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Old 03-26-2008, 01:35 PM   #1
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Hi,

I bet I'm in a minority with this notion but... I hate itunes, ipods, and iphone.

I'm in the process of getting my wife an ipod for her b-day because that's what she wants. So... I'm importing all our CD's and reading about the various versions of ipod and iphone.

And.. it's all pissing my off. Sorry to vent but I hate just about all of the icrap.

Why settle for high quality music reproduction from a CD when you can have a Craptastic highly compressed MP3 that you can listen to on your phone? Who needs HD when you plan to watch "widescreen" movies on a 3" LCD screen?

Seems all of it places connivence first and quality last. I love my macbook but I'm beginning to hate Apple for the effect the icrap is having on entertainment.

Either way... most people are going to be happy with ringtone quality audio and youtube quality video so I think the battle is lost before it begins. I just regret the direction it's going.

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Old 03-26-2008, 01:39 PM   #2
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Don't think you're so alone on this one. I hate all the iCrap too...
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:43 PM   #3
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I found an iPod in the pocket of the seat in-front of me on an airplane, and went through it, and there was no contact info I could find (and the language was set to Chinese too.....) so either way, I kept the thing..... deleted off the previous owners music, and have since loaded a bunch of live shows on it........ and I never use the thing.... I just don't get it.... even though I don't have the best sound quality stuff on it (Live concert downloads) I just don't know when I'd ever listen to it...... I listen to Sirius while at work, and listen to SACDs and CDs at home.

My brother has an iPhone, and I always give him a hard time about it because it looks silly when he takes it out of his pocket, and it seems like the thing is designed to be a freakin' search and rescue light when taken out in a dark bar etc...... I take my crappy free-phone (with no camera, it doesn't "flip" etc...) and say.... "can your iPhone do this??" and then I just drop it on the floor........ It's got scratches, and cracks, etc.... but that thing has lasted 2 years or so, and I can still make/receive calls.... does what I need it to do. Work gave me a blackberry that's still in one of my desk drawers somewhere!

Also, my phone has been set to "Vibrate" for the past two years.... I can "hear" it vibrating on the couch, let-alone the table, from across the room.... no need for the Skee-Low ring-tone!

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Old 03-26-2008, 01:56 PM   #4
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Thank You.

I'm sorry to have vented.

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Old 03-26-2008, 02:20 PM   #5
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You can import CD's with Apple's lossless codec, or just rip them at 320 AAC or mp3 . . . so you're not forced to use low quality crap. Just change a couple settings . . . not that big of a deal.

I'm with you people's acceptance of diminished quality, though. I've had an iPod for three years and just got an iPhone at the beginning of the the year and have purchased maybe two songs from iTunes, ever. Never watched a movie or a TV show on either device. The iPhone, IMO after working in the wireless industry for a bit and being a bit of a phone geek, is the best data phone available. If you're into that kind of thing.

At the same time though, I doubt the iPhone or iPod is the primary viewing source of movies for anyone. I think most people use them just to kill time.

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Old 03-26-2008, 02:24 PM   #6
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You can import CD's with Apple's lossless codec, or just rip them at 320 AAC or mp3 . . . so you're not forced to use low quality crap. Just change a couple settings . . . not that big of a deal.
O.K. I guess the other thing I don't like about iPods, has to do with the fact that I'm technologically slooooooooowwwwww...... I come from simple-times........ haha!
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Old 03-26-2008, 02:39 PM   #7
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ipods are cool, and ifyou dont like them its because you dont like the somewhat not friendly user interface... understandable... but is that apples problem? haha yea.

My only complain is how they are not user friendly to pc owners and there is not 64bit vista patch

You can complain about compressed music but when its coming from headphones and blaring in your ear its hard to tell the difference, my ears have years of trained experience as I used to be a recording engineer and that complaint is just lame.

Why? Here's why ... if your saying its better in your car.. not vaild, at your home, probably not valid.

The only thing that makes it valid is if you listen to your music on STUDIO REFERENCE MONITORS... that is what music is mixed by before mastered. Its all based on high end studio ref. monitors... listening to music on anything else is already sub-par.

So complain its not user friendly... or that you dont understand it or are technically limited, but nothing else.
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Old 03-26-2008, 02:24 PM   #8
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I adore my iphone. When I'm out and about in the summer and at various events where I'm doing a lot of walking (I walk a minimum of 10 miles a day), having a nice chunk of music to listen to is a godsend. Considering that I'm out and about I'm not looking for high quality music reproduction. When I want that, I settle into a proper place for it. Not down the bike trail or walking around a building while waiting for someone.

Having an iphone/ipod doesn't mean you don't care about quality.
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Old 03-26-2008, 02:25 PM   #9
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If you use some decent earbuds the quality is amazing. I have a pair of Shures and it was the best 80$ i've ever spent.

And it is pretty convient to watch video on. Just because it isn't HD doesn't mean it looks bad.
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Old 03-26-2008, 02:33 PM   #10
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anything with an "i" in front of it gets a BOOO from me..
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Old 03-26-2008, 02:41 PM   #11
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After numurous smartphones (blackberries, palms etc) no phone can do it better than the iphone.. just the facts, it is what it is. If it didn't Id say so I could care less. People don't dislike i products.. people dislike popularity and conformity ala "i" products.

Another reason why some dislike some apple products is well because they can't afford them, I've seen this countless times first hand. Apple products aren't the cheapest things compared to their competitors.

I had a friend who dissed the iphone to no end .. um.. until he got one for x-mas.. then it was God's gift to earth.... HMMMMMMMM... LMAO!

BTW: The iPhone has the best resolution and screen out of any phone out.. period! I didn't purchase the iphone to watch my blu-ray movies.. or to hear my sacd's dvd-a or truehd.. at the end of the day its just a phone..

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Old 03-27-2008, 07:37 PM   #12
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After numurous smartphones (blackberries, palms etc) no phone can do it better than the iphone.. just the facts, it is what it is. If it didn't Id say so I could care less. People don't dislike i products.. people dislike popularity and conformity ala "i" products.

Another reason why some dislike some apple products is well because they can't afford them, I've seen this countless times first hand. Apple products aren't the cheapest things compared to their competitors.

I had a friend who dissed the iphone to no end .. um.. until he got one for x-mas.. then it was God's gift to earth.... HMMMMMMMM... LMAO!

BTW: The iPhone has the best resolution and screen out of any phone out.. period! I didn't purchase the iphone to watch my blu-ray movies.. or to hear my sacd's dvd-a or truehd.. at the end of the day its just a phone..
I agree the iproducts are vastly overpriced, and that's part of the reason why I won't have anything to do with them. I was about to buy a 60GB iPod at one point - I was waiting for the price to drop. But instead, they discontinued it in favor of making an 80GB at the same price. It's a bloody mp3 player... why does it need to cost $400?!?

iPhone. Very tech-savvy. Very hyped up by the media. Possibly the most expensive phone on the market? Very much not something I need. I had a cell phone when I was 20 and in university. By the time I was 22 I cancelled my service. 5 years later, I still have not repurchased a cell phone.

iTunes software. I'm not a fan of downloadable media period. CDs and Blu-ray all the way. I also don't believe my large mp3 collection requires a complex front-end management system, when my music is organized in a well-laid out directory tree. The fact that I've stripped out the ID3 tags to make sorting them in Winamp easier doesn't help. I also wasn't impressed how iTunes won't recognize many of my ripped mp3s.

iPhoto software, or whatever it's called. I have about 400 pictures from a trip to Japan I took with a friend's camera. Following the trip, I was given CDs made from the iPhoto software with the pictures on them. To my horror, the files were cryptically organized on the cd, thanks to the features of iPhoto software which were used to write the cds. I would have much preferred the .jpegs dumped in a single folder, or perhaps organized by date.

iMacs... well, when they can run my decade-sized collection of windows-compatible software and when the price of the Macbooks drop to sane levels I'll perhaps consider one of these. For now, I prefer my economically-built PC that runs on hand-chosen parts and Windows XP.
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Ditto from me, and that includes all of the knockoffs out there using the same little "i" to describe stuff or another vowel of their choosing.
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Ditto from me, and that includes all of the knockoffs out there using the same little "i" to describe stuff or another vowel of their choosing.
A graphic designer that doesn't like "i" products?
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Old 03-27-2008, 06:43 AM   #15
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I'm not too crazy about the Ipod thing either, but moreso because I can care less about the mp3 thing. However, after I picked up an Ipod for my wife, I admit as a gadget the darned things are addicting and I see why they're so popular. If I could get over music compression I'd have one for sure.
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If I could get over music compression I'd have one for sure.
That's why they have Apple Lossless.
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Old 03-27-2008, 07:32 PM   #17
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That's why they have Apple Lossless.
Yeah, I'm aware of the lossless ALE and ALAC codecs, and I actually have a few tunes encoded in FLAC. But I think ultimately I'm not interested enough to wanna have to rip my CDs or download music, and then have to navigate directories (I'm anal) and make playlists. Other than web browsing and email, I tend to stay away from my computer when I get home since I sit in front of one looking at code 8-9 hours a day, so when I get home all I want to do is pop a cd in and let it play.
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I have never used any of them and to old to start lol
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