PlayStation Portal (Project Q) - PS5 Dedicated Streaming Device

[heyadol]

Sony announced Project Q, a PS5 game-streaming accessory, at PlayStation Showcase 2023. More details will be announced in the future, here is what we know now:

Name - Project Q (may not be the final name)
Price - TBD
Available - TBD
Games - Streamed via PS Remote Play
Connection - Wi-Fi
Controls - Integrated DualSense controller
Display - 8" 1920*1080 60Hz LCD
Battery - TBD

PlayStation Showcase 2023 - Accessories Sneak Peek

PlayStation Showcase 2023 - Accessories Sneak Peek - YouTube

In the above video, Jim Ryan says:

We will launch a dedicated device that enables you to stream any game from your PS5 console using Remote Play over Wi-Fi. Internally known as ‘Project Q,’ it has an 8-inch HD screen and all of the buttons and features of the DualSense wireless controller.

Sony's press release incudes a few more details:

In addition to highlighting its robust software roadmap, SIE also announced Project Q, a dedicated device launching later this year that enables you to play any compatible(1) game installed on your PS5 console using Remote Play over Wi-Fi(2). With a vibrant 8-inch LCD screen capable of up to 1080p resolution at 60fps, the device delivers crisp visuals and smooth gameplay streamed from your PS5 when you’re away from your TV. All of the buttons and features of the DualSense wireless controller, including adaptive triggers and haptic feedback, are featured on the device(3).

(1) Games that require a VR headset (PlayStation VR or PlayStation VR2) or additional peripherals (other than a DUALSHOCK 4, DualSense, or DualSense Edge wireless controller) are not compatible. Games that must be streamed on PS5 using a PS Plus Premium membership are not compatible.

(2) Device requires broadband internet Wi-Fi with at least 5Mbps for use. For a better play experience, a high-speed connection of at least 15Mbps is recommended. The quality and connectivity of your play experience may vary depending on your network environment. A PlayStation 5 console and a PlayStation Network account are required.

(3) Haptic feedback and adaptive trigger features are only available when those features are supported by the game being played.

https://sonyinteractive.com/en/press...-spider-man-2/

PS Remote Play allows you to

Stream your PlayStation games1 from your console to your phone, tablet, laptop, desktop, PS5 or PS4 consoles.

What do I need?

PS Remote Play is a feature available on all PS4 and PS5 consoles. All you need is:

• Your PS5 or PS5 Digital Edition, PS4 or PS4 Pro2 connected to a broadband network.
• A compatible device – also connected to your network.
• The free PS Remote Play app.
• A DUALSHOCK 4, DualSense, or DualSense Edge wireless controller.
• At least 5Mbps internet - we recommend at least 15Mbps for a better experience. If you choose to use a mobile data connection to access Remote Play features, this will use your mobile data allowance. If you exceed your mobile data allowance, you may be charged by your mobile provider.
• A compatible PlayStation game.

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/remote-play/

[heyadol]

For those curious about Project Q, but not sure how functional it will be using PS Remote Play is, why not try it out now by pairing a DualSense controller with your mobile device and/or PC? Sony also promotes Backbone as a BYOD alternative.

iPhone (Lightning)
https://blog.playstation.com/2022/07...r-playstation/

Android (USB Type-C)
https://blog.playstation.com/2023/05...android-today/

Razor Kishi is another BYOD alternative.

iPhone (Lightning)
https://www.razer.com/mobile-control...-v2-for-iphone

Android (USB Type-C)
https://www.razer.com/mobile-control...v2-for-android

[Talal86]

I used to use remote play a lot on my ipad/laptop with a controller, but now I usually play native steam deck games if I’m watching the tv, which made Steam become my main gaming platform

If they they managed to make remote play better than the non dedicated devices, I’m interested

[Zivouhr]

If I was interested, I would have hoped for a way to plug in the display controller, as holding a charge and having to recharge is a hassle IMO. I want the option to have a plug in adapter, not to charge, but to power it.

If the new system was 49.99, I'd be interested potentially, if you could download the games instead of only streaming. In other words, it's not made with me in mind. I'd guess 199.99 minimum price, and 299.99 max price if they want to sell units.

[Tommy K]

It’s basically Vita 2.0 meh, no thanks. I want to see the PS5 slim, not this garbage. Why Sony now wants to compete with Nintendo Switch, who knows. This thing will flop badly.

[Steelmaker]

I could see this thing maybe taking off in the Asian markets if the price is right. For what this is, I'd say the price needs to be 150.00 on the low end but no higher than 200.00. I mean, what are we talking about here, tech wise? A split Dualsense controller, a cheap 1080p LCD screen, and WiFi? There's no processing power in this thing, no storage, no RAM, etc. If this costs more than 200.00 I think it would be dead in the water.

[Talal86]

Originally Posted by Tommy K

It’s basically Vita 2.0 meh, no thanks. I want to see the PS5 slim, not this garbage. Why Sony now wants to compete with Nintendo Switch, who knows. This thing will flop badly.

it's not a vita 2.0, and they're not competing with the switch. but they should, handheld is more popular than ever

[heyadol]

Originally Posted by Tommy K

It’s basically Vita 2.0 meh, no thanks. I want to see the PS5 slim, not this garbage. Why Sony now wants to compete with Nintendo Switch, who knows. This thing will flop badly.

I’d be much more interested in a Vita 2.0 than what little we know of Project Q. Also, I don’t think any PS5 slim rumors have been substantiated. It would be nice though, especially if they can find a way to reduce the heat output (summer is coming).

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

I understand, thanks Talal.
So it can be accomplished with a smart phone and controller. That's cool, I didn't know that was possible with PS5. i wonder if those larger tablets work too probably, for a larger screen.

Right, that was kind of the message in post #2. A reminder that PS Remote Play is available now with equipment you probably already own. It’s ok, maybe Project Q will make it better but who knows.

[XavierTheaterPotato]

If it functions the same way as Remote play on the phone, then I don't want it if it doesn't at all have cloud gaming. I just can't figure out Remote Play, I heard it can run with the PS5 while in Rest mode, but it turns on every time I try.

[Talal86]

Originally Posted by XavierTheaterPotato

If it functions the same way as Remote play on the phone, then I don't want it if it doesn't at all have cloud gaming. I just can't figure out Remote Play, I heard it can run with the PS5 while in Rest mode, but it turns on every time I try.

Remote Play wakes up your ps5 from rest mode, but you can't run the game while it's in rest mode

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by Talal86

Remote play requires an internet, but you can use it from anywhere, you don't have to be close to the ps5

and you can't play 2 games (like your example), the ps5 runs the game like it normally does, and you stream it to the Q, so it's basically like a wireless screen with a controller

for example, if you're playing from outside the house and someone turns on the tv, they can watch your game



I don't think the demand is high for something like this, specially because you can already do this with your phone or tablet + a ps5 controller

most people would prefer a dedicated handheld that can run its own game without the ps5 and internet

I understand, thanks Talal.
So it can be accomplished with a smart phone and controller. That's cool, I didn't know that was possible with PS5. i wonder if those larger tablets work too probably, for a larger screen.

[bradnoyes]

I wish this thing was more like a Wii U gamepad since I'm still upset by how criminally underutilized the asynchronous multiplayer functionality was on that thing.

[Talal86]

Originally Posted by bradnoyes

I wish this thing was more like a Wii U gamepad since I'm still upset by how criminally underutilized the asynchronous multiplayer functionality was on that thing.

I agree, I know people are using the wii u gamepad comparison as a negative, but as someone who uses handheld only at home while watching tv, I wish this used the same technology as the wii u gamepad

but that would be very niche, most people would want to use it outside the house

[emailking]

My phone can do a hotspot so I guess I could play my PS5 anywhere with this thing but i think I'd rarely actually want to play it somewhere else so I don't see myself getting this.

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by emailking

My phone can do a hotspot so I guess I could play my PS5 anywhere with this thing but i think I'd rarely actually want to play it somewhere else so I don't see myself getting this.

One would think that a dedicated device, designed just for streaming, would yield better performance without all the overhead that a multipurpose cell phone has. Plus, it's annoying to be gaming on your phone and deal with constant notifications like texts, emails, software updates, etc. That's why I stopped listening to music on my phone and bought a dedicated music player. I got tired of the constant interruptions.

[heyadol]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

One would think that a dedicated device, designed just for streaming, would yield better performance without all the overhead that a multipurpose cell phone has. Plus, it's annoying to be gaming on your phone and deal with constant notifications like texts, emails, software updates, etc. That's why I stopped listening to music on my phone and bought a dedicated music player. I got tired of the constant interruptions.

I'm sure that is the focus here, improving the user experience for those who get frustrated by some of the compromises using multitask/smart devices.

With the limited info available, I think the Wii U comparison would be my most likely use case. For away from home use, if Sony wants me to pack Project Q vs Switch or Steam Deck, both of which can be used in flight or basically anywhere as long as your battery is alive, it is going to take some convincing or a game I want to play that is better on/exclusive to PS5. Although Sony would probably make an excellent device for cloud streaming GFN and Project xCloud, as well as Android games, can't say I'm interested if this turns out to be Sony's slightly better take on the Logitech G Cloud.

[Show spoiler]Not happening, but if Sony announced that we can also play digitally-purchased legacy games directly on the device (no streaming, no PS5 required), that would make it more compelling. Still a dedicated PlayStation device, just not tied to a network.
PS/PSP/PSV all work really well on Arm processors, PS2/PS3 is getting better but I doubt even in this imaginary scenario that Sony would include support for those two, but it would be cooler if they did.
The audience for this backward compatible/PS Vita 2 fever dream has got to be small, and it would be a lot of work to please a small group, who would probably also be critical over missing features (online features no longer supported or something like that). Inevitably someone will counter that we should just "find a way" to play older games through various means, but it can be a real p.i.t.a.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

One would think that a dedicated device, designed just for streaming, would yield better performance without all the overhead that a multipurpose cell phone has. Plus, it's annoying to be gaming on your phone and deal with constant notifications like texts, emails, software updates, etc. That's why I stopped listening to music on my phone and bought a dedicated music player. I got tired of the constant interruptions.

that is not what he said. To go with something discussed earlier he could be in a cab, have this q connected to his phone's wi-fi and the phone send the signal over cell network to play anywhere(aka use phone as hotspot), but playing anywhere is not what he is interested.

I can see why it will be an interesting options for many out there but at this point I am not that interested in it. When I was a kid in high school, not having to fight with my sisters for TV time, being able to play in the bus... something like this would have been awesome. But I am now in my 50's and if I want to play I just sit down in front of my big screen and play.

[Modren]

I wish Sony just put the resources they're spending on this into a Steam Deck competitor instead. I've said it before, but a proper Vita 2 with dedicated games and ports is just not viable in today's landscape - hell, it arguably wasn't viable with the Vita itself, given how it ultimately didn't see much support outside of indie and Japanese devs. But we've seen the PC-based handheld market explode in the wake of the Steam Deck, and Sony & PlayStation have the brand recognition and resources to make some serious waves there.

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by Modren

I wish Sony just put the resources they're spending on this into a Steam Deck competitor instead. I've said it before, but a proper Vita 2 with dedicated games and ports is just not viable in today's landscape - hell, it arguably wasn't viable with the Vita itself, given how it ultimately didn't see much support outside of indie and Japanese devs. But we've seen the PC-based handheld market explode in the wake of the Steam Deck, and Sony & PlayStation have the brand recognition and resources to make some serious waves there.

Feels a bit redundant to me for Sony to put out a Steam Deck competitor when they are already porting games to PC where they will be able to run on a Steam Deck.

[ratandjmt]

I read some articles earlier this morning that it has a short battery life. Its supposedly like 4-6 hours. This thing is dead on arrival