Immortal Beloved (20th anniversary Edition)

[filmmusic]

Hello.
I was wondering if anyone has this Bluray.
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Immor...lu-ray/112689/

Does it have English subtitles?
And does it have the same extras with the US release? (commentary, Beloved Beethoven, Behind the Scenes)

I just wanted to buy it because I like the cover better that features the original film poster than the US photoshopped one.




Also, according to specs here, it's in MPEG-4 AVC 34.99 Mbps
while the US release is MPEG-2 23.39 Mbps. (http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...ess=#vergleich)

Does that mean that it's better?

The audio also is DTS-HD MA in comparison to Dolby TrueHD. But I believe that would be essentially the same.

[lateralspin]

I would strongly advise against buying this as it seems to be inferior.

The info on this website appears to be incorrect.

Specs of the Australian release should be:
Codec MPEG-4 AVC
English Dolby TrueHD 5.1
BD-25GB Disc
Region B
Subtitles English HoH
No extras. Barebones release.

Better codec does not necessarily mean that the PQ would be better (unless there was a new remaster). These catalogue movies were probably derived from the same DVD master, so there would not be much improvement.

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by lateralspin

I would strongly advise against buying this as it seems to be inferior.

The info on this website appears to be incorrect.

Specs of the Australian release should be:
Codec MPEG-4 AVC
English Dolby TrueHD 5.1
BD-25GB Disc
Region B
Subtitles English HoH
No extras. Barebones release.

Better codec does not necessarily mean that the PQ would be better (unless there was a new remaster). These catalogue movies were probably derived from the same DVD master, so there would not be much improvement.

The information provided in the listing is based on my BDInfo scan of what is actually on the disc, and it is most definitely accurate.

As I recall, the back cover of this release contains some errors in describing the specifications. I don't have that or the disc to hand right this second, but I will update shortly.

[filmmusic]

Thank you very much for your replies.
Ok, McCrutchy I'll be looking forward to it, thanks.

Well, in reply to laterspin, I thought when you have a better codec, you have a better encode, and maybe the grain is depicted better etc..
By the way, do you know for a fact that it doesn't have extras or are you based on info from Australian websites?

[lateralspin]

Originally Posted by filmmusic

Thank you very much for your replies.
Ok, McCrutchy I'll be looking forward to it, thanks.

Well, in reply to laterspin, I thought when you have a better codec, you have a better encode, and maybe the grain is depicted better etc..
By the way, do you know for a fact that it doesn't have extras or are you based on info from Australian websites?

So I checked the printed info on the back cover of the blu ray, and I checked with another website for specs and I am making a note of it. The back cover does not include extras. The text Dolby TrueHD 5.1 is printed in very large font on the back cover. So it is an error?

[filmmusic]

Originally Posted by lateralspin

So I checked the printed info on the back cover of the blu ray, and I checked with another website for specs and I am making a note of it. The back cover does not include extras. The text Dolby TrueHD 5.1 is printed in very large font on the back cover. So it is an error?

I was searching for the back cover.
Did you see it on the net, can you post a link please?

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by lateralspin

So I checked the printed info on the back cover of the blu ray, and I checked with another website for specs and I am making a note of it. The back cover does not include extras. The text Dolby TrueHD 5.1 is printed in very large font on the back cover. So it is an error?

Yes, the back cover states TrueHD in error, and mentions English HoH subs, which are not present on the disc.

Here is the BDInfo scan.

There are no extras, just a static menu screen. There is no Sony logo attached to the film, instead the film is billed as an Icon production, presented by Exclusive Media, however, I don't have the Sony to compare.

I will be watching the disc soon, and can report back with my impressions.

                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00002.MPLS                                                      AVC     2:00:34 37,104,807,936  37,610,542,172  41.03   34.99   DTS-HD Master 5.1 4025Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     IMMORTAL BELOVED
Disc Size:      37,610,542,172 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00002.MPLS
Length:                 2:00:34.852 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   37,104,807,936 bytes
Total Bitrate:          41.03 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        34995 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         4025 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 4025 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00004.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:00:34.852     37,104,807,936  41,029          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:05:53.478     33,444 kbps     40,487 kbps     00:00:07.424    38,058 kbps     00:03:42.472    37,917 kbps     00:04:03.034    174,343 bytes   404,594 bytes   00:00:21.896    
2               0:05:53.478     0:08:50.196     35,420 kbps     39,458 kbps     00:13:47.284    37,982 kbps     00:09:07.546    37,882 kbps     00:09:07.547    184,663 bytes   349,687 bytes   00:08:55.326    
3               0:14:43.674     0:21:13.480     34,856 kbps     39,268 kbps     00:27:12.964    38,027 kbps     00:26:14.406    37,916 kbps     00:26:09.317    181,721 bytes   396,657 bytes   00:26:07.482    
4               0:35:57.155     0:04:50.331     37,645 kbps     39,270 kbps     00:36:10.751    38,132 kbps     00:36:09.709    37,942 kbps     00:36:04.829    196,265 bytes   408,193 bytes   00:36:14.714    
5               0:40:47.486     0:18:33.654     36,086 kbps     39,485 kbps     00:48:49.635    38,072 kbps     00:49:55.367    37,913 kbps     00:53:47.933    188,136 bytes   407,753 bytes   00:48:50.636    
6               0:59:21.140     0:11:38.531     35,422 kbps     39,033 kbps     01:01:38.945    38,009 kbps     01:01:38.861    37,902 kbps     01:01:38.861    184,674 bytes   396,536 bytes   01:07:51.317    
7               1:10:59.672     0:15:03.527     35,575 kbps     39,220 kbps     01:13:30.823    38,066 kbps     01:13:26.819    37,918 kbps     01:13:21.814    185,473 bytes   380,395 bytes   01:13:31.824    
8               1:26:03.199     0:22:16.793     34,899 kbps     39,610 kbps     01:38:51.091    38,154 kbps     01:38:47.087    37,960 kbps     01:38:42.082    181,945 bytes   399,420 bytes   01:33:17.925    
9               1:48:19.993     0:08:41.312     34,503 kbps     39,714 kbps     01:56:37.865    38,162 kbps     01:56:33.861    37,853 kbps     01:51:27.639    179,885 bytes   452,219 bytes   01:56:31.901    
10              1:57:01.305     0:03:33.546     25,993 kbps     31,622 kbps     02:00:31.098    26,985 kbps     02:00:27.094    26,649 kbps     02:00:22.089    135,543 bytes   320,379 bytes   01:59:53.436    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00004.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     7234.686                34,996                  31,647,872,981  172,100,155     
00004.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           7234.686                4,025                   3,640,081,088   20,911,640

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by filmmusic

Hello.
I was wondering if anyone has this Bluray.
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Immor...lu-ray/112689/

Does it have English subtitles?
And does it have the same extras with the US release? (commentary, Beloved Beethoven, Behind the Scenes)

I just wanted to buy it because I like the cover better that features the original film poster than the US photoshopped one.




Also, according to specs here, it's in MPEG-4 AVC 34.99 Mbps
while the US release is MPEG-2 23.39 Mbps. (http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...ess=#vergleich)

Does that mean that it's better?

The audio also is DTS-HD MA in comparison to Dolby TrueHD. But I believe that would be essentially the same.

correct.

while it's impossible to recreate it in the home theater setup, the 8-channel Sony Dynamic Digital Sound (SDDS mix) (in the cinema) of this was just utterly beautiful - five front speaker sound just gave this impressive wall of sound and gave the music tremendous power - sonically, it was both the music and the sound design that was memorable.