DIABOLIK DVD to declare Canadian packages at full value starting today

[pixote]

Posted on their Facebook page;

Effective immediately all packages going to Canada will be declared at full merchandise value. Please factor that in when ordering. As always, we are not responsible for duties on items entering your country.

[Thebunk]

This is not good. Severin have basically stated a similar message as well.

[SleazyForWeasley]

Is there a reason the full value of an item SHOULDN'T be declared?

[Animatic33]

Originally Posted by SleazyForWeasley

Is there a reason the full value of an item SHOULDN'T be declared?

They should be declared at the price the customer paid. I believe that is the law and otherwise fair.

I have edited out my initial information on taxes, please see zeze’s post below for accurate information.

I have no issue with stores declaring proper values and paying taxes, I do have issue with couriers imposing huge fees on handling the customs paperwork, and the lack of a modern system for online customs declarations for customers.

[pixote]

Originally Posted by Animatic33

They should be declared at the price the customer paid. I believe that is the law and otherwise fair.

However, Canada imposes a “very reasonable in 2021” (/s) limit of $40 CAD maximum tax free amount on cross border purchase. When most buying from outside the country often hinges on at least $100 USD purchase for free shipping options, well, deals start to lose their luster fast.

I have no issue with stores declaring proper values and paying taxes, I do have issue with carriers imposing huge fees on handling the customs paperwork, and the lack of a modern system for online customs declarations for customers.

I agree with what you’ve said. I don’t mind paying the actual taxes, it’s the paperwork or admin charge that hurts, especially when they ding you on a low value package (which luckily doesn’t happen often).

[zeze]

Originally Posted by Animatic33

They should be declared at the price the customer paid. I believe that is the law and otherwise fair.

However, Canada imposes a “very reasonable in 2021” (/s) limit of $40 CAD maximum tax free amount on cross border purchase. When most buying from outside the country often hinges on at least $100 USD purchase for free shipping options, well, deals start to lose their luster fast.

I have no issue with stores declaring proper values and paying taxes, I do have issue with carriers imposing huge fees on handling the customs paperwork, and the lack of a modern system for online customs declarations for customers.

The limit is still only $20 CAD (for taxes and duties) if it comes via USPS. The limit is only $40 CAD for taxes (and $150 for duties) if it is coming via courier from the US and Mexico. If it is coming via courier from any other country besides those 2 the limit is also still $20.

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/services...s-efv-eng.html

And in case anyone is wondering and is not aware, movies are only subjected to taxes and not duties.

[SleazyForWeasley]

Originally Posted by Animatic33

They should be declared at the price the customer paid. I believe that is the law and otherwise fair.

I have edited out my initial information on taxes, please see zeze’s post below for accurate information.

I have no issue with stores declaring proper values and paying taxes, I do have issue with couriers imposing huge fees on handling the customs paperwork, and the lack of a modern system for online customs declarations for customers.

I am obviously not in Canada so I wasn't sure what the deal was. I understand now.

[Rui]

Originally Posted by SleazyForWeasley

Is there a reason the full value of an item SHOULDN'T be declared?

taxation is theft.



(I'm half kidding before anyone gets too riled up...)

[Animatic33]

Originally Posted by Rui

taxation is theft.



(I'm half kidding before anyone gets too riled up...)

Haha, especially these days it REALLY feels like it!!

Originally Posted by zeze

The limit is still only $20 CAD (for taxes and duties) if it comes via USPS. The limit is only $40 CAD for taxes (and $150 for duties) if it is coming via courier from the US and Mexico. If it is coming via courier from any other country besides those 2 the limit is also still $20.

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/services...s-efv-eng.html

And in case anyone is wondering and is not aware, movies are only subjected to taxes and not duties.

Thank you, I have updated my post to reflect this information. I wrongfully thought the $40 US/Mexico imports were across the board. Of course they aren’t, that makes too much sense.

[ertman]

Originally Posted by Animatic33

Haha, especially these days it REALLY feels like it!!

Brings up a good question, what do you think has changed? I'd say its our buying habits of buying internationally.

[Thebunk]

Originally Posted by ertman

Brings up a good question, what do you think has changed? I'd say its our buying habits of buying internationally.

Yeah but the only change is the retail consumer’s spending habits have changed as the world has gotten smaller and more connected. Industry has been trading among countries for decades.

It really comes down to what pixote and Animatic33 have stated. And as always, when taxation causes additional work and/or costs for companies, they will almost always pass that cost onto the customer.

I personally think both the duty and taxes structure needs to change to mirror the modern world, as well as how companies charges these “admin”, “import fees”, etc.

[Mr Walker]

Originally Posted by Rui

taxation is theft.



(I'm half kidding before anyone gets too riled up...)

As an aussie I'm not kidding when I say the "admin" charges are 100% theft.

[ilovedealsonmovies]

so they had been cheating the sytem before aka got busted why they do it now? lol

[suddend]

As far as I know I've never been charged duty on movies, only tax. I don't know if this is because of the category, or just because they fall into items made in North America which are duty free of course.

[GreatGreg]

Originally Posted by suddend

As far as I know I've never been charged duty on movies, only tax. I don't know if this is because of the category, or just because they fall into items made in North America which are duty free of course.

I've been told by customs agents that duty and tax are the same thing.

[suddend]

Originally Posted by GreatGreg

I've been told by customs agents that duty and tax are the same thing.

Ya that isn't true

Tax is on any items over a certain value should they wish to enforce it.

Duty is on top of that on items made outside North America excluding certain categories of products

[J.P. Samson]

Originally Posted by suddend

Ya that isn't true

Tax is on any items over a certain value should they wish to enforce it.

Duty is on top of that on items made outside North America excluding certain categories of products

Yeah, tax is the sales tax. Same sales tax you'd pay if you bought the item in your home province.

Duty is the same thing as a tariff. You know, the penalties you keep hearing Trump/Biden tossing around. It applies to certain classes of goods from other countries to punish those country's industries.

I don't think there are any tariffs applied to Blu-Ray discs regardless from where in the world they are coming from. 10 or 15 years ago there were, though. I remember having to pay actual duty on CDs coming from the U.K. at one point.

JP

[J.P. Samson]

I have thought about ordering some hard-to-get stuff from Diabolik. Do they tend to ship by courier or by USPS? Since these items would be valued at $60-$80, courier customs fees could get outrageous.

JP