Min. 45" screen

Now let's assume 3 budgets and see what you recommend. I love the Pioneer plasmas, but wow are they pricey. Sony's XBRs seem size and energy efficient but I am worried about motion artifacts, judder, etc...
Go ahead and include sound systems if you like. Any input is appreciated.

Budget 1: 2-3K
Budget 2: 3-4K
Budget 5: 5-6K

i love my tv's
my loft upstairs has a 61" samsung DLP (11' away) = budget 1
my main floor tv is a 73" mitsubishi DLP (15' away) = budget 2
my basment is gonna be a projector (sony or mitsu) mounted from the ceiling on a 110" steward screen about (18' to 20' away) with 2 rows of theatre seats = budget 5

i like big screens at least 60'' of bigger and lcd or plasma is too much money, i do have 2 42'' plasmas one for the bedroom and one for the gym, granted they look killer, i'm still happy with the dlp's

ive got one for your budget #74, i'll get if i win the lottery price has dropped 5k already

http://www.abtelectronics.com/product/25689.html

T-Wrecks · 11-11-2007, 03:00 AM

lol, no 1080p/24 for a 4000:1 103" Panny? No thankee...

Blu-ray Fanatic · 11-11-2007, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gio

i love my tv's
my loft upstairs has a 61" samsung DLP (11' away) = budget 1
my main floor tv is a 73" mitsubishi DLP (15' away) = budget 2
my basment is gonna be a projector (sony or mitsu) mounted from the ceiling on a 110" steward screen about (18' to 20' away) with 2 rows of theatre seats = budget 5

i like big screens at least 60'' of bigger and lcd or plasma is too much money, i do have 2 42'' plasmas one for the bedroom and one for the gym, granted they look killer, i'm still happy with the dlp's

ive got one for your budget #74, i'll get if i win the lottery price has dropped 5k already

http://www.abtelectronics.com/product/25689.html

Well Well Well, you must make a very good income to have that many HDTVs. So, what's your occupation? Maybe I'll try that one

Gio · 11-20-2007, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

Well Well Well, you must make a very good income to have that many HDTVs. So, what's your occupation? Maybe I'll try that one

im a teamster truck driver

and i also do pre-wire for new home construction (my own little side business)

fortunately my wife also has a great income

DragonSarc · 11-20-2007, 10:46 AM

GIo go with samsung ln-t5271 or XBR 4 or 5 cant go wrong with those....

gand41f · 11-20-2007, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Wrecks

I'll be finishing my basement over the next 3 - 5 months, and I need input on my home theatre set-up for the family. Seating distance is about 15 feet. My blu-ray is a PS3 60GB. Here are my 4 concerns:

1. 1080p/24 a must
2. Movement must be smooth
3. High contrast ratios
4. Min. 45" screen

Now let's assume 3 budgets and see what you recommend. I love the Pioneer plasmas, but wow are they pricey. Sony's XBRs seem size and energy efficient but I am worried about motion artifacts, judder, etc...
Go ahead and include sound systems if you like. Any input is appreciated.

Budget 1: 2-3K
Budget 2: 3-4K
Budget 3: 5-6K

edit: Budget 3...posted as a "5". Sorry for the confusion.

At 15 feet I think you need minimum 60" (preferably 70"), so LCDs are out. You said yourself, Pioneer plasmas will fit your bill nicely with 72Hz support but 60" is about 8k.

I don't know much about rear projectors, they are big and cheap, do any of them refresh at a multiple of 24? I think 96Hz front projectors can be had at your price range but again I'm not a projector type guy so I don't know much.

enjoy
gandalf

moviefan · 11-20-2007, 02:34 PM

The problem is to "future proof" whatever you buy so you are not replacing anything in a couple of years. This is difficult with a small budget, so "buy cheap" on some items you can replace later, and buy the good stuff you don't want to replace any time soom.
Consider a closer viewing distance if you can. 8-10 feet works well with a 52" TV, but 1080P is a waste unless you go to a 60" or better. There are some great buys on Sony SXRD and JVC HD-ILA rear projector sets, both 720 anfd1080. These use the Lcos technology which produces a great picture.
BEST BUY runs regular promotions for Yamaha/Klipsch receiver/speaker packages, with a subwoofer as a low cost extra. Just be sure to get HDMI 1,3 for "future proofing".
Dont forget to budget for cables, preferably all HDMI for interconnects. Try COBALTCABLE.COM for great cables at fair prices with no tax and free shipping.
Good Luck!

clyon · 11-20-2007, 07:46 PM

Front Projector

Sony VPL-VW60 $5k, you can get in online for $3.5K. A screen (90") is about $600

'Full HD 1080p, 35,000:1 contrast ratio (with Advanced Iris), BRAVIA Engine™, SXRD chip, 12-bit Panel Drive Full Digital Chassis, ARC-F Lens, Real Color Processing, Anamorphic Zoom mode, 200W Ultra High Pressure Lamp, 1080/24p input capable'

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...52921665192796

You need something at lease 70" for that viewing distance.

cleric · 11-21-2007, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Wrecks

I'll be finishing my basement over the next 3 - 5 months, and I need input on my home theatre set-up for the family. Seating distance is about 15 feet. My blu-ray is a PS3 60GB. Here are my 4 concerns:

1. 1080p/24 a must
2. Movement must be smooth
3. High contrast ratios
4. Min. 45" screen

Now let's assume 3 budgets and see what you recommend. I love the Pioneer plasmas, but wow are they pricey. Sony's XBRs seem size and energy efficient but I am worried about motion artifacts, judder, etc...
Go ahead and include sound systems if you like. Any input is appreciated.

Budget 1: 2-3K
Budget 2: 3-4K
Budget 3: 5-6K

edit: Budget 3...posted as a "5". Sorry for the confusion.

If 24p is a must the only option is pioneer or pioneer elite if you want a panel.

richteer · 11-21-2007, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Wrecks

Now let's assume 3 budgets and see what you recommend. I love the Pioneer plasmas, but wow are they pricey. Sony's XBRs seem size and energy efficient but I am worried about motion artifacts, judder, etc...
Go ahead and include sound systems if you like. Any input is appreciated.

Budget 1: 2-3K
Budget 2: 3-4K
Budget 3: 5-6K

edit: Budget 3...posted as a "5". Sorry for the confusion.

The top of the line Pioneer Elite Kuro (60", 1080p) is just about in your price range (street price, not list!), so that'd be my first choice. As others have suggested, a projector might be you best way. (Alas, in my house, I think a projector will be out of the question, so panel TV it'll be...)

WriteSimply · 11-22-2007, 12:21 AM

Even at budget 3, that's up to 6K. So you can't get a flat panel display for 60" at that price. Consider a front projector - Sony, Panasonic and JVC make great stuff.

Since it is the basement anyway, front projector is a good option. Plus it can feel like a real cinema if you go with the wall to wall screen.

fuad

T-Wrecks · 11-22-2007, 02:47 AM

Any input on the Sharp Aquos line? The 120 Hz looks inviting but it looks like 24p is out which has me worried about judder, MA, etc...Wall-to-wall looks to be about 15 ft. so it probably will end up being about 12' distance. A 60" Kuro sounds nice, but now I am intrigued with front projectors...off to research them I go!

PS...Now how to convince the wife I need a Pioneer elite 60"...

kinweng7 · 11-22-2007, 04:31 AM

hello

Brain Sturgeon · 11-22-2007, 05:04 AM

You can't go wrong with a Pioneer Kuro-- just a spectacular picture, although pricey as others have stated.

If you are looking at front projectors, in addition to the Sony Pearl, Black Pearl, or Ruby, you should also look at the JVC DLA-RS1 or HD1 (same unit, different colors). You could probably find one for a little over 4k (check Audiogon.com). Not as sexy looking as the Sony's, but great bang for the buck. The picture has been described as a tad oversaturated, but it is sharper than the Sony's and light output is very good. It will do 1080p/96 (automatically quadruples the framerate of 1080p/24).

11-11-2007, 02:37 AM	#1
T-Wrecks Active Member Member since:Jul 2007	Help me out ladies and gents... I'll be finishing my basement over the next 3 - 5 months, and I need input on my home theatre set-up for the family. Seating distance is about 15 feet. My blu-ray is a PS3 60GB. Here are my 4 concerns: 1. 1080p/24 a must 2. Movement must be smooth 3. High contrast ratios 4. Min. 45" screen Now let's assume 3 budgets and see what you recommend. I love the Pioneer plasmas, but wow are they pricey. Sony's XBRs seem size and energy efficient but I am worried about motion artifacts, judder, etc... Go ahead and include sound systems if you like. Any input is appreciated. Budget 1: 2-3K Budget 2: 3-4K Budget 3: 5-6K edit: Budget 3...posted as a "5". Sorry for the confusion. Last edited by T-Wrecks; 11-11-2007 at 02:58 AM. Reason: Number mistype

11-22-2007, 02:47 AM	#14
T-Wrecks Active Member Member since:Jul 2007	Any input on the Sharp Aquos line? The 120 Hz looks inviting but it looks like 24p is out which has me worried about judder, MA, etc...Wall-to-wall looks to be about 15 ft. so it probably will end up being about 12' distance. A 60" Kuro sounds nice, but now I am intrigued with front projectors...off to research them I go! PS...Now how to convince the wife I need a Pioneer elite 60"... Last edited by T-Wrecks; 11-22-2007 at 02:52 AM.

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11-11-2007, 02:45 AM	#2
pedigree Power Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Montreal, Canada	look into the bravias... i was in the sony store a few days back and i was looking at their biggest model (can remeber which size) but it was like 4G and i was tempted to reach out and grab the girl in the tv's arm it looked so real

11-11-2007, 03:00 AM	#4
T-Wrecks Active Member Member since:Jul 2007	lol, no 1080p/24 for a 4000:1 103" Panny? No thankee...

11-20-2007, 10:46 AM	#7
DragonSarc Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Sep 2007 Location:San Leandro, CA Home Theater Gallery:28 Blu-ray reviews:1	GIo go with samsung ln-t5271 or XBR 4 or 5 cant go wrong with those....

11-20-2007, 02:34 PM	#9
moviefan Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Orchard Park, NY	The problem is to "future proof" whatever you buy so you are not replacing anything in a couple of years. This is difficult with a small budget, so "buy cheap" on some items you can replace later, and buy the good stuff you don't want to replace any time soom. Consider a closer viewing distance if you can. 8-10 feet works well with a 52" TV, but 1080P is a waste unless you go to a 60" or better. There are some great buys on Sony SXRD and JVC HD-ILA rear projector sets, both 720 anfd1080. These use the Lcos technology which produces a great picture. BEST BUY runs regular promotions for Yamaha/Klipsch receiver/speaker packages, with a subwoofer as a low cost extra. Just be sure to get HDMI 1,3 for "future proofing". Dont forget to budget for cables, preferably all HDMI for interconnects. Try COBALTCABLE.COM for great cables at fair prices with no tax and free shipping. Good Luck!

11-20-2007, 07:46 PM	#10
clyon Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Just left of the Alpha Quadrant 4K collection:57 Blu-ray collection:824 Blu-ray reviews:8	Front Projector Sony VPL-VW60 $5k, you can get in online for $3.5K. A screen (90") is about $600 'Full HD 1080p, 35,000:1 contrast ratio (with Advanced Iris), BRAVIA Engine™, SXRD chip, 12-bit Panel Drive Full Digital Chassis, ARC-F Lens, Real Color Processing, Anamorphic Zoom mode, 200W Ultra High Pressure Lamp, 1080/24p input capable' http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...52921665192796 You need something at lease 70" for that viewing distance.

11-22-2007, 12:21 AM	#13
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	Even at budget 3, that's up to 6K. So you can't get a flat panel display for 60" at that price. Consider a front projector - Sony, Panasonic and JVC make great stuff. Since it is the basement anyway, front projector is a good option. Plus it can feel like a real cinema if you go with the wall to wall screen. fuad

11-22-2007, 04:31 AM	#15
kinweng7 New Member Member since:Nov 2007	hello

11-22-2007, 05:04 AM	#16
Brain Sturgeon Expert Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Sep 2007 Home Theater Gallery:39	You can't go wrong with a Pioneer Kuro-- just a spectacular picture, although pricey as others have stated. If you are looking at front projectors, in addition to the Sony Pearl, Black Pearl, or Ruby, you should also look at the JVC DLA-RS1 or HD1 (same unit, different colors). You could probably find one for a little over 4k (check Audiogon.com). Not as sexy looking as the Sony's, but great bang for the buck. The picture has been described as a tad oversaturated, but it is sharper than the Sony's and light output is very good. It will do 1080p/96 (automatically quadruples the framerate of 1080p/24).

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