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Old 07-01-2024, 07:29 AM   #1
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What's Plan D?
Plan D is EYEPOP-3D's experiment in taking an alternative approach to producing our conversions, still using state-of-the-art conversion technology and our learning from the last couple of years but with marginally reduced manual input for a more budget conscious product.

At the same time as this, we are aiming to minimise production and distribution costs across the board by using simplified designs, without the bells and whistles of our typical premium releases.

Finally producing and shipping discs on demand assists in cost savings by removing the requirement for stock control & storage.

​This budget conscious approach means we can look to release a wider range of films or shows that may be a little more obscure or not have the highest quality of high definition source material available and all for a more wallet friendly price.

We still plan on producing our more premium EYEPOP-3D releases but as it tends to take about a year start to finish for a single film it's a much bigger task, especially for such a small team.

Look for more details very, very soon...

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Old 07-02-2024, 02:47 PM   #2
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Look for more details very, very soon...
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EyePop's plan to get us more 3D upconverts, but more speed-to-market and a de-emphasis on frills.

Watch this space....


And Plan-D is live now: 4 New 3D Blu-rays available immediately.

Read the post here.
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Old 07-03-2024, 09:28 PM   #4
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Now that it's official I'm happy to post that my 3D conversion for The Brain That Wouldn't Die is available beginning today!

For anyone that hasn't seen it, it's an Oscar caliber film with amazing special effects, award winning writing and top tier acting.

Ok no, it's not any of those things. It's definitely one of those so-bad-its-good type of films and actually has a pretty big fan base. It was also featured on MST3K so you know it's good

I believe Andrew has posted the trailer for folks that wanna see what to expect from the 3D.
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Now that it's official I'm happy to post that my 3D conversion for The Brain That Wouldn't Die is available beginning today!

For anyone that hasn't seen it, it's an Oscar caliber film with amazing special effects, award winning writing and top tier acting.

Ok no, it's not any of those things. It's definitely one of those so-bad-its-good type of films and actually has a pretty big fan base. It was also featured on MST3K so you know it's good

I believe Andrew has posted the trailer for folks that wanna see what to expect from the 3D.
I was frankly surprised to see this title relegated to the Plan D tier, because it’s such a famous cult film, with a pretty big fan base as you said. I would think it would sell pretty well in a deluxe edition. At any rate, I completely understand putting out no-frills releases in order to save time and money and get the releases out faster, but I gotta be honest, I’m still a bit sad that not quite as much TLC will go into them regarding the conversion, the most important part. By all means, lose the slip and other extras if you must, I totally get that, but for me, what sets you guys apart IS that extra TLC. Yes, I realize Plan D conversions will still be much better than one-click auto conversions, but…well, I’m sure you know what I mean. Just a thought. And yes, I’ll be buying THE BRAIN THAT WOULDN’T DIE. And if you ever decide to release an upgraded version, I’ll double-dip.

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I'm having trouble with the website, it seems like it has been set up to NOT allow all four Plan D titles to be purchased together.
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I'm having trouble with the website, it seems like it has been set up to NOT allow all four Plan D titles to be purchased together.
Unfortunately the print on demand supplier doesn't support mixing products from different owners. As such anything produced by Andrew, Alex or myself will reside under our independent storefronts. The complexity of putting everything under one account and tracking and paying out individual artists is just not something we have the bandwidth for. Not saying it can't happen some day but for now this is the best option we have to get these out and make them available for people.

Speaking solely for myself I've chosen to adjust the price for The Brain That Wouldn't Die to help offset the shipping. I don't want to knock other people's work but there are individuals selling fairly poorly converted 3D films on anaglyph DVD that are only 3 or 4 bucks cheaper than my proper 3D Blu-Ray. I hope that despite not having combined storefronts that people will still find this to be a decent value.
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Unfortunately the print on demand supplier doesn't support mixing products from different owners. As such anything produced by Andrew, Alex or myself will reside under our independent storefronts. The complexity of putting everything under one account and tracking and paying out individual artists is just not something we have the bandwidth for. Not saying it can't happen some day but for now this is the best option we have to get these out and make them available for people.

Speaking solely for myself I've chosen to adjust the price for The Brain That Wouldn't Die to help offset the shipping. I don't want to knock other people's work but there are individuals selling fairly poorly converted 3D films on anaglyph DVD that are only 3 or 4 bucks cheaper than my proper 3D Blu-Ray. I hope that despite not having combined storefronts that people will still find this to be a decent value.
Overpriced crap shouldn't really be used as an indicator for what to charge.

I am seeing the same price for The Brain That Wouldn't Die as for The Devil's Hand, should it be less?
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Old 07-04-2024, 10:12 AM   #9
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I was frankly surprised to see this title relegated to the Plan D tier, because it’s such a famous cult film, with a pretty big fan base as you said. I would think it would sell pretty well in a deluxe edition.
This actually was a contender to be one of my Eyepop-3D releases. I started work on a different title which likely won't even hit Kickstarter this year. So best case this might have made it out Q3 or Q4 next year.

Then Andrew came up with Plan D so I decided to take a break from the Eyepop title and spend some time on this because I really wanted to have at least one Plan D title ready and I wanted something that was still pretty special.

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I’m still a bit sad that not quite as much TLC will go into them regarding the conversion, the most important part.
There's still a good bit of TLC in there and I've got the rotoscoped depth maps to prove it

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And yes, I’ll be buying THE BRAIN THAT WOULDN’T DIE. And if you ever decide to release an upgraded version, I’ll double-dip.
Thank you for supporting this conversion and I really hope you enjoy it. I suppose as people start getting theirs in the mail we'll get a new thread going for it
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I was frankly surprised to see this title relegated to the Plan D tier, because it’s such a famous cult film, with a pretty big fan base as you said. I would think it would sell pretty well in a deluxe edition. At any rate, I completely understand putting out no-frills releases in order to save time and money and get the releases out faster, but I gotta be honest, I’m still a bit sad that not quite as much TLC will go into them regarding the conversion, the most important part. By all means, lose the slip and other extras if you must, I totally get that, but for me, what sets you guys apart IS that extra TLC. Yes, I realize Plan D conversions will still be much better than one-click auto conversions, but…well, I’m sure you know what I mean. Just a thought. And yes, I’ll be buying THE BRAIN THAT WOULDN’T DIE. And if you ever decide to release an upgraded version, I’ll double-dip.
I think you'll love the quality here - it's right up there in my book. I think with our experience and techniques we've developed over the last couple of years you'll probably find that Plan-D titles are generally going to be pretty close to EYEPOP conversions but without the hoohah surrounding them.

Of course, like on the free disc and the experimental film compilation when you are dealing with films that are 100+ years old it's going to show signs of it's age.

I can guarantee you though none of us would share these if we weren't 100% proud on them. If I wouldn't personally buy it (and enjoy it) then I wouldn't put it out. Although I do appreciate I'm perhaps a bit unusual in my taste!
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Wow! They all look like so much fun. Though I must admit watching the Curiosities trailer made me feel like I was watching the video from The Ring.
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Alex, Andrew, Phil, I've just placed my order for all (though not the free extra since I already have that Stooges short in 3D via the old Legend disc ).

Again, I'm thrilled that you're focused on accelerated production here; the more (and the quicker) the merrier.

And I'm also thrilled to see the extras disc includes trailers for Frankenstein's Daughter and (especially) Phantom Planet, which I'm eager to see in a Real 3D upconvert -- and I'm hoping you get your hands on as many other PD sci-fi's as you can; so many of these in particular are screaming for 3D treatment and I'm confident they'll sell well.

As for quality concerns, I direct any skeptics to the SBS trailers the EyePop team has posted.

Keep 'em comin', gents!

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Just ordered all 4. Maybe a new thread should be started for these?
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Ordered The Devil’s Hand and The Brain That Wouldn’t Die. Have previously seen both and love these types of old horror.
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All four ordered. Very much looking forward to viewing.
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Unfortunately the print on demand supplier doesn't support mixing products from different owners. As such anything produced by Andrew, Alex or myself will reside under our independent storefronts. The complexity of putting everything under one account and tracking and paying out individual artists is just not something we have the bandwidth for. Not saying it can't happen some day but for now this is the best option we have to get these out and make them available for people.

Speaking solely for myself I've chosen to adjust the price for The Brain That Wouldn't Die to help offset the shipping. I don't want to knock other people's work but there are individuals selling fairly poorly converted 3D films on anaglyph DVD that are only 3 or 4 bucks cheaper than my proper 3D Blu-Ray. I hope that despite not having combined storefronts that people will still find this to be a decent value.
The 3D trailers look better than I was expecting for budget products, in terms of the quality of the picture. I was expecting blurry, muddy low res products but these looked sharp with good contrast, which is good to see.

For the 3D, do you have the 3D conversion computer software do most of the work in these situations, no longer manually working on each budget film?


Good presentation in that video intro of the films also, introducing them, the plan, each trailer and so on.
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The 3D trailers look better than I was expecting for budget products, in terms of the quality of the picture. I was expecting blurry, muddy low res products but these looked sharp with good contrast, which is good to see.

For the 3D, do you have the 3D conversion computer software do most of the work in these situations, no longer manually working on each budget film?

PLAN-D LAUNCH - 2D to 3D Budget Label releases 3D Blu-ray launch titles - RED BLUE ANAGLYPH - YouTube

Good presentation in that video intro of the films also, introducing them, the plan, each trailer and so on.
It's difficult to explain how much work the computer does - I mean we could use the computer and with very little manual effort produce a "one-click" conversion... but it wouldn't really be of a quality that I think is required for a product that will be sold.

Firstly it would have flaws where the depth analysis tools miss items or make errors in depth, so you get background objects stuck to foreground objects etc. Or objects flickering in and out of 3d depth. That doesn't look great.

Next if it was a "one-click" product it would be the same depth throughout - but by setting the 3D on a shot by shot basis we can maximise the 3d experience and even for the Plan-D discs this is our general approach.

So the manual effort is fixing all the flaws, setting the 3d shot by shot and then thorough testing across various screen sizes to make sure it looks good.

I'm sure the day will come software can do a professional level one-click conversion but it's not quite there yet.
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It's difficult to explain how much work the computer does - I mean we could use the computer and with very little manual effort produce a "one-click" conversion... but it wouldn't really be of a quality that I think is required for a product that will be sold.

Firstly it would have flaws where the depth analysis tools miss items or make errors in depth, so you get background objects stuck to foreground objects etc. Or objects flickering in and out of 3d depth. That doesn't look great.

Next if it was a "one-click" product it would be the same depth throughout - but by setting the 3D on a shot by shot basis we can maximise the 3d experience and even for the Plan-D discs this is our general approach.

So the manual effort is fixing all the flaws, setting the 3d shot by shot and then thorough testing across various screen sizes to make sure it looks good.

I'm sure the day will come software can do a professional level one-click conversion but it's not quite there yet.
Cool, thank you for those details. So it definitely takes more than one click and it's done, but takes time to sort out major conversion error issues when possible.
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Speaking for myself, lots of manual work (Andrew does too, but I don't want to speak for others). But think a couple of weeks vs a couple of months. If we just pressed "go" and put the resultant output on disc we'd be individually spitting out 2-4 of these a week. Honestly the bottleneck would probably be setting up the 3D blu-ray builds.

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Good presentation in that video intro of the films also, introducing them, the plan, each trailer and so on.
Andrew is ridiculously good at putting these sorts of things together. This video, all the kickstarter videos, the incredible artwork, slipcovers, blu-ray menus, etc... all 100% Andrew. He's really amazing and none of this would be a thing if he hadn't literally willed these projects into existence.
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