Spider-Man 4 Villains? - Blu-ray Forum

Blu-Curry · 08-25-2008, 03:23 PM

(Never found a thread, but this deserves one) So, Spider-Man 4 was pushed back from summer 2010 to summer 2011 (with villains limited to 2, thank god!). Who do you want to see? (Remember, Sony is making up to Spidey 6). They can still fix this franchise... hopefully.

I think each film should start to get a little darker, starting with Vulture and Electro for Spider-Man 4, with Connors obsessed over his work with lizards (and the piece of the symbiote) too much that he can't help Parker out. Sir Ben Kingsley was even interviewed for the Vulture role before he was replaced by Venom in the last one. (and let's face it, Kingsley isn't getting any younger lol)

Spider-Man 5 should then have the Lizard and someone else, like Kraven (with the Lizard destroying his own lab so the symbiote escapes).

Lastly, I think Spider-Man 6 should then end with Carnage and Scorpion. Ending with a symbiote powered serial killer and a villain designed only to take down Spidey would be awesome.

SS316SRV · 08-25-2008, 03:28 PM

The villian should be emo-haircuts.

Nerdkiller likes BD · 08-25-2008, 03:31 PM

I don't think they should really include The Lizard in Spidey altogether. I'm not really sure how they would pull that one off.

Blu-Curry · 08-25-2008, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

The villian should be emo-haircuts.

HAHAHA!

eChopper · 08-25-2008, 03:38 PM

Molten Man
Tarantula

dvd_mazter · 08-25-2008, 03:46 PM

I want to see the Lizard as well, it makes sense considering Connors has the symbiote. I fee; they should only do one villian and hint to the next one (possible Carnage), biggest problem with the third was too much going on.

Blu-Curry · 08-25-2008, 03:52 PM

Ya, especially the third one. The New Goblin was pretty much handled well, but the Sandman story didn't end too well. His reasoning for killing Uncle Ben was like, "So what!" for me. Venom will always be my favourite villian and I was very disappointed on how they handled him. I was also looking forward to Jameson's son crash landing the space shuttle with the symbiote on Earth.

Blu Jacket · 08-25-2008, 03:55 PM

I liked the idea I read somewhere to have Kraven and the Lizard. We've had enough Dr. Connors appearances to include him now. He could do his little experiment and become the Lizard. While Spidey tries to help/stop him, Kraven is hired to bring the Lizard in and runs into conflict with the webhead. Or Kraven could view Spidey and the Lizard as his ultimate big game prizes.

I definitely think Venom could return in some form with Doc Connors having that sample in his possession. I like the idea of it getting loose when the Lizard trashes the lab, it could lead into a 5th movie by teasing a new villain like they did in Batman Begins and Spiderman 2. I like the idea of Venom/Carnage and Scorpion together, and perhaps having them merge into one really powerful foe.

Beyond any villains though, I REALLY want to see them include the Black Cat. As long as they get the right actress.

supersix4 · 08-25-2008, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

The villian should be emo-haircuts.

and dance down streets b4 fights lol

charlie swords · 08-25-2008, 07:13 PM

Kraven the Hunter

or

Shocker

Woody · 08-25-2008, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blu-Curry

(Never found a thread, but this deserves one) So, Spider-Man 4 was pushed back from summer 2010 to summer 2011 (with villains limited to 2, thank god!). Who do you want to see? (Remember, Sony is making up to Spidey 6). They can still fix this franchise... hopefully.

I think each film should start to get a little darker, starting with Vulture and Electro for Spider-Man 4, with Connors obsessed over his work with lizards (and the piece of the symbiote) too much that he can't help Parker out. Sir Ben Kingsley was even interviewed for the Vulture role before he was replaced by Venom in the last one. (and let's face it, Kingsley isn't getting any younger lol)

Spider-Man 5 should then have the Lizard and someone else, like Kraven (with the Lizard destroying his own lab so the symbiote escapes).

Lastly, I think Spider-Man 6 should then end with Carnage and Scorpion. Ending with a symbiote powered serial killer and a villain designed only to take down Spidey would be awesome.

Not really any input on bad-guys. But how many franchises have you seen "saved" by parts 4-6??

Blu-Curry · 08-25-2008, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woody

Not really any input on bad-guys. But how many franchises have you seen "saved" by parts 4-6??

lol Terminator might be the first, this is the era i've been waiting for! Although I love the Star Wars prequel trilogy. (Yes, i even LIKE Ep.2)

JJ · 08-25-2008, 04:47 PM

Carnage + Doppleganger.

drichter33 · 08-25-2008, 05:12 PM

i too liked the cartoon series and thought it could be a bigger source of material.

i thought that was the natural choice- do the shuttle thing since they introduced him as a pilot in part 2.

As far as connors, i think they put him in each of the movies that he deserves a shot at it, and it is well known and would be great on screen. But, I dont like the actor they have been using- a little too old.

I like the concept of Sinister 6, and using Kingpin as a puppetmaster. I dont really think MCD in Daredevil matters- not enough of the mainstream public saw that film to even know about it. So, wouldnt feel like double dipping.

I dont think any of those guys, while great characters, are strong enough to carry a film- Vulture, Mysterio, Scorpion, Rhino, Electro, or Shocker. But as a group could be ridiculous and be a carry over several films.

If they would have done part 3 right, I think the whole Venom / Carnage could be the best story arc. But at this point it would feel like a re-hash or lack of ideas.

And, I read alot of the posts above alluding to the connors being in control of the symbiote and how that translates to being the lizard. They arent connected. I know someone said him freaking out and destroying the lab and let the symbiote go accidentally- that could happen.

I do like the whole Kraven coming to hunt Spiderman, and when he shows up the lizard is on the loose, very similar to cartoon and the backstory.

ngkf7 · 08-25-2008, 05:21 PM

They shouldn't be making this movie, or 5 or 6. Spiderman 3 was one of the worst large-budget movies I've ever seen. If someone gave me the Blu Ray for free I'd probably sell it on EBay (not bashing PQ/AQ - it is nice).

How long does it take Spiderman to screw in a lightbulb?
He doesn't, he likes to sit in the dark and carve his arms.

Go emo, or go home!

GORT · 08-25-2008, 09:05 PM

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Mxr5150 · 08-29-2008, 08:42 AM

Carnage!

Venom (we know he didn't die) and Spidey have to team up to beat him!

leo128128 · 08-29-2008, 01:21 PM

if they do that they'll ruin the series. They should keep your predictions (if they do come true...hopefully not *fingers crossed*) till the last film. I hear they're making 6 films so if they really want to mess up and tarnish the Spiderman series they'll keep carnage till last...as for Venom...good riddens and I hope its the end....new villains new films...i personally think Spiderman has a tiny shred of credibility left and after the fourth film...well I don't think I need to finish that sentence (*crash*bang*)!!!!

Blu-Curry · 09-05-2008, 10:16 PM

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.co...-at-same-time/

Raimi and Tobey are back! Spidey 4 and 5 might get shot together. This source also doesn't say who the villain is, but said then when they announce the villain you'll know who the actor is.... Lizard anybody?

08-25-2008, 03:23 PM	#1
Blu-Curry Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Winnipeg, Canada 4K collection:118 Blu-ray collection:412 Digital collection:72 Blu-ray reviews:7 Trading Score:5	Spider-Man 4 Villains? (Never found a thread, but this deserves one) So, Spider-Man 4 was pushed back from summer 2010 to summer 2011 (with villains limited to 2, thank god!). Who do you want to see? (Remember, Sony is making up to Spidey 6). They can still fix this franchise... hopefully. I think each film should start to get a little darker, starting with Vulture and Electro for Spider-Man 4, with Connors obsessed over his work with lizards (and the piece of the symbiote) too much that he can't help Parker out. Sir Ben Kingsley was even interviewed for the Vulture role before he was replaced by Venom in the last one. (and let's face it, Kingsley isn't getting any younger lol) Spider-Man 5 should then have the Lizard and someone else, like Kraven (with the Lizard destroying his own lab so the symbiote escapes). Lastly, I think Spider-Man 6 should then end with Carnage and Scorpion. Ending with a symbiote powered serial killer and a villain designed only to take down Spidey would be awesome. Last edited by Blu-Curry; 08-25-2008 at 04:04 PM.

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08-25-2008, 03:28 PM	#2
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	The villian should be emo-haircuts.

08-25-2008, 03:31 PM	#3
Nerdkiller likes BD Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Wrestling in Ireland. PSNetwork: Nerdkiller316PSN Nerds beaten up: Loads 4K collection:75 Blu-ray collection:881 Trading Score:1	I don't think they should really include The Lizard in Spidey altogether. I'm not really sure how they would pull that one off.

08-25-2008, 03:38 PM	#5
eChopper Expert Member Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:21 Blu-ray reviews:74 Trading Score:2	Molten Man Tarantula

08-25-2008, 03:46 PM	#6
dvd_mazter Power Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Winnipeg, Manitoba Home Theater Gallery:9 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:740 Blu-ray reviews: 146	I want to see the Lizard as well, it makes sense considering Connors has the symbiote. I fee; they should only do one villian and hint to the next one (possible Carnage), biggest problem with the third was too much going on.

08-25-2008, 03:52 PM	#7
Blu-Curry Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Winnipeg, Canada 4K collection:118 Blu-ray collection:412 Digital collection:72 Blu-ray reviews:7 Trading Score:5	Ya, especially the third one. The New Goblin was pretty much handled well, but the Sandman story didn't end too well. His reasoning for killing Uncle Ben was like, "So what!" for me. Venom will always be my favourite villian and I was very disappointed on how they handled him. I was also looking forward to Jameson's son crash landing the space shuttle with the symbiote on Earth.

08-25-2008, 03:55 PM	#8
Blu Jacket Expert Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Ohio Blu-ray collection:44	I liked the idea I read somewhere to have Kraven and the Lizard. We've had enough Dr. Connors appearances to include him now. He could do his little experiment and become the Lizard. While Spidey tries to help/stop him, Kraven is hired to bring the Lizard in and runs into conflict with the webhead. Or Kraven could view Spidey and the Lizard as his ultimate big game prizes. I definitely think Venom could return in some form with Doc Connors having that sample in his possession. I like the idea of it getting loose when the Lizard trashes the lab, it could lead into a 5th movie by teasing a new villain like they did in Batman Begins and Spiderman 2. I like the idea of Venom/Carnage and Scorpion together, and perhaps having them merge into one really powerful foe. Beyond any villains though, I REALLY want to see them include the Black Cat. As long as they get the right actress.

08-25-2008, 07:13 PM	#10
charlie swords Active Member Member since:Feb 2008	Kraven the Hunter or Shocker

08-25-2008, 04:47 PM	#13
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08-25-2008, 05:12 PM	#14
drichter33 Expert Member Member since:Feb 2008 Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:140	i too liked the cartoon series and thought it could be a bigger source of material. i thought that was the natural choice- do the shuttle thing since they introduced him as a pilot in part 2. As far as connors, i think they put him in each of the movies that he deserves a shot at it, and it is well known and would be great on screen. But, I dont like the actor they have been using- a little too old. I like the concept of Sinister 6, and using Kingpin as a puppetmaster. I dont really think MCD in Daredevil matters- not enough of the mainstream public saw that film to even know about it. So, wouldnt feel like double dipping. I dont think any of those guys, while great characters, are strong enough to carry a film- Vulture, Mysterio, Scorpion, Rhino, Electro, or Shocker. But as a group could be ridiculous and be a carry over several films. If they would have done part 3 right, I think the whole Venom / Carnage could be the best story arc. But at this point it would feel like a re-hash or lack of ideas. And, I read alot of the posts above alluding to the connors being in control of the symbiote and how that translates to being the lizard. They arent connected. I know someone said him freaking out and destroying the lab and let the symbiote go accidentally- that could happen. I do like the whole Kraven coming to hunt Spiderman, and when he shows up the lizard is on the loose, very similar to cartoon and the backstory.

08-25-2008, 05:21 PM	#15
ngkf7 Special Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Baltimore, MD 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:161 MA collection:104 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 54	They shouldn't be making this movie, or 5 or 6. Spiderman 3 was one of the worst large-budget movies I've ever seen. If someone gave me the Blu Ray for free I'd probably sell it on EBay (not bashing PQ/AQ - it is nice). How long does it take Spiderman to screw in a lightbulb? He doesn't, he likes to sit in the dark and carve his arms. Go emo, or go home!

08-25-2008, 09:05 PM	#16
GORT Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Reducing Your Planet To A Burned Out Cinder Blu-ray collection:295	250px-Mysterio2.jpg 250px-Rhinopreview.jpg

08-29-2008, 08:42 AM	#17
Mxr5150 Special Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Indiana Blu-ray collection:74 Blu-ray reviews:10	Carnage! Venom (we know he didn't die) and Spidey have to team up to beat him!

08-29-2008, 01:21 PM	#18
leo128128 Junior Member Member since:Aug 2008	if they do that they'll ruin the series. They should keep your predictions (if they do come true...hopefully not fingers crossed) till the last film. I hear they're making 6 films so if they really want to mess up and tarnish the Spiderman series they'll keep carnage till last...as for Venom...good riddens and I hope its the end....new villains new films...i personally think Spiderman has a tiny shred of credibility left and after the fourth film...well I don't think I need to finish that sentence (crashbang*)!!!!

09-05-2008, 10:16 PM	#19
Blu-Curry Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Winnipeg, Canada 4K collection:118 Blu-ray collection:412 Digital collection:72 Blu-ray reviews:7 Trading Score:5	http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.co...-at-same-time/ Raimi and Tobey are back! Spidey 4 and 5 might get shot together. This source also doesn't say who the villain is, but said then when they announce the villain you'll know who the actor is.... Lizard anybody?

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