A Clockwork Orange! (HD DVD was better)?????? - Blu-ray Forum

rubberghost · 06-23-2008, 12:38 AM

just popped this in and i'm extremely disappointed! it almost looks like SD. i have this on HD DVD, and it's 10 times better. i think i'm a little pissed. what do you guys think of this BD?

NEVER MIND. I'LL BUY ANOTHER ONE.

M · 06-23-2008, 12:40 AM

That's a shame to hear, this is a classic movie and I would have deffinately put this in my collection at some stage.

Scooby Blu · 06-23-2008, 12:42 AM

What ? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ! Say it can't be so man ! I have watched this movie for years on VHS and DVD and to hear this.......damn !

thebluemax · 06-23-2008, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Scooby Blu

What ? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ! Say it can't be so man ! I have watched this movie for years on VHS and DVD and to hear this.......damn !

Don't believe everything you read

And the Hd-DUD and BD look the same which is not first rate.

Scooby Blu · 06-23-2008, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by thebluemax

Don't believe everything you read

And the Hd-DUD and BD look the same which is not first rate.

Which brings a slight hope that a double dip will be on the horizion sometime soon ! Read ? This is skimming, not reading. Reading occurs when no one is around. Alone, with just enough light, to know the story. I guess, I just have high hopes for a blu ray movie. In time, I "might" be right ? But if not; I will still have a GREAT time !

BStecke · 06-23-2008, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Scooby Blu

Which brings a slight hope that a double dip will be on the horizion sometime soon ! Read ? This is skimming, not reading. Reading occurs when no one is around. Alone, with just enough light, to know the story. I guess, I just have high hopes for a blu ray movie. In time, I "might" be right ? But if not; I will still have a GREAT time !

Are you drunk?

dgator783 · 06-23-2008, 12:41 AM

its pretty damn good in my opinion.....esp considering its from the early 70s....its not the best compared to others, but a fine transfer

heres the video review:

Clockwork Orange is going to always be a controversial film in high definition circles for its very specific and rough visual style. The film came about at a time when Kubrick had started experimenting with higher speed film stock as well as custom lenses and cameras. His fascination for filming in available light also began at this time. Combining all of these methods doesn’t exactly make for the smoothest and “prettiest” visual quality and that is definitely reflected in this Blu-ray presentation. The film is framed at 1.66:1, so you will experience black bars on the sides of your high definition image. This is intentional, so please don’t adjust your set. I’ve seen complaints that this title doesn’t offer an appreciable upgrade from the standard DVD versions that have been presented over the years. This couldn’t be further from the truth. The film’s vivid and stark colors are vastly improved over previous DVD versions and are now more nicely saturated and natural. The slow-motion high-speed photography that appears in several scenes is also much improved with an increase in clarity and stability. There is quite a lot of grain in the film, which is to be expected given the filming methods employed in A Clockwork Orange. I found that overall detail is improved with an emphasis on revealing more of the film’s natural grain structure. A film like A Clockwork Orange isn’t supposed to look like 2001. This is a work of art and the Blu-ray version captures it beautifully. Unfortunately, there are a few areas of concern in this transfer. I noticed several bits of what appeared to be macroblocking during the film. Banding also reared its ugly head on a few occasions as well. There's really no excuse for allowing these kinds of issues to crop up on a film of this level of importance. Perhaps a little more bandwidth could have been spared for the film to prevent these issues from cropping up. Regardless, this is still a nice transfer with plenty of merit.

dont listen to the fud from the op....

ClaytonMG · 06-23-2008, 12:42 AM

Considering that it's the EXACT SAME transfer and encode... I am going to assume you might be a little wrong...

rubberghost · 06-23-2008, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

Considering that it's the EXACT SAME transfer and encode... I am going to assume you might be a little wrong...

NO. i wish i was. really. i don't just complain for no reason. i know some people do, but not me.

rubberghost · 06-23-2008, 12:47 AM

maybe there's something wrong with my disc.

rubberghost · 06-23-2008, 12:49 AM

i've seen this on VHS, DVD, HD DVD, and BD. yeh yeh same encode, ok.

OokieSpookie · 06-23-2008, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rubberghost

maybe there's something wrong with my disc.

Something wrong with something is a safe bet...

CheapChildren · 06-23-2008, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

Considering that it's the EXACT SAME transfer and encode... I am going to assume you might be a little wrong...

+1

rubberghost · 06-23-2008, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dgator783

its pretty damn good in my opinion.....esp considering its from the early 70s....its not the best compared to others, but a fine transfer

i'm all for blu-ray, believe me. but if you like the BD, you should see the HD DVD. it doesn't even compare, i'm sad to say.

M · 06-23-2008, 12:45 AM

I'm getting the idea that maybe some settings are adjusted wrongly or something is up, if they are the exact same encode, then nothing should be different as far as the movie is concerned.

Xorp · 06-23-2008, 12:47 AM

rubberghost, it's absolutely amazing how wrong you are. Both the Blu-ray and HD DVD releases have the exact same video encodes. That's how Warner does their discs. Stop talking before you say something else as stupid.

ClaytonMG · 06-23-2008, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rubberghost

i'm all for blu-ray, believe me. but if you like the BD, you should see the HD DVD. it doesn't even compare, i'm sad to say.

Again... WB ports their encodes from HD DVD... IT'S THE EXACT SAME ENCODE.

DetroitSportsFan · 06-23-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

Again... WB ports their encodes from HD DVD... IT'S THE EXACT SAME ENCODE.

Yeah, they can't be much different. Something is wrong somewhere.

Beta Man · 06-23-2008, 05:09 PM

I have seen both the HD DVD and the Blu Ray, and they both look pretty much the same, and they both are LEAPS ABOVE the Standard DVD version I have (From the Kubrick Collection)

rubberghost · 06-23-2008, 01:49 AM

i'm ordering a new disc monday.

06-23-2008, 12:38 AM	#1
rubberghost Expert Member Member since:May 2008 Location:the sub-matrix Blu-ray reviews:4	A Clockwork Orange! (problem with my disc)?????? just popped this in and i'm extremely disappointed! it almost looks like SD. i have this on HD DVD, and it's 10 times better. i think i'm a little pissed. what do you guys think of this BD? NEVER MIND. I'LL BUY ANOTHER ONE. Last edited by rubberghost; 06-26-2008 at 05:52 PM.

06-23-2008, 12:41 AM	#7
dgator783 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Lakeland,FL 4K collection:377 Blu-ray collection:1521 Blu-ray reviews:11 Trading Score:14	its pretty damn good in my opinion.....esp considering its from the early 70s....its not the best compared to others, but a fine transfer heres the video review: Clockwork Orange is going to always be a controversial film in high definition circles for its very specific and rough visual style. The film came about at a time when Kubrick had started experimenting with higher speed film stock as well as custom lenses and cameras. His fascination for filming in available light also began at this time. Combining all of these methods doesn’t exactly make for the smoothest and “prettiest” visual quality and that is definitely reflected in this Blu-ray presentation. The film is framed at 1.66:1, so you will experience black bars on the sides of your high definition image. This is intentional, so please don’t adjust your set. I’ve seen complaints that this title doesn’t offer an appreciable upgrade from the standard DVD versions that have been presented over the years. This couldn’t be further from the truth. The film’s vivid and stark colors are vastly improved over previous DVD versions and are now more nicely saturated and natural. The slow-motion high-speed photography that appears in several scenes is also much improved with an increase in clarity and stability. There is quite a lot of grain in the film, which is to be expected given the filming methods employed in A Clockwork Orange. I found that overall detail is improved with an emphasis on revealing more of the film’s natural grain structure. A film like A Clockwork Orange isn’t supposed to look like 2001. This is a work of art and the Blu-ray version captures it beautifully. Unfortunately, there are a few areas of concern in this transfer. I noticed several bits of what appeared to be macroblocking during the film. Banding also reared its ugly head on a few occasions as well. There's really no excuse for allowing these kinds of issues to crop up on a film of this level of importance. Perhaps a little more bandwidth could have been spared for the film to prevent these issues from cropping up. Regardless, this is still a nice transfer with plenty of merit. dont listen to the fud from the op.... Last edited by dgator783; 06-23-2008 at 12:44 AM.

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06-23-2008, 12:40 AM	#2
M Special Member Member since:May 2008 Trading Score:1	That's a shame to hear, this is a classic movie and I would have deffinately put this in my collection at some stage.

06-23-2008, 12:42 AM	#3
Scooby Blu Power Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Apr 2008 Home Theater Gallery:7	What ? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ! Say it can't be so man ! I have watched this movie for years on VHS and DVD and to hear this.......damn !

06-23-2008, 12:42 AM	#8
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:833 Blu-ray collection:2370 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Considering that it's the EXACT SAME transfer and encode... I am going to assume you might be a little wrong...

06-23-2008, 12:47 AM	#10
rubberghost Expert Member Member since:May 2008 Location:the sub-matrix Blu-ray reviews:4	maybe there's something wrong with my disc.

06-23-2008, 12:49 AM	#11
rubberghost Expert Member Member since:May 2008 Location:the sub-matrix Blu-ray reviews:4	i've seen this on VHS, DVD, HD DVD, and BD. yeh yeh same encode, ok.

06-23-2008, 12:45 AM	#15
M Special Member Member since:May 2008 Trading Score:1	I'm getting the idea that maybe some settings are adjusted wrongly or something is up, if they are the exact same encode, then nothing should be different as far as the movie is concerned.

06-23-2008, 12:47 AM	#16
Xorp Senior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Trading Score:28	rubberghost, it's absolutely amazing how wrong you are. Both the Blu-ray and HD DVD releases have the exact same video encodes. That's how Warner does their discs. Stop talking before you say something else as stupid.

06-23-2008, 05:09 PM	#19
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	I have seen both the HD DVD and the Blu Ray, and they both look pretty much the same, and they both are LEAPS ABOVE the Standard DVD version I have (From the Kubrick Collection)

06-23-2008, 01:49 AM	#20
rubberghost Expert Member Member since:May 2008 Location:the sub-matrix Blu-ray reviews:4	i'm ordering a new disc monday.

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