Kuro owners & Oled 4Ks - Blu-ray Forum

wafi · 12-21-2015, 06:57 PM

Has any Kuro owner made the move to Oled? I'm flirting with the idea and was wondering if any Kuro owner has had any experience with the LG 55 4K Oled (flat panel). I believe the model is LG 55EF9500.

Robert Zohn · 12-22-2015, 01:29 AM

That is exactly what PDP folks migrate to. Once you are spoiled by a premium PDP you can't get a better upgrade than the EF9500.

Motion resolution is better on PDP, but contrast and the overall pq, design and 4K HDR, WCG, 10-bit panel make this a very nice upgrade.

-Robert

Steelmaker · 01-08-2016, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

That is exactly what PDP folks migrate to. Once you are spoiled by a premium PDP you can't get a better upgrade than the EF9500.

Motion resolution is better on PDP, but contrast and the overall pq, design and 4K HDR, WCG, 10-bit panel make this a very nice upgrade.

-Robert

You have about 5k I can borrow??

Robert Zohn · 01-10-2016, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

That is exactly what PDP folks migrate to. Once you are spoiled by a premium PDP you can't get a better upgrade than the EF9500.

Motion resolution is better on PDP, but contrast and the overall pq, design and 4K HDR, WCG, 10-bit panel make this a very nice upgrade.

-Robert

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Originally Posted by Steelmaker

You have about 5k I can borrow??

Actually yes, we offer 1 year interest free financing. So we can arrange to lend you $5k for one year with no interest or fees of any kind.

When you consider Samsung's curved 65" JS9500 for $4,200, which is an excellent TV, but IMO and that of every professional TV reviewer, does not deliver the same overall picture quality, LG's 4K OLED begins to make sense and you can appreciate the value and performance that only OLED can deliver.

-Robert

Rblu-Dblu · 01-10-2016, 02:22 PM

I'll have to bookmark this thread for future use. My kuro has developed a green line that runs half way up the screen. From my best searching it appears to be an issue that can't be fixed. I'm still using it because I've been unable to find another panel that matches everything I love about it. Motion blur is a huge issue for me as I seem to be more sensitive towards it than anything else. I'll have to check out the LG OLED and see how it compares.

HDTV1080P · 01-10-2016, 05:33 PM

If your home theater room or other room can handle a 3 chip DLP projector you might want to consider that. With the launch of 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs this year, some consumers in 2016, 2017, or 2018 are going to get a high end 4K projector or 4K OLED flat panel. I also like the natural organic look of DLP projectors and plasma flat panels. No one makes a 4K plasma, so OLED is the new king of flat panels.

Steelmaker · 01-12-2016, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Actually yes, we offer 1 year interest free financing. So we can arrange to lend you $5k for one year with no interest or fees of any kind.

When you consider Samsung's curved 65" JS9500 for $4,200, which is an excellent TV, but IMO and that of every professional TV reviewer, does not deliver the same overall picture quality, LG's 4K OLED begins to make sense and you can appreciate the value and performance that only OLED can deliver.

-Robert

Thanks Robert! However I'm still enjoying my VT60 that I bought from you in 2013 that I JUST paid off a few months ago. I see no need to upgrade until that set gives up the ghost. By then I'm sure the OLED technology will be better and even more affordable.

schan1269 · 12-22-2015, 01:43 AM

Once any of my plasma die...I'm going OLED.

HDTV1080P · 12-22-2015, 02:35 PM

I plan on also going either with a high-end 4K projector or 4K OLED flat panel sometime in the future. Once the 4K Blu-ray format is released in 2016 and when I see around 100 native 4K Blu-ray movies to choose from, then I will be very interested in upgrading. I hope that OLED motion resolution will improve over the years.

Pondosinatra · 12-22-2015, 02:50 PM

Nope.

Have my Kuro in storage as a backup.

But I migrated to a Panny ZT.

Hoping I can get 5 years out of it at which point I'll examine the current state of technology at that point.

My guess is it'll still be dominated by LED based garbage.

COLD_COBRA_ · 12-22-2015, 03:19 PM

I don't have a Kuro but I have a VT60. I'll get one when they have a 75" 4k Oled for $4k or so. Hopefully in 2 years there will be more options.

Robert Zohn · 12-22-2015, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

I plan on also going either with a high-end 4K projector or 4K OLED flat panel sometime in the future. Once the 4K Blu-ray format is released in 2016 and when I see around 100 native 4K Blu-ray movies to choose from, then I will be very interested in upgrading. I hope that OLED motion resolution will improve over the years.

Actually the latest firmware update improved motion resolution and video processing. Also shutting off "True Motion" in the advanced picture menu greatly improves motion resolution.

OLED has very fast pixel switching so considering the new firmware upgrade and getting the TV set-up properly will give you very good motion resolution performance.

-Robert

HDTV1080P · 12-23-2015, 02:03 AM

It is nice to have an option to turn off frame interpolation so that a natural repeating frame rate method can be used instead. It's good to see LG making improvements with OLED, they are currently the highest quality flat panel manufactory on the market. That could change when more manufactories start releasing OLED models.

Robert Zohn · 12-23-2015, 10:50 PM

Thanks HDTV 1080P.

It's not accuracy frame interpolation, I do not know enough about the process LG employed, but it works and you can control it to produce the look you like and reduce motion blur for any content.

I'm also anxious to see other manufacturers bring OLED panel technology to the market, but with LG having the guts and foresight to buy the patterns from Eastman Kodak other manufacturers will have to buy the OLED panels from LG Display, license the technology and build WRGB OLED panel manufacturing factories or if it's possible develop a competing OLED panel that does not violate LG patterns.

Sorry for the run on sentence, but I had a lot of things to say that worked best in one sentence.

-Robert

Drew664 · 01-03-2016, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wafi

Has any Kuro owner made the move to Oled? I'm flirting with the idea and was wondering if any Kuro owner has had any experience with the LG 55 4K Oled (flat panel). I believe the model is LG 55EF9500.

No, and I don't plan to and really haven't even researched tv tech since I bought mine. I still feel I have an awsome set that crushes anything I see in the wild by just the eyeball test (natural colors, blacks, off angle viewing).

Projectors have perked my interest if I can find one at the right price that also fits my room.

I'm not one that lives on the bleeding edge of technology though, and will upgrade when price and desired options fall in line. I don't see that happening for several years out though, and when it does it will most likely be spurred on by a component failure which will be a sad day.

Auditor55 · 01-04-2016, 02:43 AM

The Kuro still have better blacks than many of the 4K LED TV's I see on display with dark blues instead of blacks. The 4K LED are just abysmal when it comes to black.

CHASLS2 · 02-24-2016, 10:59 PM

Not a a chance until they get all the probs fixed with OLED.

Blove23 · 03-03-2016, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CHASLS2

Not a a chance until they get all the probs fixed with OLED.

In do time all technology works itself out. Plasmas were not always perfect and they got there with the Kuro's, and Panny's but those still had issues. The OLED technology is pretty amazing and when you incorporate HDR or Dolby Vision into the OLED it may be the Best television is the Kuro's.

I love my Kuro, but when it goes and it will. I'm 1000% behind OLED technology. OLED from LG is just something Amazing!

CHASLS2 · 03-04-2016, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Blove23

In do time all technology works itself out. Plasmas were not always perfect and they got there with the Kuro's, and Panny's but those still had issues. The OLED technology is pretty amazing and when you incorporate HDR or Dolby Vision into the OLED it may be the Best television is the Kuro's.

I love my Kuro, but when it goes and it will. I'm 1000% behind OLED technology. OLED from LG is just something Amazing!

Plasma was bad for 8 years until the G7 Kuro came out around 2007.

TheZoof · 05-30-2016, 05:34 PM

I still love my Kuro. I use it almost every day! I wish it was a larger screen though.

I am moving into a new home with a set home theater in the next year. I will be making a new purchase.

My friends recently got a nice Epson projector and although it is beautiful it just doesn't seem practical to me.

I want 4k and the best picture possible. I guess a large screen is also very important. I am thinking 75"+ a requirement.

At this point I can't decide... sigh.

12-21-2015, 06:57 PM	#1
wafi Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:along the beltway Home Theater Gallery:26 Blu-ray collection:384 Blu-ray reviews: 11 Trading Score:4	Kuro owners & Oled 4Ks Has any Kuro owner made the move to Oled? I'm flirting with the idea and was wondering if any Kuro owner has had any experience with the LG 55 4K Oled (flat panel). I believe the model is LG 55EF9500.

12-23-2015, 10:50 PM	#14
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Thanks HDTV 1080P. It's not accuracy frame interpolation, I do not know enough about the process LG employed, but it works and you can control it to produce the look you like and reduce motion blur for any content. I'm also anxious to see other manufacturers bring OLED panel technology to the market, but with LG having the guts and foresight to buy the patterns from Eastman Kodak other manufacturers will have to buy the OLED panels from LG Display, license the technology and build WRGB OLED panel manufacturing factories or if it's possible develop a competing OLED panel that does not violate LG patterns. Sorry for the run on sentence, but I had a lot of things to say that worked best in one sentence. -Robert Last edited by Robert Zohn; 12-23-2015 at 11:16 PM.

12-22-2015, 01:29 AM	#2
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	That is exactly what PDP folks migrate to. Once you are spoiled by a premium PDP you can't get a better upgrade than the EF9500. Motion resolution is better on PDP, but contrast and the overall pq, design and 4K HDR, WCG, 10-bit panel make this a very nice upgrade. -Robert

01-10-2016, 02:22 PM	#5
Rblu-Dblu Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Trapped on the Death Star 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:483 Trading Score:12	I'll have to bookmark this thread for future use. My kuro has developed a green line that runs half way up the screen. From my best searching it appears to be an issue that can't be fixed. I'm still using it because I've been unable to find another panel that matches everything I love about it. Motion blur is a huge issue for me as I seem to be more sensitive towards it than anything else. I'll have to check out the LG OLED and see how it compares.

01-10-2016, 05:33 PM	#6
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	If your home theater room or other room can handle a 3 chip DLP projector you might want to consider that. With the launch of 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs this year, some consumers in 2016, 2017, or 2018 are going to get a high end 4K projector or 4K OLED flat panel. I also like the natural organic look of DLP projectors and plasma flat panels. No one makes a 4K plasma, so OLED is the new king of flat panels.

12-22-2015, 01:43 AM	#8
schan1269 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2013 Location:Lake county, Indiana. Opposite end of Gary... Blu-ray reviews:2	Once any of my plasma die...I'm going OLED.

12-22-2015, 02:35 PM	#9
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	I plan on also going either with a high-end 4K projector or 4K OLED flat panel sometime in the future. Once the 4K Blu-ray format is released in 2016 and when I see around 100 native 4K Blu-ray movies to choose from, then I will be very interested in upgrading. I hope that OLED motion resolution will improve over the years.

12-22-2015, 02:50 PM	#10
Pondosinatra Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Calgary, Alberta Home Theater Gallery:45 Trading Score:2	Nope. Have my Kuro in storage as a backup. But I migrated to a Panny ZT. Hoping I can get 5 years out of it at which point I'll examine the current state of technology at that point. My guess is it'll still be dominated by LED based garbage.

12-22-2015, 03:19 PM	#11
COLD_COBRA_ Special Member Member since:Jul 2012 Location:Jacksonville, FL Blu-ray collection:194	I don't have a Kuro but I have a VT60. I'll get one when they have a 75" 4k Oled for $4k or so. Hopefully in 2 years there will be more options.

12-23-2015, 02:03 AM	#13
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	It is nice to have an option to turn off frame interpolation so that a natural repeating frame rate method can be used instead. It's good to see LG making improvements with OLED, they are currently the highest quality flat panel manufactory on the market. That could change when more manufactories start releasing OLED models.

01-04-2016, 02:43 AM	#16
Auditor55 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2011	The Kuro still have better blacks than many of the 4K LED TV's I see on display with dark blues instead of blacks. The 4K LED are just abysmal when it comes to black.

02-24-2016, 10:59 PM	#17
CHASLS2 Expert Member Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Tampa FL area	Not a a chance until they get all the probs fixed with OLED.

05-30-2016, 05:34 PM	#20
TheZoof Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Ottawa,Canada Home Theater Gallery:27 4K collection:850 Blu-ray collection:1636 DVD collection:10 Blu-ray reviews: 38 Trading Score:2	I still love my Kuro. I use it almost every day! I wish it was a larger screen though. I am moving into a new home with a set home theater in the next year. I will be making a new purchase. My friends recently got a nice Epson projector and although it is beautiful it just doesn't seem practical to me. I want 4k and the best picture possible. I guess a large screen is also very important. I am thinking 75"+ a requirement. At this point I can't decide... sigh.

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