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Old 05-22-2018, 10:18 PM   #1
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Damn Disney!
All I find in stores for Star Wars: The Last Jedi & Black Panther are:
Blu-Ray + Digital Copy combo package & DVD by itself. Are they no longer going to package Blu-Ray + DVD + Digital Copy combos?

And on top of it, the Blu-Ray + Digital Copy combo packages are STILL the same price they were when the DVD was included. So now we get less items in the package but for the price as before.
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:24 PM   #2
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This is standard. Studios take away and charge the same or more in some cases. I wish they'd have taken the DVD copy out and charged $3-5 less.
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Old 05-22-2018, 11:03 PM   #3
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This is standard. Studios take away and charge the same or more in some cases. I wish they'd have taken the DVD copy out and charged $3-5 less.
It's part of Blu-ray that I've never understood. Why do they even come with DVDs? DVDs didn't come with a VHS included...

Granted, I do buy 4K/Blu combos without the ability to play 4K yet... but blu-ray players are in majority of homes nowadays thanks to PlayStation and Xbox.
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Old 05-22-2018, 11:05 PM   #4
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It's part of Blu-ray that I've never understood. Why do they even come with DVDs? DVDs didn't come with a VHS included...

Granted, I do buy 4K/Blu combos without the ability to play 4K yet... but blu-ray players are in majority of homes nowadays thanks to PlayStation and Xbox.
I understand DVD copies being included in 2008 when Blu-ray was new, but a decade later? Little bit ridiculous. Charge us $14.99-$17.99 for a Blu-ray/Digital and call it a day.
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Old 05-23-2018, 01:09 AM   #5
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I understand DVD copies being included in 2008 when Blu-ray was new, but a decade later? Little bit ridiculous. Charge us $14.99-$17.99 for a Blu-ray/Digital and call it a day.
DVD's probably cost them like $.10 to manufacture anyway at this point. So whether they include it or not is relatively negligible to their actual costs.

I have never personally found them useful. But people do have DVD entertainment systems in the back sets of their cars, and I don't think blu-ray ever really became much of a thing in cars. So I guess that is one legitimate use people still might have for DVD copies. I agree it's kind of annoying though, especially some of the niche releases that are 1 blu-ray and 2DVD (Arrow video, I'm looking at you).
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I understand DVD copies being included in 2008 when Blu-ray was new, but a decade later? Little bit ridiculous. Charge us $14.99-$17.99 for a Blu-ray/Digital and call it a day.
If they took out the dvd they would still charge everybody the same price as before. the dvd is basically free to include since it lets them do larger print runs (because you increase the market size).

Its pretty simple a dvd costs basically nothing to include and it increases the number of people you can sell the product to. I do in fact know people who still use the dvds for car dvd players and the dvd determines whether they buy a combo pack or not ( they bought a 4k movie and are annoyed it did not include a dvd for car trips). The dvd is also so cheap to produce its basically free to throw in but it makes people feel like they are getting more.

Also When they remove the dvd in general the price doesn't change at all its more of a $20 for a blu ray combo or 20 for just the blu ray (as demonstrated by black panthers walmart release right now).
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Old 05-23-2018, 01:02 PM   #7
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I understand DVD copies being included in 2008 when Blu-ray was new, but a decade later? Little bit ridiculous. Charge us $14.99-$17.99 for a Blu-ray/Digital and call it a day.
I'm fine w/ studios taking the DVD out of the combo packs as I never use them. However, they're not going to charge less for Blu-rays, combo packs, exclusives, etc. as the average consumer is buying less and less physical media and moving to digital and streaming instead. As a Blu-ray collector, they're still going to get my money while I hold onto hope that Blu-rays stick around for as long as possible.
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Old 05-23-2018, 01:19 AM   #8
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It's part of Blu-ray that I've never understood. Why do they even come with DVDs? DVDs didn't come with a VHS included...
Because they're both disc-based formats, and you can play a DVD in a Blu-ray player. And the "second copy for the kids in the car" etc already mentioned seemed to be a prevailing thought.

You can't play a VHS tape in a DVD player

Nowadays, DVD or digital, neither are useful to me. I make my own digital copies to my own specs to watch the movies I bought on any device at any time, with the original Blu-ray (or the original DVD, before there was Blu-ray) as a backup.

For a while I had some success selling the extra DVDs or digital copies, but I still have stacks of them that I haven't been able to get rid of.
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:24 AM   #9
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Nowadays, DVD or digital, neither are useful to me. I make my own digital copies to my own specs to watch the movies I bought on any device at any time, with the original Blu-ray (or the original DVD, before there was Blu-ray) as a backup.
That's why they're not including them anymore. Not necessarily because they're saving costs.
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Old 05-23-2018, 04:43 AM   #10
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This is standard. Studios take away and charge the same or more in some cases. I wish they'd have taken the DVD copy out and charged $3-5 less.
You think a DVD costs $3-5?
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Old 05-23-2018, 06:05 AM   #11
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You think a DVD costs $3-5?
The physical product doesn't cost much to make but its certainly worth that in value as its a 2nd physical copy of the movie.

Also thats why studios stopped including it, people were selling the dvds on ebay or giving to friends which could take away a potential additional new sale the studio would have made money on.
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Old 05-23-2018, 12:52 PM   #12
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Also thats why studios stopped including it, people were selling the dvds on ebay or giving to friends which could take away a potential additional new sale the studio would have made money on.
I've given away DVD copies from combo packs to family members for birthdays and Christmases for the last five or so years.
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:58 PM   #13
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I've given away DVD copies from combo packs to family members for birthdays and Christmases for the last five or so years.
My family does this a lot too. Between my two siblings and my parents (all movie collectors) everyone usually takes the extra DVDs to our parents house and they have a binder of them we just switch around. Although more and more lately we have been moving to just shared Vudu accounts, which is much simpler (in theory).
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The vast majority of DVDs on eBay are from combo packs or are new counterfeit copies. Therefore selling DVDs on eBay doesn't take any money away from the studios it only takes money away from counterfeiters.
Splitting the dvd also doesn't really make money. If you try to sell a blu ray and a dvd separately they both sell for way less then in a combo pack because you are now selling incomplete sets that cant be listed at above acceptable condition. Not many people want to buy a loose dvd so it will only get you a couple of dollars and if you ever decide to sell the blu ray you will take a huge hit in resell value for being short a dvd (even if the buyer doesnt care about the dvd they will haggle you down way more then the value you got for the dvd for having a incomplete item or it will take way more time to sell on average).
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Old 05-23-2018, 07:19 PM   #15
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Wow, this blew up faster & w/more posts than expected; nice to know so many people have thoughts on this.

The reason I like buying the Blu-ray+DVD+DC combos is that my kids have a DVD player in their rooms & I have a Blu-Ray in my room. This way, if the kids want to watch a movie in their room, they don't need to use my room if I'm either watching something else on TV/DVR/Blu-Ray.

I do have some DCs, but I don't watch them too much. That being said, it is good to have them; I just don't care much for any online storage. I guess the online movie storage programs are ok, there's not much personal info anyone can steal.
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As long as they keep the digital. However, they seem to be testing the waters on that one too...
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As long as they keep the digital. However, they seem to be testing the waters on that one too...
People were speculating that Walmart wanted that as an exclusive due to the high theft within their stores.
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:31 AM   #18
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As long as they keep the digital. However, they seem to be testing the waters on that one too...
I've seen copies of Last Jedi at Walmart with just the Blu-Ray, no DVD or digital.
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I've seen copies of Last Jedi at Walmart with just the Blu-Ray, no DVD or digital.
I know they did that with Black Panther, I didn't know they did it to TLJ too. Maybe it's a way to combat the sale of digital copies.
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I know they did that with Black Panther, I didn't know they did it to TLJ too. Maybe it's a way to combat the sale of digital copies.
Considering that Walmart has racks and racks of digital copies selling for a full TWENTY DOLLARS...
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