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Old 12-29-2006, 04:05 AM   #1
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Default amount of blu ray movies and hd dvd movie

i see a lot more addverstising for hd dvd movies and a lot of diffrent movies is this becuase of advertising or are the few studeos that suport hd dvd are pumping out more movies then blu ray suporters
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Old 12-29-2006, 06:10 AM   #2
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Jorg,
I will give you the benifit of doubt. This site http://www.blu-raydisc.com/ is the offical Blu Ray site. It has a list of members to blu ray etc.
To answer your question
HD-DVD was released about 2 months before Blu Ray. Although 2 months is not a long time in the release of the formats it is. Blu Ray has been released for about 7 months. There are about 10 more titles released on HD-DVD. This will quickly change. Just look at who is doing what.
Universal will only release on HD-DVD
Warner release on both HD-DVD and Blu Ray so far have released far more on HD-DVD but announced they intend to catch up with the blu ray releases early next year
Paramount release on both HD-DVD and Blu Ray
MGM only release on Blu Ray
Fox only release on Blu Ray
Disney only release on Blu Ray
Columbia Tristar only release on Blu Ray
Sony Pictures only release on Blu Ray
and many others only release on Blu Ray
So by this time next year I would be suprised if the ratio is not 10:1 (BD:HD-DVD) for titles.
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:24 AM   #3
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I went into Fry's Electronics the day after Christmas & was looking over the HD-DVD titles & the Blu-Ray titles. The HD-DVD titles looked really picked over & alot of titles was missing.

The Blu-Ray titles was in perfect order & nothing looked like it was missing. The supervisor of the movie department was doing a count of the Blu-Ray movies & turned to one of his workers & said I wonder when any of these Blu-Ray movies will sell.

I talked to him for a few minutes & he told me that when a HD-DVD big title comes out it sells out within a day but the Blu-Ray movies just aren't moving.

I went to Best Buy & the same thing was told to me. Before you count me in as a HD-DVD fanboy I have both formats. I have a Toshiba HD-DVD player & a Panasonic Blu-Ray player so I can get the most movies in HD.

But until Blu-Ray comes down in price on movies & players the average consumer will choose the lower price format. The picture quality on Blu-Ray thankfully is getting closer to HD-DVD. I love the uncompressed sound on Blu-Ray but it's not a night & day difference from Dolby True HD on HD-DVD.

The bottom line is it doesn't matter how many studios you have or how many movies you have the consumer is going to choose what they can afford. Until Blu-Ray stops sticking it to customers & starts delivering quality product that customers can afford HD-DVD will always be a serious competitor for customers.

If a movie is released in both formats I will read the reviews 1st but most of the time I will buy the HD-DVD version because on my Pioneer Elite Pro-730HDI setup the picture quality on HD-DVD normally looks better & it's anywhere from $5 to $10 cheaper a movie.

If it's not available on HD-DVD I'll look for it somewhere on sale on Blu-Ray. And that's what I've been finding in the retail & online stores. I'm not for one format over another just make them equal & let the public decide. If I was going for what I find in retail stores & online stores I wouldn't call it even because Blu-Ray will have more titles available in a month. No one seems to be buying them from the supervisors I've been talking to & what I've been seeing.

And in case you're wondering I recently bought 17 HD-DVD titles & 15 Blu-Ray titles that haven't been released on HD-DVD so I'm not partial.

It's just the average consumer is cost conscience & until Blu-Ray prices drop it's going to be that way no matter how many studios you have & how many movies you have.
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Old 12-29-2006, 11:14 AM   #4
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Well my in stores experience has been the opposite of yours, and I don't find the prices of Blu-rays where I buy them to be consistently $10 over HD DVD, but just about the same. And how does a VC-1 file on a Warner Blu-ray look worse than a VC-1 file on a Warner HD DVD? They should look the same: Either same sucky or same outstanding.
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Old 12-31-2006, 06:48 PM   #5
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Well my in stores experience has been the opposite of yours, and I don't find the prices of Blu-rays where I buy them to be consistently $10 over HD DVD, but just about the same. And how does a VC-1 file on a Warner Blu-ray look worse than a VC-1 file on a Warner HD DVD? They should look the same: Either same sucky or same outstanding.
Same here , I go often to the local Futureshop and although I don't see many hidef movies being sold , it looks like more bd's are being sold..
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I'm seeing more people in the HD DVD section but Blu Ray interest is growing now that Playstation is out.

I was this close to buying a HD DVD player but now with my PS3 I'm sort of in the Blu Ray camp by default.
Otherwise I would have bought the Toshiba HD DVD player since it seems like HD has the better movies. But with getting Blu Ray for free in my PS3 I'm not really complaining.
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Old 12-29-2006, 12:05 PM   #7
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The picture quality on Blu-Ray thankfully is getting closer to HD-DVD. I love the uncompressed sound on Blu-Ray but it's not a night & day difference from Dolby True HD on HD-DVD.
The first part of your statement is incorrect; the PQ on Blu-ray is not getting closer, it is identical and has been for months.
The lossless PCM is not night & day difference you are correct, but there is a difference. Unfortunately there are only 9 HD DVD titles to choose from with TrueHD tracks on them, whereas there are close to 100% of titles from Blu-ray exclusive studios with lossless PCM or lossless DTS-HD Master Audio on them.
The audio on Blu-ray is stomping HD DVD to the ground.
As for your statement about the selection of titles and whether or not they are moving, I completely disagree. My local store seem to be the opposite from yours; not a staggering difference, but the titles on both formats are moving and if anything there are more HD DVD titles stocked up. There were a number of titles I was looking for on Boxing Day here in Canada, like X3 and Enemy of the State, that were long since sold out.
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Old 12-29-2006, 12:32 PM   #8
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Jorg,
I will give you the benifit of doubt. This site http://www.blu-raydisc.com/ is the offical Blu Ray site. It has a list of members to blu ray etc.
To answer your question
HD-DVD was released about 2 months before Blu Ray. Although 2 months is not a long time in the release of the formats it is. Blu Ray has been released for about 7 months. There are about 10 more titles released on HD-DVD. This will quickly change. Just look at who is doing what.
Universal will only release on HD-DVD
Warner release on both HD-DVD and Blu Ray so far have released far more on HD-DVD but announced they intend to catch up with the blu ray releases early next year
Paramount release on both HD-DVD and Blu Ray
MGM only release on Blu Ray
Fox only release on Blu Ray
Disney only release on Blu Ray
Columbia Tristar only release on Blu Ray
Sony Pictures only release on Blu Ray

and many others only release on Blu Ray
So by this time next year I would be suprised if the ratio is not 10:1 (BD:HD-DVD) for titles.
That is rather misleading, they are the same company as is MGM, though Fox is doing their distribution.
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Sony Pictures and Columbia Tristar have seperate titles and operate as different entites. MGM is unrelated to both. Sony doesn't (or at least didn't own them) working on the common understanding that ownership is a controlling interest, or else I could own all the CE companies on the share market (just buy one share in each). Yes Sony does have interests but not controlling interests. Note I didn't include all the Disney companies as from what I'm led to believe they operate as one company although are happy to give the impression that they are independant, to keep that Disney family perception.
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Old 12-29-2006, 12:57 PM   #10
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Sony Pictures and Columbia Tristar have seperate titles and operate as different entites. MGM is unrelated to both. Sony doesn't (or at least didn't own them) working on the common understanding that ownership is a controlling interest, or else I could own all the CE companies on the share market (just buy one share in each). Yes Sony does have interests but not controlling interests. Note I didn't include all the Disney companies as from what I'm led to believe they operate as one company although are happy to give the impression that they are independant, to keep that Disney family perception.
That is fair, but Colombia/Tristar is a wholly owned subsidiary of Sony in the same way that BVHE is a wholly owned subsidiary of Disney.

Also, while MGM is not in that category; Providence nominated Sony to have direct control over their stake in MGM giving them around 49% control of the organisation with a bunch of other companies with the remaining 51%. While Kirk Kerkorian does not have a stake in the company any more his influence within the company cannot be underestimated either, he is very friendly with Sony - further increasing their say in what happens.

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Old 12-29-2006, 01:26 PM   #11
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Thats weird, everytime i go to a best buy or frys, the BD movie section looks ransacked. The HD-DVDs are fully in stock and collecting dust? Where do you live?
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