Panasonic 58" or Pioneer Elite 60"

[Blu Kreme]

Stuck between these two guys. Not sure the pioneer deserves the higher price tag. Something tells me that Panasonic gets more bang for the buck! Even considering the 65" from Panasonic as well.

Where is the best place to buy online for these guys? Locally is a joke. I will be paying out the arse. Thanks all for any info

[sokrman14]

Then get the Pioneer PDP6020, and not the elite. Virtually the same image, just a few less luxuries such as extra calibration options. Pioneer are much better TV's

[The Guardian]

Both companies have new models just in the process of filtering out to stores, make sure you consider this. Panasonic 65" (new model) is same price as Pioneer Elite 60" (new model), locally to me. Don't get here for a few weeks though.

[arush5268d]

Jeeez....tough one!

If it were me, money would be the deciding factor. Get a bigger Panny, or go with a smaller Kuro. Hmmm.

[The Guardian]

Well with them being the same price... Side by side you can tell the difference but once you get it home perhaps the Panny is good enough? On the other hand if you only need 60" and not 65" (smaller rooms, shorter viewing distances) go for the Elite....

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by The Guardian

Well with them being the same price... Side by side you can tell the difference but once you get it home perhaps the Panny is good enough? On the other hand if you only need 60" and not 65" (smaller rooms, shorter viewing distances) go for the Elite....

I have yet to hear of a single person anywhere ever regretting going with 65" rather than 60".

[jpthomas27]

I just had the same decission to make and ultimately went with the Panasonic 58". I looked high and low on the interent and in the stores to compare features and picture quality. I finally determined that the Pioneer is indeed a little better, but definately not worth the extra money. I am a absolutely in love with it and don't regret the purchase one bit.

As far as a price... I looked forever tryign to find a great price. The probelm I found is brick and mortar stores are of course goign to charge tax, plus thier price is higher than the web on top of that, plus a delivery charge from your local electroncis store will tack on a few more dollars.

I finally went with Crutchfield.com. I got the TH-58PZ750U for $3500, no tax and free shipping. On top of that, they were offering a Panasonic 26" LCD HDTV for free with the purchase. MSRP on it is $800, most retailers had it for $600-$700. I sold it cheap for $500 and put that towards my purchase. So ultimately I got my new 58" Panasonic plasma for an even $3000 delivered. You can't beat that price anywhere, and the money I saved by going with the Panasonic instead of the Pioneer was huge!!! This was a while ago so if you can still find this model, it probably even cheaper at this point since new models are about to hit the market.

Not sure if Crutchfield has anythign like that going on now, but another place I was looking was Amazon.com. The third party sellers have pretty good prices sometimes and Amazon has buyer protection so you shouldn't have to worry about the sellers ripping you off or anything.

[werewuf]

The Pioneer has a better picture by a mile, gets the best reviews and are considered absolutely the best TV's on the planet right now. The Elite has a better warranty than the standard Pio and has better picture processing. Do you want the best or save money and always wonder that you missed out on something?

[TENSE]

Originally Posted by werewuf

The Pioneer has a better picture by a mile, gets the best reviews and are considered absolutely the best TV's on the planet right now. The Elite has a better warranty than the standard Pio and has better picture processing. Do you want the best or save money and always wonder that you missed out on something?

why dont pioneer elite tv's have 120hz feature?

[werewuf]

Originally Posted by TENSE

why dont pioneer elite tv's have 120hz feature?

120HZ is motion control for LCD TV's. LCD has an unusual disadvantage in that it takes longer to change from light to dark (or from dark to light) or from one color to another compared with the other kinds of displays. This is sometimes seen as additional motion blur.
Pioneer Plasma TV's uses what they call Advanced PureCinema with 3:3 Pulldown (72Hz) instead.

[Entertainment72]

Originally Posted by werewuf

120HZ is motion control for LCD TV's. LCD has an unusual disadvantage in that it takes longer to change from light to dark (or from dark to light) or from one color to another compared with the other kinds of displays. This is sometimes seen as additional motion blur.
Pioneer Plasma TV's uses what they call Advanced PureCinema with 3:3 Pulldown (72Hz) instead.

That's incorrect, my TV is not LCD and it has 120.

[al210]

Originally Posted by jpthomas27

I finally went with Crutchfield.com. I got the TH-58PZ750U for $3500, no tax and free shipping. On top of that, they were offering a Panasonic 26" LCD HDTV for free with the purchase. MSRP on it is $800, most retailers had it for $600-$700. I sold it cheap for $500 and put that towards my purchase. So ultimately I got my new 58" Panasonic plasma for an even $3000 delivered. You can't beat that price anywhere, and the money I saved by going with the Panasonic instead of the Pioneer was huge!!!

You could have purchased the next gen Panasonic 58PZ800U from Cleveland Plasma for 3,350.00 shipped. I think the $350 addtional for next gen plasma is worth it. The 800 & 850U are getting some great praise!