The Highdef BIAS strikes again with a review of Saw 4 - Blu-ray Forum

Ice2Dragon · 01-16-2008, 04:21 AM

Shocking.

3.5 stars overall. "for fans only"

WTF IS THIS BS? They rated the high def extras, 1 star, the online blogging feature.

PROBLEM?

Cant use it right now until the updates.

... "Well review it and update the rating when we can use it"

2 star movie overall? WTF?

Good lord.. at least when they review blu rays, try to NOT make your bias against blu rays show..

just once.. please?

FourToedStatue · 01-16-2008, 04:42 AM

Its mind boggling to me that people still think Bracke gives low scores on some blu rays because of some imaginary bias. More often than not he's right on the money and Lionsgate is not exactly the best when it comes to quality transfers.

martinstraka8282 · 01-16-2008, 04:50 AM

I know I can't speak for anyone else, but I couldn't stand any of the Saw movies and the online blogging is IMO a stupid feature... but to each his own and I respect that. hell I loved Idlewild and a LOT of people hate that movie.

WickyWoo · 01-16-2008, 04:50 AM

It's a slapdash assembly line torture porn film that wasn't very good in its first iteration. 2 stars isn't bias. If you're notice the technical categories are just fine

He's right. If you haven't watched the first 3, it's not for you. If you enjoy it, good for you, go buy it and enjoy it. There's hundreds of movies out there that I like, but i would never claim are "good'

darkpoet25 · 01-16-2008, 05:00 AM

Take it for what it is a review. All of our ideas of a good BD are going to be different. Me personally, I thought the first Saw was good, the rest were pointless in my opinion. If you are a fan and are upset I understand and you are within your rights to be. However at least respect that it is HIS opinion and he is entitled to it. Not every BD that is reviewed here is favorable either. A bad movie is a bad movie, period, regardless of the format.

dobyblue · 01-16-2008, 01:23 PM

Who cares what a reviewer thinks of the movie overall.

I only ever look at the PQ and AQ ratings on any site anyway.

Saw IV got 4/5 for PQ and 4.5/5 for AQ.

That's good!

Blu Titan · 01-16-2008, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Who cares what a reviewer thinks of the movie overall.

I only ever look at the PQ and AQ ratings on any site anyway.

Saw IV got 4/5 for PQ and 4.5/5 for AQ.

That's good!

I agree. Just read the review and it is not biased at all. The movie is not for everyone. The overall rating of 3.5 is pretty good, and the film received very good marks in PQ and AQ. I was buying it no matter what, so I am pleased with the AQ and PQ part of the review.

Bullseye · 01-16-2008, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Who cares what a reviewer thinks of the movie overall.

I only ever look at the PQ and AQ ratings on any site anyway.

Saw IV got 4/5 for PQ and 4.5/5 for AQ.

That's good!

Agreed. The review of the movie is subjective.

slayer3113 · 01-16-2008, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Who cares what a reviewer thinks of the movie overall.

I only ever look at the PQ and AQ ratings on any site anyway.

Saw IV got 4/5 for PQ and 4.5/5 for AQ.

That's good!

Same here. I could care less what a reviewer thinks about about the movie itself. I usually look for the PQ AND AQ cause they are usually pretty right on as far as that goes.

UTVOL06 · 01-16-2008, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

It's a slapdash assembly line torture porn film that wasn't very good in its first iteration. 2 stars isn't bias. If you're notice the technical categories are just fine

He's right. If you haven't watched the first 3, it's not for you. If you enjoy it, good for you, go buy it and enjoy it. There's hundreds of movies out there that I like, but i would never claim are "good'

I agree. I liked the first Saw movie, but it went downhill after that. Saw 4 just plain sucked..its like they were trying to hard to carry on the series by coming up with new people that are involved.

the only thing ok about the movie was how he got started doing it. It was also overly graphic to the point of rediculousness. Why do we need to see every little detail of a brain autopsy? And for crying out loud I didn't want to see the old man's penis for more than 1 second.

statikcat · 01-16-2008, 02:55 PM

Wow 3.5 overall for a crappy movie is a great score.

Blus Brother · 01-16-2008, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackBauer24

Its mind boggling to me that people still think Bracke gives low scores on some blu rays because of some imaginary bias. More often than not he's right on the money and Lionsgate is not exactly the best when it comes to quality transfers.

and all 3 Saw movies after the first sucked!

kiskiboy97 · 01-16-2008, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice2Dragon

Shocking.

3.5 stars overall. "for fans only"

WTF IS THIS BS? They rated the high def extras, 1 star, the online blogging feature.

PROBLEM?

Cant use it right now until the updates.

... "Well review it and update the rating when we can use it"

2 star movie overall? WTF?

Good lord.. at least when they review blu rays, try to NOT make your bias against blu rays show..

just once.. please?

Frankly I agree with him with the rating for the special feature. What good is it if nobody can use it? What he wrote about it is fair.

If he didn't like the movie, he didn't like the movie. You will never find a reviewer that rates every movie the same way you would. It's one thing to challenge a reviewer on their ratings of the technical aspects of the disc, but I find it strange that so many people bash a reviewer because they didn't like a movie, or the reviewer liked a movie others didn't.

cathexist · 01-16-2008, 02:26 PM

A bad review for a the movie itself does not show bias.

They hated Good Luck Chuck (which I am avoiding like the plague)

And I'm not a fan of the Saw series...so I wouldn't give the movie a high review either.

I think it's perfectly logical for them to say they will review the Profile 2.0 features when they acquire a 2.0 player...

p.s. as a previous poster on this thread mentioned. It got high scores for both video and audio, and honestly 3 stars for supplements isn't that bad either. We'll see what they think when they get the profile 2.0 player (hopefully we get a PS3 firmware update for that soon)

Josh · 01-16-2008, 02:32 PM

The online blogging feature is actually really, really cool. They showed it in action at CES, and it basically has little bubbles come up while you are watching the movie. So the director was basically talking about his inspiration for a scene, making jokes, and it was funny and insightful at the same time.

Verbal · 01-16-2008, 02:42 PM

The irony in the original post is just freakin' awesome.

Barulez2k7 · 01-16-2008, 09:34 PM

I buy that even it doesn't have a great review.

TJones8124 · 01-16-2008, 09:44 PM

The movie sucked. I'd have given it 1 star. I haven't seen it in Blu, nor do I intend to. It looks like the guy gave it high PQ and AQ ratings.

He's not bashing blu, he's bashing the movie...which, a lot of people will agree, isn't that great (especially if you don't like the genre).

Gamma_Winstead · 01-16-2008, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice2Dragon

Shocking.

3.5 stars overall. "for fans only"

WTF IS THIS BS? They rated the high def extras, 1 star, the online blogging feature.

PROBLEM?

Cant use it right now until the updates.

... "Well review it and update the rating when we can use it"

2 star movie overall? WTF?

Good lord.. at least when they review blu rays, try to NOT make your bias against blu rays show..

just once.. please?

Resident Evil PQ= 3.5
3: 10 to Yuma movie= 2
PQ for 3: 10= 3.5

BIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSEEEEEDDDDD!!!!!!

KenThompson · 01-16-2008, 10:06 PM

Just read the review. He just doesn't like the movie. So what we all have our opinions. He did say it was the best looking in the series so far and gave it a 4 star rating. I have found at times his reviews do lean towards dud bias but he was fair on this one. He also just reviewed Con Air and he was right on the money with the edge enhancement. He also gave it a 4 but also said it was a massive jump in quality fron s dvd.

01-16-2008, 04:21 AM	#1
Ice2Dragon Power Member Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:9	The Highdef BIAS strikes again with a review of Saw 4 Shocking. 3.5 stars overall. "for fans only" WTF IS THIS BS? They rated the high def extras, 1 star, the online blogging feature. PROBLEM? Cant use it right now until the updates. ... "Well review it and update the rating when we can use it" 2 star movie overall? WTF? Good lord.. at least when they review blu rays, try to NOT make your bias against blu rays show.. just once.. please?

01-16-2008, 02:26 PM	#14
cathexist Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Aurora, CO 4K collection:302 Blu-ray collection:1253 DVD collection:73 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:8	A bad review for a the movie itself does not show bias. They hated Good Luck Chuck (which I am avoiding like the plague) And I'm not a fan of the Saw series...so I wouldn't give the movie a high review either. I think it's perfectly logical for them to say they will review the Profile 2.0 features when they acquire a 2.0 player... p.s. as a previous poster on this thread mentioned. It got high scores for both video and audio, and honestly 3 stars for supplements isn't that bad either. We'll see what they think when they get the profile 2.0 player (hopefully we get a PS3 firmware update for that soon) Last edited by cathexist; 01-16-2008 at 02:29 PM.

01-16-2008, 09:34 PM	#17
Barulez2k7 Member Member since:Jan 2008	I buy that! I buy that even it doesn't have a great review.

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01-16-2008, 04:42 AM	#2
FourToedStatue Active Member Member since:Sep 2006	Its mind boggling to me that people still think Bracke gives low scores on some blu rays because of some imaginary bias. More often than not he's right on the money and Lionsgate is not exactly the best when it comes to quality transfers.

01-16-2008, 04:50 AM	#3
martinstraka8282 Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 4K collection:401 Blu-ray collection:1466 DVD collection:1 Trading Score:1	I know I can't speak for anyone else, but I couldn't stand any of the Saw movies and the online blogging is IMO a stupid feature... but to each his own and I respect that. hell I loved Idlewild and a LOT of people hate that movie.

01-16-2008, 04:50 AM	#4
WickyWoo Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2007 Trading Score:2	It's a slapdash assembly line torture porn film that wasn't very good in its first iteration. 2 stars isn't bias. If you're notice the technical categories are just fine He's right. If you haven't watched the first 3, it's not for you. If you enjoy it, good for you, go buy it and enjoy it. There's hundreds of movies out there that I like, but i would never claim are "good'

01-16-2008, 05:00 AM	#5
darkpoet25 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Indianapolis, IN Home Theater Gallery:45 4K collection:50 Blu-ray collection:297 Blu-ray reviews: 4	Take it for what it is a review. All of our ideas of a good BD are going to be different. Me personally, I thought the first Saw was good, the rest were pointless in my opinion. If you are a fan and are upset I understand and you are within your rights to be. However at least respect that it is HIS opinion and he is entitled to it. Not every BD that is reviewed here is favorable either. A bad movie is a bad movie, period, regardless of the format.

01-16-2008, 01:23 PM	#6
dobyblue Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:71 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:655 Blu-ray reviews: 15	Who cares what a reviewer thinks of the movie overall. I only ever look at the PQ and AQ ratings on any site anyway. Saw IV got 4/5 for PQ and 4.5/5 for AQ. That's good!

01-16-2008, 02:55 PM	#11
statikcat Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Washington, DC Blu-ray collection:67	Wow 3.5 overall for a crappy movie is a great score.

01-16-2008, 02:32 PM	#15
Josh Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Home Theater Gallery:50 4K collection:37 Blu-ray collection:407 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 15 Trading Score:34	The online blogging feature is actually really, really cool. They showed it in action at CES, and it basically has little bubbles come up while you are watching the movie. So the director was basically talking about his inspiration for a scene, making jokes, and it was funny and insightful at the same time.

01-16-2008, 02:42 PM	#16
Verbal Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Toronto, ON 4K collection:172 Blu-ray collection:867 DVD collection:117 Blu-ray reviews: 5	The irony in the original post is just freakin' awesome.

01-16-2008, 09:44 PM	#18
TJones8124 Member Member since:Sep 2007	The movie sucked. I'd have given it 1 star. I haven't seen it in Blu, nor do I intend to. It looks like the guy gave it high PQ and AQ ratings. He's not bashing blu, he's bashing the movie...which, a lot of people will agree, isn't that great (especially if you don't like the genre).

01-16-2008, 10:06 PM	#20
KenThompson Power Member Member since:Sep 2006 Location:B.C. Canada	Just read the review. He just doesn't like the movie. So what we all have our opinions. He did say it was the best looking in the series so far and gave it a 4 star rating. I have found at times his reviews do lean towards dud bias but he was fair on this one. He also just reviewed Con Air and he was right on the money with the edge enhancement. He also gave it a 4 but also said it was a massive jump in quality fron s dvd.

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