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robertthunder · 01-09-2009, 06:13 PM

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/the-jo...nl&attr=090109

I think Roven is out of line saying this. Yet he is a producer and they love some money!!
mightymick in the coments had it right

jono_0101 · 01-09-2009, 07:03 PM

i think the writer of that story used just a little bit of creative twisting to make that quote say "joker to return for batman 3?" he wasnt saying they were going to bring the joker back for sure, and if they were, how big a part to a third film he would even have. but at this point in the creative process, im sure they dont want to rule anything out, the writer was just trying to grab web hits in my opinion.

fighthefutureofhd · 01-09-2009, 07:36 PM

roven is out of line saying what? i don't see the offense here.

thedarkangel1975 · 01-09-2009, 07:47 PM

I heard they have so many extra footage shots of the Joker, they can use that for the third film if they wish.

tilapiah6 · 01-09-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by thedarkangel1975

I heard they have so many extra footage shots of the Joker, they can use that for the third film if they wish.

Where did you hear that?

thedarkangel1975 · 01-09-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tilapiah6

Where did you hear that?

Jusrt rumours really

nick1091 · 01-09-2009, 07:50 PM

Yeah, I don't see anything from the comments that was either out of line or in any way implied that Joker would be back in the next Batman.

dvd_mazter · 01-09-2009, 07:53 PM

The Joker appearance should only be a cameo if anything and should be a combination maybe old and un-used footage of Heath Ledger with CGI or double or something. Personally, I would rather just leave Joker as is, in arkham and have his story be competle in Nolan's universe.

Blu-Benny · 01-09-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thedarkangel1975

I heard they have so many extra footage shots of the Joker, they can use that for the third film if they wish.

that's not what has been said before. nolan has said he has no extra scenes left out of the original movie making the theatrical cut the actual director's cut.

tntkain · 01-09-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by thedarkangel1975

I heard they have so many extra footage shots of the Joker, they can use that for the third film if they wish.

I heard that too, but I don't remeber where. I think it was right when Ledger died and I read it somewhere

scweb13 · 01-09-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

roven is out of line saying what? i don't see the offense here.

Yeah, me neither.

DigitalfreakNYC · 01-09-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jono_0101

i think the writer of that story used just a little bit of creative twisting to make that quote say "joker to return for batman 3?" he wasnt saying they were going to bring the joker back for sure, and if they were, how big a part to a third film he would even have. but at this point in the creative process, im sure they dont want to rule anything out, the writer was just trying to grab web hits in my opinion.

Completely agree. Hey, they switched actors (for the worse) from the first to the second...why not do it again from the 2nd to the 3rd.

thedarkangel1975 · 01-09-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DigitalfreakNYC

Completely agree. Hey, they switched actors (for the worse) from the first to the second...why not do it again from the 2nd to the 3rd.

Which actor? Maggie is way better than Katie Holmes. She is tops on the worst actresses list.

Tyrant2049 · 01-09-2009, 10:26 PM

Who ever attempts to replace Heath as the Joker would commit Career suicide. Leave him in Arkam, and have Riddler or Catwoman be the villian.

I think Nolan will be bring Catwoman in the third, cause the little clue in the converstaion between Fox and Bruce. When Fox said he would be fine against Cats. IMHO.

DigitalfreakNYC · 01-09-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by thedarkangel1975

Which actor? Maggie is way better than Katie Holmes. She is tops on the worst actresses list.

Are you kidding?

As much as Katie isn't a good actress, Maggie was even MORE mis-cast.

I was at a party the other night and the conversation echoed the comments that a good friend of mine made when he watched it with me: "I really wish the Joker would stop calling her beautiful. She is NOT beautiful."

She was horribly out of place.

Clark Kent · 01-09-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DigitalfreakNYC

Are you kidding?

As much as Katie isn't a good actress, Maggie was even MORE mis-cast.

I was at a party the other night and the conversation echoed the comments that a good friend of mine made when he watched it with me: "I really wish the Joker would stop calling her beautiful. She is NOT beautiful."

She was horribly out of place.

I think most people agree on that.

kdn1221 · 01-09-2009, 11:39 PM

It doesn't matter what Roven said. He is correct in saying that the character should be separated from the actor. Under normal circumstances, when you don't have iconic characters you can always have the same character show up in a later installment.

Having said that, however, in this case, it would not be a good idea. The only reason is that Heath Ledger did an excellent job of performing the role. That is why a lot of people can't see anyone playing the part. To bring the Joker back this soon as a central character would be difficult because there will always be the comparison to Ledger's performance and that would destroy a sequel even if the story was great and the replacement actor's performance was also great but different.

For a different movie like Heath Ledger's final movie "The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus", the producer had 3 other actor playing the role that Heath Ledger started. Why? Because the story allows for this to happen. Each of the substituting actors (Johnny Depp, Jude Law, and Colin Farrell) are playing different representation of the character started by Ledger.

Sussudio · 01-10-2009, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DigitalfreakNYC

Are you kidding?

As much as Katie isn't a good actress, Maggie was even MORE mis-cast.

I was at a party the other night and the conversation echoed the comments that a good friend of mine made when he watched it with me: "I really wish the Joker would stop calling her beautiful. She is NOT beautiful."

i kept waiting for her face to fall off. i couldn't tell if she was 30 or 60.

much preferred katie holmes. and i much prefer in the 3rd movie they move onto new villains. joker had a great run, let's leave it at that.

01-09-2009, 06:13 PM	#1
robertthunder Active Member Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Nanton, Alberta Canada Blu-ray collection:821 DVD collection:47 Blu-ray reviews:6	More Joker News http://www.totalfilm.com/news/the-jo...nl&attr=090109 I think Roven is out of line saying this. Yet he is a producer and they love some money!! mightymick in the coments had it right

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01-09-2009, 07:03 PM	#2
jono_0101 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2008 Location:St. Louis Blu-ray collection:164 Trading Score:7	i think the writer of that story used just a little bit of creative twisting to make that quote say "joker to return for batman 3?" he wasnt saying they were going to bring the joker back for sure, and if they were, how big a part to a third film he would even have. but at this point in the creative process, im sure they dont want to rule anything out, the writer was just trying to grab web hits in my opinion.

01-09-2009, 07:36 PM	#3
fighthefutureofhd Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Dry County	roven is out of line saying what? i don't see the offense here.

01-09-2009, 07:47 PM	#4
thedarkangel1975 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Pennsylvania 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:375 DVD collection:12 Digital collection:358 Blu-ray reviews: 1	I heard they have so many extra footage shots of the Joker, they can use that for the third film if they wish.

01-09-2009, 07:50 PM	#7
nick1091 Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 4K collection:111 Blu-ray collection:672	Yeah, I don't see anything from the comments that was either out of line or in any way implied that Joker would be back in the next Batman.

01-09-2009, 07:53 PM	#8
dvd_mazter Power Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Winnipeg, Manitoba Home Theater Gallery:9 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:740 Blu-ray reviews: 146	The Joker appearance should only be a cameo if anything and should be a combination maybe old and un-used footage of Heath Ledger with CGI or double or something. Personally, I would rather just leave Joker as is, in arkham and have his story be competle in Nolan's universe.

01-09-2009, 10:26 PM	#14
Tyrant2049 Member Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:54	Who ever attempts to replace Heath as the Joker would commit Career suicide. Leave him in Arkam, and have Riddler or Catwoman be the villian. I think Nolan will be bring Catwoman in the third, cause the little clue in the converstaion between Fox and Bruce. When Fox said he would be fine against Cats. IMHO.

01-09-2009, 11:39 PM	#17
kdn1221 Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray collection:499 DVD collection:673	It doesn't matter what Roven said. He is correct in saying that the character should be separated from the actor. Under normal circumstances, when you don't have iconic characters you can always have the same character show up in a later installment. Having said that, however, in this case, it would not be a good idea. The only reason is that Heath Ledger did an excellent job of performing the role. That is why a lot of people can't see anyone playing the part. To bring the Joker back this soon as a central character would be difficult because there will always be the comparison to Ledger's performance and that would destroy a sequel even if the story was great and the replacement actor's performance was also great but different. For a different movie like Heath Ledger's final movie "The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus", the producer had 3 other actor playing the role that Heath Ledger started. Why? Because the story allows for this to happen. Each of the substituting actors (Johnny Depp, Jude Law, and Colin Farrell) are playing different representation of the character started by Ledger.

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