who has a 720p HDTV

[problu]

i've recently inquired about swaping my 50" 720p samsung (HPT5054) to a 46" 1080p LCD (LNT4661F) and guess what? i did.i called BB if i can exchange my 50" sammy 720 plasma to a 46" sammy 1080p lcd even i dont have the box anymore they said its ok.so i brought back the sammy 50" and took the 46" lcd home.after 2 days of watching on my new 46" lcd with my sammy BDP1400 i started missing my old 50" plasma i mean even though that plasma is only 720p i think the PQ IMO is much better than this lcd that i've got its more realistic looking and the blacks are much deeper.so what i did is i went to best buy again and took this lcd back and picked up the 50" plasma again (sorry BB) and now my 50" plasma is back and i couldnt more happier.i dont think im going to let this TV go again.

[cpgator]

All my TVs are 720 - only 1080p I have is a projector. I think it is very possible that a 720p TV can produce a better image than a 1080p, depending on model. That is why I don't understand why most people on this forum always seem to recommend a 1080p, regardless of budget.

If my budget means I can get a 1080p, or a larger and higher quality 720p TV - I will pick the 720 every time.

[turboedguy]

Originally Posted by cpgator

All my TVs are 720 - only 1080p I have is a projector. I think it is very possible that a 720p TV can produce a better image than a 1080p, depending on model. That is why I don't understand why most people on this forum always seem to recommend a 1080p, regardless of budget.

If my budget means I can get a 1080p, or a larger and higher quality 720p TV - I will pick the 720 every time.

maybe some people want the most out of their Blu-ray systems, that means 1080 vertical lines of progressive resolution.

tv quality does differ though.

[cpgator]

Originally Posted by turboedguy

maybe some people want the most out of their Blu-ray systems, that means 1080 vertical lines of progressive resolution.

tv quality does differ though.

If you want the most out of your BD, you will pick the TV that produces the best image - period. Do you not think there a many 720p TV that look better than a lot of 1080p TVs?

[turboedguy]

Originally Posted by cpgator

If you want the most out of your BD, you will pick the TV that produces the best image - period. Do you not think there a many 720p TV that look better than a lot of 1080p TVs?

there might be, however the best 720p tv does not look nearly as good as a good 1080p tv.

take the best 1080p plasma and compare it to the best 720p plasma.

Im not talking about comparing a Ploroid to a Poneer.

Proven fact: higher resolution yeilds a better picture.

But as I stated, tv quality differs.

[problu]

Originally Posted by turboedguy

there might be, however the best 720p tv does not look nearly as good as a good 1080p tv.

take the best 1080p plasma and compare it to the best 720p plasma.

Im not talking about comparing a Ploroid to a Poneer.

Proven fact: higher resolution yeilds a better picture.

But as I stated, tv quality differs.

i think whats matter most is the one that looks good into your eyes.it doesnt matter if its 480p,720p,1080p as long as it makes you happy go for it.

[cpgator]

Originally Posted by turboedguy

there might be, however the best 720p tv does not look nearly as good as a good 1080p tv.

take the best 1080p plasma and compare it to the best 720p plasma.

Im not talking about comparing a Ploroid to a Poneer.

Proven fact: higher resolution yeilds a better picture.

But as I stated, tv quality differs.

First of all, it is not a proven fact that higher resolution yeilds a better pictures. There are many different variables to consider when picking the right TV. But you have proved my point that many people here only seemed concerned with the resolution.

If someone can only afford an entry level 1080p TV, or a mid to upper level 720p TV - which would you recommend?

[problu]

Originally Posted by turboedguy

maybe some people want the most out of their Blu-ray systems, that means 1080 vertical lines of progressive resolution.

tv quality does differ though.

i think what all of us need is a CONTENTMENT

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by problu

i think what all of us need is a CONTENTMENT

Amen brother

[U4K61]

Originally Posted by cpgator

All my TVs are 720 - only 1080p I have is a projector. I think it is very possible that a 720p TV can produce a better image than a 1080p, depending on model. That is why I don't understand why most people on this forum always seem to recommend a 1080p, regardless of budget.

If my budget means I can get a 1080p, or a larger and higher quality 720p TV - I will pick the 720 every time.

720p does not have the resolution of 1080p, and therefore, has a lower PQ provided the contrast and color gamot are the same. A 50" set produces what I call 'Screen Door 720p' where the pixel structure is visible. This is a distraction to me if what I am trying to get from 1080p Blu-ray is a smooth looking image with 'detail down to the grain' on set that is going to fill 30% of my vision. It takes but a moment to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p sets on a store display wall.

The Vewing Distance Post.

[cpgator]

Originally Posted by Craig Ruchman

I have a 32" LCD, and 720P is fine for that. (we also have a larger1080P LCD[among others]) But a 50" 720P plasma? The pixels stand out like a like a screen door. Looking at a 50" 720P and 1080P set on a store display wall - it takes all but a moment to see which is 720P or 1080P. Besides, why degrade a 1080P blu ray image to fit a lower spatial resolution?

I am not sure if you read any of my other posts, but if you had you would realize that I said depending on budget, sometimes it is better to get a 720p TV because it could mean a better picture. Yes, if you are looking at two quality TVs, one 720 and the other 1080, the 1080 will probably look a little better. However, personal budgets do not always allow for a large quality 1080p TV.

My first HDTV purchase was a 55" 720p RPTV. It was a high end TV and still produces an amazing picture. At the time of purchase, there were no 1080p TVs on the market.

My next purchase was a 42" 720 plasma for the bedroom. 1080p TVs were now available, but still expensive. I could have picked one up, but I would have had to go smaller or get a no name entry level model. I opted for the brand name quality 720 TV, and I am still very happy with it.

Next purchase was a 32" 720 plasma for the living room. For the size and distance to the TV, 1080p would have been pointless. The TV has a beautiful image and I am very happy with it.

Next purchase was 3 32" 720 plasmas (one for each kids room, and 1 for the kids game room). Since I was buying 3 at a time, 1080 would have been much more expensive - plus because of the size and because they were for the kids, I didn't care...

All of the above TVs (with the exception of the RPTV), I had a budget I need to stick to, and 1080 TVs would not work within that budget. I am happy with all of them, and I think for the money, I am getting the best picture possible.

The last purchase was the projector - of this I went with 1080p because I had a higher budget, and at 110", the resolution would make a difference.

If I had tons of money and no budget to stick to, perhaps all my TVs would be 1080p - but sadly, I live in the real world.

[RWebb74]

I think my 50" sony rear projection that I bought 2 and 1/2 years ago has a better high picture than most of the 1080p's I see in the store right now. I'm not sure why, but of the other people I know that have full 1080p and even the ones that don't, everyone is always amazed at how nice my picture is when in HD.

[jswilli1]

I too bought my 55" Sony 720P rear projection 2.5yrs ago and still enjoy the PQ i get through My PS3 and Dish Network. When I was shopping for my TV I took budget as a major factor, I looked at the TV's visually side by side at BB, Good Guys, Circuit City and picked the TV that was most visually appealing to me. I also took in to account how easy it would be to replace the bulb when it went out (this can be expensive for the part and the service to replace it!). I was watching Cars on Blu-ray yesteday and just could not get over how vivid the colors where, the textures, and how well the movie was done. I have seen Cars on DVD countless times and this was the first time I actually noticed "things" due to the better PQ. I never noticed Mater in the court room blowing a spit bubble before yesterday!

[ground chuck]

Originally Posted by RWebb74

I think my 50" sony rear projection that I bought 2 and 1/2 years ago has a better high picture than most of the 1080p's I see in the store right now. I'm not sure why, but of the other people I know that have full 1080p and even the ones that don't, everyone is always amazed at how nice my picture is when in HD.

while you're entitled to your opinion, there's is no way your tv has a better picture than my 1080p sammy.

anything under 40" does not need to be 1080p 720p will work just fine. above 40" some people have better vision than others thus their recommendation for 1080p.

[jcs913]

Unfortunately, this thread has turned into a 'mine is better than yours' The initial question was; why did his 720p plasma look better than his 1080p lcd. His answer was in his question. Plasma's, when adjusted properly, will have better black levels and better shadow detail than almost any lcd. Its the display technology.

[JasonR]

I got led away from Plasmas from my retailer because of Burn-In and cost of a 1080P Plasma. He owns both a plasma and a LCD, his plazzy has burn. I bought the same LCD he did and I am completely satisfied. He is my corporate CDW rep who I have worked with for 3 years, so I trust his opinion. I would just say in the 1500 dollar range, you can't beat a 1080P LCD.

[jcs913]

Originally Posted by JasonR

I got led away from Plasmas from my retailer because of Burn-In and cost of a 1080P Plasma. He owns both a plasma and a LCD, his plazzy has burn. I bought the same LCD he did and I am completely satisfied. He is my corporate CDW rep who I have worked with for 3 years, so I trust his opinion. I would just say in the 1500 dollar range, you can't beat a 1080P LCD.

Ironically, I have seen 5 times as many LCD's with bad pixels as Plasma's with burn.

[U4K61]

Originally Posted by ground chuck

while you're entitled to your opinion, there's is no way your tv has a better picture than my 1080p sammy. anything under 40" does not need to be 1080p 720p will work just fine. above 40" some people have better vision than others thus their recommendation for 1080p.

That is false, it just depends on how close you sit to the screen.

If you are not seeing a diffrence betwen 720p and 1080p, you are sittting too far back, such as from across a room - a holdover from analogue 480i where we had to be back at least 7 screen heights so as not to have trouble with the scan lines. I find with 1080p, good PQ is about 3 screen heights back for movies, 2 for video games - a bit closer then the Screen Size/Distance/Resolution charts reccomend.

Originally Posted by turboedguy

there might be, however the best 720p tv does not look nearly as good as a good 1080p tv. take the best 1080p plasma and compare it to the best 720p plasma.
Im not talking about comparing a Ploroid to a Poneer.
Proven fact: higher resolution yeilds a better picture.
But as I stated, tv quality differs.

The Viewing Distance Post

[Frode]

The LNT4661F is actually a decent 1080P set, so calibrated it should look better than that 720P plasma when being fed 1080P material. Basing your decisions on uncalibrated displays is very counterproductive towards achieving comparable results. All you'd be doing is fooling yourself.

[hellmonkey]

i have a samy 720 dlp i got last year. it was $1000 cheaper than 1080p at the time. i sit about 9 feet away from the tv. im sure i could probably see a difference between 720 and 1080, but enough enough to warrant the price difference.