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Old 03-06-2009, 04:31 AM   #1
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Default HC3000 can't get a picture

Well, the journey continues. Why can't it ever work or be easy the first time?

MITS HC 3000

Well, I edited my post from the original freak-out...

I get video through component. Some issues there that need fine tuning but trying to get HDMI to work.
I have a 1.3 OK cable. I checked the settings in my dvd player. There is an option for tv or monitor. That seems to be the only relevent setting. I set output to 480P to be safe.

Hmmm..

I will keep trying, if there is any hdmi troubleshooting I can do please let me know!

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It's a DVD player and not a Blu-ray player???

What model is it? I'd try a spare cable to be safe also.
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So you are not getting an image through HDMI?

As Beta mentioned, try a different (shorter) HDMI cable to start with. If it works, then your 35 ft HDMI cable is likely defective and/or cannot pass a reliable signal over that length. HDMI handshaking can be a real headache with long cable runs.
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So you are not getting an image through HDMI?

As Beta mentioned, try a different (shorter) HDMI cable to start with. If it works, then your 35 ft HDMI cable is likely defective and/or cannot pass a reliable signal over that length. HDMI handshaking can be a real headache with long cable runs.

Thanks all, I will try that, only have 1 cable right now. I will try out a shorter one and see.

I have a samsung bdp-2500 blu-ray player.

Do I need to turn one or the other on first or should it matter?

Also the player has output settings like 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p... will that matter with hdmi - will it determine the best output on its own?

I dont have a blu-ray disc handy so using a regular dvd so far to test.

A few of the settings in the projector menu are locked. I assume that is normal. Most of them are active when I have component running video.

HDMI shouldn't be that hard right? It should probably work without a lot of settings changing?!
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Thanks all, I will try that, only have 1 cable right now. I will try out a shorter one and see.
Yup-- let us know what happens.

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I have a samsung bdp-2500 blu-ray player.

Do I need to turn one or the other on first or should it matter?
Doesn't matter.

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Also the player has output settings like 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p... will that matter with hdmi - will it determine the best output on its own?
I would leave it on the maximum that you PJ can accept, and that would be either 1080i or 720p (which are essentially equal). Or you can leave it set to "auto".

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A few of the settings in the projector menu are locked. I assume that is normal. Most of them are active when I have component running video.
I presume so. There are certainly some things that you can adjust with component outputs that are not an option with HDMI video output.

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HDMI shouldn't be that hard right? It should probably work without a lot of settings changing?!
You would think so, but HDCP handshaking can be a major headache, and HDMI is not robust over long runs whereas analog is. That's why a lot of custom installers still prefer component cables. The problem is that most players will not output a 1080p signal via component.
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Yup-- let us know what happens.



Doesn't matter.



I would leave it on the maximum that you PJ can accept, and that would be either 1080i or 720p (which are essentially equal). Or you can leave it set to "auto".



I presume so. There are certainly some things that you can adjust with component outputs that are not an option with HDMI video output.



You would think so, but HDCP handshaking can be a major headache, and HDMI is not robust over long runs whereas analog is. That's why a lot of custom installers still prefer component cables. The problem is that most players will not output a 1080p signal via component.


Thanks again..

I had a friend help me hang the screen today... I definitely went a little bigger than I should have, but I think it's going to work. There is about 1 foot on each side where I can put my fronts and the center is going to be about 1.5 feet off the ground just under the screen... may or may not be ideal but I'm pretty sure it is going to sound the same as it did before, might have to angle the center up a tiny bit and toe in the fronts to the center but might even sound better than what I had before who knows.

Got the projector mount mostly mounted and seems to be centered. Running cables should not be a big problem.

I was debating running the HDMI at all. About to say the hell with it and just go with component and forget about it. I did secure a smaller cable. I actually bought that and a DVI to HDMI cable because I have and lcd monitor and I just wanted to verify that the blu-ray was indeed outputting signal over hdmi... and it was.

So now I just have to try the projector out with the shorter HDMI cable.. which.. if it does works.. does not really help me.. I guess that would say I would have to find some higher end cable to run 35 feet. The 32 foot cable I bought says it's 1.3 compliant and high speed.

If it doesn't work with the short cable.. who knows, maybe I got a bum deal on the used projector (which seems unlikely that the HDMI would mysteriously not work) but if I can get 720P over component and have this projector last me 2 years I'll be the happiest man on earth.

Can't wait to watch something - hopefully by tmr night it will be ready to roll.
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