New 4K Blu-ray players

[kingreed]

I wonder why hasn’t Amazon or Walmart come out with their own 4K blu ray player yet I mean they both came out with their own streaming devices? It just seems odd that both of them haven’t came out yet with one of them?

[Cortiz]

Physical media is a niche market.

[dcx4610]

Niche market, expensive to make and parts that aren't easily sourced. Streaming boxes can be made by anyone for cheap and without moving parts.

Keep in mind, several manufacturers have pulled out of the physical market. There isn't really any money to be made outside of 1-2 companies making them. Amazon wants you subscribed to Prime and watching digital content.

I could potentially see Walmart making an ONN 4K player one day but DVD is still their biggest business.

[petermaverick]

Originally Posted by dcx4610

Niche market, expensive to make and parts that aren't easily sourced. Streaming boxes can be made by anyone for cheap and without moving parts.

Keep in mind, several manufacturers have pulled out of the physical market. There isn't really any money to be made outside of 1-2 companies making them. Amazon wants you subscribed to Prime and watching digital content.

I could potentially see Walmart making an ONN 4K player one day but DVD is still their biggest business.

I'm simply interested if DVD is still the dog's 'cough', then why are people buying 4K OLED TVs? I hope it is not because they believe that upscaled is the real deal

[dcx4610]

Originally Posted by petermaverick

I'm simply interested if DVD is still the dog's 'cough', then why are people buying 4K OLED TVs? I hope it is not because they believe that upscaled is the real deal

It's just a number to them. Most people have zero idea what 4K means or if the content they are watching is 4K.

I take my dad as a perfect example. He just bought a new Samsung OLED. He watches movies off a Fire Stick and/or his DVD player...

It's hard to even find a 1080p TV nowadays unless it's a small one. 4K is kind of the default whether you are watching in native 4K or not.

[petermaverick]

Many thanks for your reply. I'm not against you or your dad, please don't think that. Isn't watching movies off a Fire Stick and/or a DVD player on a new Samsung OLED TV money wasting? Upscaling is just a polite term for fakery. Possibly someone might introduce your dad to Blu-ray. Have a good day now

[kingreed]

I brought this up on new 4K blu ray players because the older ones seem to have certain issues with some 4K titles. It would be nice to see newer models from other companies like Amazon or Walmart. Now that Sony and Panasonic are the only ones making them. However I don't expect to see new models or new 4K blu ray players from them because the market isn't good right now.

[danny24]

At least consumers have come a long way now to know what those black bars are there for now. Even if some of them have no idea that a 4K TV needs native 4K content or a good 1080p upscaling 4k player to show it's true beauty. People are fine with low quality streaming and DVD and hey if it saves them money can't blame them. You can find lots of DVD's on facebook marketplace and thrift stores pretty cheap.

Originally Posted by dcx4610

I could potentially see Walmart making an ONN 4K player one day but DVD is still their biggest business.

If Sony and Panasonic stop making 4K players and they have no competition than I could see that happening. Walmart sells a ton of DVD's still.

[alchav21]

You guys dream on no company is going to make new Bly-ray Players, I think Panasonic and Sony are going to drop out soon!

[Afriendofours]

Originally Posted by alchav21

You guys dream on no company is going to make new Bly-ray Players, I think Panasonic and Sony are going to drop out soon!

Speaking of Dream On (1990-1996), is it ever going to get a bluray release or at the very least added to Max?

[albertbj]

Originally Posted by Afriendofours

Speaking of Dream On (1990-1996), is it ever going to get a bluray release or at the very least added to Max?

It's apparently on the Roku Channel. Don't know if it's in HD.

[Naiera]

Originally Posted by alchav21

... I think Panasonic and Sony are going to drop out soon!

I don't.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Naiera

I don't.

Alchav is a troll, don’t take any notice.

[Deadend45]

Originally Posted by alchav21

You guys dream on no company is going to make new Bly-ray Players, I think Panasonic and Sony are going to drop out soon!

I have seen that posted on this site for 10 years.

Originally Posted by Cortiz

Physical media is a niche market.

And always was.

[Youreallyareagerbil]

Originally Posted by Deadend45

I have seen that posted on this site for 10 years.

The end has been predicted as coming soon for years but still hasn’t come true. I do think there’s enough evidence to suggest new players by Sony and Panasonic won’t be manufactured in another 10 years though, besides maybe the PS6 if it has a disc drive option, and there’s plenty comments online from people now that think it won’t.

[kingreed]

It does make you wonder if both Samsung and LG will ever jump back into the 4K blu ray player market again. It seems that the 4K blu ray player market is shrinking. With streaming services not streaming as much content lately because of rising costs to stream it does make you wonder if more manufacturers like LG and Samsung will ever develop new 4K blu ray players again.

[Naiera]

Originally Posted by Deadend45

And always was.

Physical media was not always a niche. DVD was huge.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Naiera

Physical media was not always a niche. DVD was huge.

Yep, mainstream.

[dcx4610]

Originally Posted by Naiera

Physical media was not always a niche. DVD was huge.

DVD was an anomaly. Physical media was still niche. DVD just happened to be right place right time. It came out when there was no streaming. You couldn't really buy VHS tapes outside of mail order catalogs, special one-offs sold in stores or buying a pre-owned tape at a rental store.

When DVD came out, that changed. DVDs were cheap to manufacture and you could actually start buying them at the store. There was no competition. You could rent DVD but it was nearly as cheap just to buy it. So that's what people did.

People didn't suddenly become physical media collectors. It was just the cheapest and most convenient option at the time. I compare it to the Nintendo Wii. Nintendo's stated goal with the Wii was to turn non-gamers into gamers. Get grandparents and people who have never touched a game into games. They succeeded...or they thought they did. The Wii sold 101 million systems which is roughly 75% MORE than most consoles sold. Nintendo thought that they had turned 75 million new people into gamers. They didn't.

Their next system sold 13 million. They didn't make new gamers. People just bought a Wii because it was the hot new toy and they wanted to try bowling. They didn't buy the Wii U and they didn't buy a PS4. Their Wii just collected dust and they moved on to the next big fad. That's DVD to me.

They bought DVDs because it was just how you consumed movies at the time. Now that streaming is the cheapest, easiest and most mainstream way to consume movies, that's how they do it.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Deadend45

I have seen that posted on this site for 10 years.



And always was.

Alchav is looking forward to the day disc dies. He preached that digital HD was going to become the mainstream choice, and all these years later, that format is flatlining, so he changed the goalposts to subscription streaming, where of course movies are only a part of a larger offering.