Can LCDs be laid on their side? - Blu-ray Forum

lokus · 12-04-2007, 01:04 AM

I recently purchased a Sony Bravia KDL52W3000. When transporting it from Circuit City to the apartment I had to lay it down on its side in the box. It would not fix by sitting it upright in my vehicle. My question is: Does it damage an LCD by laying it down horizontally? I asked this question in AVS and only got 1 response so I am looking for some opinions/facts. Thanks!

Kirsty_Mc · 12-04-2007, 01:08 AM

If it's in transit in it's original packaging I can't see any problem. After all before you bought it... who knows how it was treated on the way to the store by the delivery people.

Just don't run it on it's side... LCDs usually don't like that as it defeats the cooling.

gand41f · 12-04-2007, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lokus

I recently purchased a Sony Bravia KDL52W3000. When transporting it from Circuit City to the apartment I had to lay it down on its side in the box. It would not fix by sitting it upright in my vehicle. My question is: Does it damage an LCD by laying it down horizontally? I asked this question in AVS and only got 1 response so I am looking for some opinions/facts. Thanks!

I believe it is generally considered bad idea to lay flat panel TVs on the side, as the weight of the display panel itself is held by the frame only along the edges. Plasmas are heavier than LCDs so it's supposed to be even more dangerous. There is a reason why the original shipment boxes are marked to be kept in one orientation only.

I'm assuming you already transported your LCD this way and it's working fine without any ill effects, in that case I'd breath a sigh of relief and try not to do it again. (I hope you didn't hit any potholes on your way back!

)

enjoy
gandalf

lokus · 12-04-2007, 10:58 AM

Well....Actually it isn't working great and a new set is being sent to me Friday. I am noticing blurred motion, although subtle. My fiance thinks I am crazy but when watching SD/HD broadcast tv or even SD DVD, I notice blurry movements in a what seems like a green tinted shadow. It's hard to explain and I probably sound crazy but its pissing me off. It may also be the fact that the LCD brings out the flaws of DVD and cable. Since I am becoming more used to Blu-ray, I am expecting a lot more.

Once_Forsaken · 12-04-2007, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lokus

Well....Actually it isn't working great and a new set is being sent to me Friday. I am noticing blurred motion, although subtle. My fiance thinks I am crazy but when watching SD/HD broadcast tv or even SD DVD, I notice blurry movements in a what seems like a green tinted shadow. It's hard to explain and I probably sound crazy but its pissing me off. It may also be the fact that the LCD brings out the flaws of DVD and cable. Since I am becoming more used to Blu-ray, I am expecting a lot more.

That is typical of LCD screens... look up pixel response or LCD ghosting. Basically, the quartz in the panel takes time to go from color to color which is why you get blurred motion or ghosting.

It is one of the 3 main drawbacks to LCDs compared to plasmas (the other ones are viewing angle and black level/contrast ratio).

gvortex7 · 12-04-2007, 02:56 PM

Transporting it in it's original box while laying on its side is fine. That's exactly how I took home my parents 42" Philips LCD about 4 months ago from Best Buy. I have a 06' Hyundai Tiburon that has a huge trunk, so all I had to do was lay the box on its side and fold down the reat seats and it fit in perfectly.

Trust me doing that is not going to cause any damage to your TV.

CptGreedle · 12-04-2007, 02:58 PM

Be sure you calibrate it too. You can remove a green cast in shadows if the TV is calibrated professionally.

Sonny · 12-04-2007, 03:02 PM

All my HDTV's have been every which way, at one time or another & there all just fine

Don't worry just enjoy

Teazle · 12-04-2007, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Once_Forsaken

That is typical of LCD screens... look up pixel response or LCD ghosting. Basically, the quartz in the panel takes time to go from color to color which is why you get blurred motion or ghosting.

It is one of the 3 main drawbacks to LCDs compared to plasmas (the other ones are viewing angle and black level/contrast ratio).

The great irony of LCD. At 1080p you get great detail ... in a static image. Detail is reduced as soon as things start to move, and when the camera pans, you can wind up with less perceptible detail than a lower-res set which handles motion well (e.g. 720p plasma or 1080i CRT).

jsteinhauer · 12-04-2007, 07:55 PM

As long as you had it face down, it should be fine. I transported mine that way, too, per the instructions of the BB salespeople. I have had no trouble.

gand41f · 12-04-2007, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Once_Forsaken

That is typical of LCD screens... look up pixel response or LCD ghosting. Basically, the quartz in the panel takes time to go from color to color which is why you get blurred motion or ghosting.

It is one of the 3 main drawbacks to LCDs compared to plasmas (the other ones are viewing angle and black level/contrast ratio).

I don't disagre with what you said above regarding general LCD/plasma comparisons, but it's not relevant to the question being asked. The person is complaining about SD content and TV. Blu-rays look fine on his setup, so it has nothing to do with the capability of the panel itself.

lokus, try playing with the picture settings. Turning off noise reduction might help.

enjoy
gandalf

lokus · 12-04-2007, 11:42 PM

I have all of the "extra" features turned off and pretty decent picture settings. I got most of my settings from the XBR4/5 thread from AVS. Granted, SD DVD will be getting phased out from my point of view but since I have such a large collection, it sucks to have to watch an SD DVD with blurred motion. Very annoying to my eyes

So this problem won't exist with plasmas? What is the downside of going to a plasma?

dpomp · 12-04-2007, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lokus

I am noticing blurred motion, although subtle. My fiance thinks I am crazy but when watching SD/HD broadcast tv or even SD DVD, ..... It may also be the fact that the LCD brings out the flaws of DVD and cable. Since I am becoming more used to Blu-ray, I am expecting a lot more.

i notice all the flaws too. i only watch my HD channels on my cable. its seems like the SD channels are too blurry and so quiet too.

12-04-2007, 01:04 AM	#1
lokus Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Marlton, NJ Blu-ray collection:72	Can LCDs be laid on their side? I recently purchased a Sony Bravia KDL52W3000. When transporting it from Circuit City to the apartment I had to lay it down on its side in the box. It would not fix by sitting it upright in my vehicle. My question is: Does it damage an LCD by laying it down horizontally? I asked this question in AVS and only got 1 response so I am looking for some opinions/facts. Thanks!

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12-04-2007, 01:08 AM	#2
Kirsty_Mc Power Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:UK Blu-ray collection:536 Blu-ray reviews: 21	If it's in transit in it's original packaging I can't see any problem. After all before you bought it... who knows how it was treated on the way to the store by the delivery people. Just don't run it on it's side... LCDs usually don't like that as it defeats the cooling.

12-04-2007, 10:58 AM	#4
lokus Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Marlton, NJ Blu-ray collection:72	Well....Actually it isn't working great and a new set is being sent to me Friday. I am noticing blurred motion, although subtle. My fiance thinks I am crazy but when watching SD/HD broadcast tv or even SD DVD, I notice blurry movements in a what seems like a green tinted shadow. It's hard to explain and I probably sound crazy but its pissing me off. It may also be the fact that the LCD brings out the flaws of DVD and cable. Since I am becoming more used to Blu-ray, I am expecting a lot more.

12-04-2007, 02:56 PM	#6
gvortex7 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Fort Lauderdale, FL Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:105	Transporting it in it's original box while laying on its side is fine. That's exactly how I took home my parents 42" Philips LCD about 4 months ago from Best Buy. I have a 06' Hyundai Tiburon that has a huge trunk, so all I had to do was lay the box on its side and fold down the reat seats and it fit in perfectly. Trust me doing that is not going to cause any damage to your TV.

12-04-2007, 02:58 PM	#7
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	Be sure you calibrate it too. You can remove a green cast in shadows if the TV is calibrated professionally.

12-04-2007, 03:02 PM	#8
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	All my HDTV's have been every which way, at one time or another & there all just fine Don't worry just enjoy

12-04-2007, 07:55 PM	#10
jsteinhauer Gaming Moderator Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray reviews:120 Trading Score:66	As long as you had it face down, it should be fine. I transported mine that way, too, per the instructions of the BB salespeople. I have had no trouble.

12-04-2007, 11:42 PM	#12
lokus Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Marlton, NJ Blu-ray collection:72	I have all of the "extra" features turned off and pretty decent picture settings. I got most of my settings from the XBR4/5 thread from AVS. Granted, SD DVD will be getting phased out from my point of view but since I have such a large collection, it sucks to have to watch an SD DVD with blurred motion. Very annoying to my eyes So this problem won't exist with plasmas? What is the downside of going to a plasma?

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